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Tiger said:
At least one of those who voted LG is black, and therefore all bets are off about what abilities they may have.

I have one defensive active and one offensive active. Neither of which are for voting, sadly. Would be strong in this game.
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Yes, definitely. But I know for sure which one of them has an other type of ability, other than tracking.

Why do you keep defending yourself, I didn't even sus you yet :dank
 
Tiger said:
My bad pile is looking like:

Maerala
Cypher
Sigismund
Ishmael
Melodie
WPK (for not deigning to show up, proving his agitators right)
Kue
John Wayne

I wouldn't hesitate to start shooting.
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what r ur thoughts on cooler and why r u excluding him from the pile

i do sux at reading him thats for sure

cooler and melkor r the hardest ppl to town read for sm reason

they sound fak af smtimes lol
 
Go D. Usopp said:
keep in mind when @Tiger wanted to push aizen, eventually aizen got subbed in to kue and cypher soft defended that subs are not always scum

which is ironic given that she subbed in as a scum on her last game here on valorant mafia weeks ago.

also aizen did not sub out on money mafia for sm reason when hes just as inactive lmao
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Usopp.

Replacements are NAI.

Write that on a piece of paper and glue it on the wall in front of your bed so you see it every time you wake up.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Usopp.

Replacements are NAI.

Write that on a piece of paper and glue it on the wall in front of your bed so you see it every time you wake up.
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Meh. If you tallied up all the replacements for 100 games, I think you would find more mafia replacements than town.

But that doesn't mean much here, because Kue isn't receiving suspicion based on replacing. But whom he replaced.
 
Tiger said:
Meh. If you tallied up all the replacements for 100 games, I think you would find more mafia replacements than town.

But that doesn't mean much here, because Kue isn't receiving suspicion based on replacing. But whom he replaced.
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Maybe.

But I doubt the proportion is statistically relevant and this is borderline angle shooting so screw it.

It is also widely dependant on host tbh.
 
Usopp - WPK > Genome > Cypher > Maerala > Genome
Cypher - DDL > Kvothe > Genome
Tiger - Genome
Sigisund - Genome
Ishmael - Cypher > Genome
Melodie - Genome


> Melodie voted start of D1 and never appeared at the end
> I started the wagon, bar the melodie vote iirc
> Tiger seems town judging from his gameplay on d2
> sigismund has the worst vote of this bunch, random vote at the end for no reason other other lol its LG so vote him
> Ishmael has the 2nd worst vote on LG as he moved from cypher to LG rly slick

so sigismund and ishmael definitely have to be looked at if cypher is scum

sigis could also be scum watcher and hes watching who protects DDL, be careful
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Maybe.

But I doubt the proportion is statistically relevant and this is borderline angle shooting so screw it.

It is also widely dependant on host tbh.
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I bet you'd find it to be 35-45% which is not negligible. It is really unfortunate this site needs them every game. Really unfortunate.

Go D. Usopp said:
Usopp - WPK > Genome > Cypher > Maerala > Genome
Cypher - DDL > Kvothe > Genome
Tiger - Genome
Sigisund - Genome
Ishmael - Cypher > Genome
Melodie - Genome


> Melodie voted start of D1 and never appeared at the end
> I started the wagon, bar the melodie vote iirc
> Tiger seems town judging from his gameplay on d2
> sigismund has the worst vote of this bunch, random vote at the end for no reason other other lol its LG so vote him
> Ishmael has the 2nd worst vote on LG as he moved from cypher to LG rly slick

so sigismund and ishmael definitely have to be looked at if cypher is scum

sigis could also be scum watcher and hes watching who protects DDL, be careful
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I am in agreement that Ishamael's voting pattern isn't the greatest. But I am unsure how it actually paints Cypher.

I really need Cypher to come back and explain.
 
Tiger said:
Thing is, I was trying to pressure Aizen to post and declaring there was a 50% chance he and you were scum.

Then he replaces out. So I am judging Kue with the same brush.
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It's only a 50% chance from your own perspective assuming you're Town.

For everyone else it's it's a 33% split between the three of us. And that's assuming Black Ajah is evenly split among all the Ajah's
 
John Wayne said:
It's only a 50% chance from your own perspective assuming you're Town.

For everyone else it's it's a 33% split between the three of us. And that's assuming Black Ajah is evenly split among all the Ajah's
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And from his perspective, if he IS a black sister, then my deductive logic looks damning and soundproof. Would explain why he would sub out this game and not a concurrent game where he is also inactive as per Usopp.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Usopp.

Replacements are NAI.

Write that on a piece of paper and glue it on the wall in front of your bed so you see it every time you wake up.
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maybe in ur games, but that certainly ain't in every game :kermit

also u subbed in for wad and u r town, but this is a special case sub that is NAI

however inactifag sub is like 60%~70% scum, usually done by the scummates of the inactive player
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Well JW posted more while I caught up but not a huge fan

Tiger has looked acceptable today. Might unvote.

Sigis looks bad in posts but theres the wifom of claiming watcher or something I forgot already zzzzzzz

Maerala looks pretty bad and my pro-newcomer policy was d1 only

Cooler is a shadow of his townie self
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I play with flavor firmly attached. I wouldn't have signed up for this game so close to finals had it not been a great flavor.

I heavily suspect one of Kue and John Wayne is mafia. I also suspected one of red was. Yesterday no one was interested in a Kue or John lynch, and so I turned my attention to red. I wanted one of them lynched over any other color not green.

My focus on the reds is probably what you didn't like. But it's partly flavor. Did that help, guy who hates flavor?

Go D. Usopp said:
i mean lets be real here

if it was a sub based on minimum post count, then why wasent hero subbed??

why only aizen??
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He wouldn't have been subbed unless he asked for it specifically.
 
Tiger said:
My focus on the reds is probably what you didn't like. But it's partly flavor. Did that help, guy who hates flavor?
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I don't actually hate flavor I'm just widely uninterested in it.

Mafia is already only like 30% as interesting as when I was more active at it. With flavor talk it's just a chore.

Also doesn't help with Usopp flooding every page with posts about the color spectrum and mysterious private chat stuff.
 
Speaking of ratings

Maerala rated LG's death post ningen

Nessos
Usopp
Tiger
Natalija

rated it informative

From what I've noticed scum is MUCH more likely to rate flips than town. Last two games I hosted they basically monopolized the ratings. There was a DP where all 6 scum/indies rated winner on the death of a scum and 0 townies did. It's like scum thinks they have to rate winner to prove town status.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
I don't actually hate flavor I'm just widely uninterested in it.

Mafia is already only like 30% as interesting as when I was more active at it. With flavor talk it's just a chore.

Also doesn't help with Usopp flooding every page with posts about the color spectrum and mysterious private chat stuff.
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You're going to miss completely relevant and important information if you ignore all talk of Ajahs and the color groups. It's flavor, it's not fluff.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
I need a mafia break. A long one. Wouldn't mind if I didn't play any mafia for 2-3 years. I am utterly and completely exhausted of this game.
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How are you exhausted so fast? :cursed

Dragon D. Luffy said:
From what I've noticed scum is MUCH more likely to rate flips than town. Last two games I hosted they basically monopolized the ratings. There was a DP where all 6 scum/indies rated winner on the death of a scum and 0 townies did. It's like scum thinks they have to rate winner to prove town status.
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Ok, that's nonsense. I mostly do it always.
 
Tiger said:
If I'm online waiting for a flip, I rate the flip. That's far more of a reach than Usopp talking about Kue replacing Aizen and wondering if it's indicative of alignment lol
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I'm not saying its conclusive proof but its something that happens in this forum and I'm a fool if I let it go unmentioned.

If anything scum players could use being less obvious.
 
Natalija said:
Yes. I hate flavor talk too, I skip all of it. Old fashioned reads is the way to go. And Usopp will never quit his insane player theories :catfish

I'm waiting on Cooler to respond to me.

I'm also curious about @Ishmael reads, would you provide some Ish pls?
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Lately I'm always think hes town. Even last game where I was scum I thought he was more town than others.

Which means I'm not sure.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Bro you played what, 5 games?
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7 i think :kermit

Dragon D. Luffy said:
Or Aizen asked to be replaced so he got the replacement first
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aizen is afk asfk, he didnt ask for anything, his scummates did

aizen didnt sub in the other game afterall

BUT u r right, it could just be that hero didn't wanna sub out.

HOWEVER i do not consider this angle shooting cuz its my right to have all players talk or be modkilled/subbed, and u better bet imma talk about the sub, so just dont sign up for the game if u not gna play it. All i ask is like 10 posts a phase atleast u know...

only natural sub is like the one wad made.

Dragon D. Luffy said:
I'm not saying its conclusive proof but its something that happens in this forum and I'm a fool if I let it go unmentioned.

If anything scum players could use being less obvious.
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i rate all writeup posts regardless, u know i do lol

oh and i unrated the dislikes on ur posts b4 on the ToG game lmao
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Speaking of ratings

Maerala rated LG's death post ningen

Nessos
Usopp
Tiger
Natalija

rated it informative

From what I've noticed scum is MUCH more likely to rate flips than town. Last two games I hosted they basically monopolized the ratings. There was a DP where all 6 scum/indies rated winner on the death of a scum and 0 townies did. It's like scum thinks they have to rate winner to prove town status.
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Quoting this again to say that to me, what is more telling is not the rating-- but the false positive result.

All those baddies rated it winner to try and look town.

Rating informative isn't along that deduction line. Rating it ningen, though...
 
also btw @Dragon D. Luffy

if there is indeed a difference between magic and normal actions

MAYBE magic is the actions that certain ajahs do, or perhaps only black ajah?

this is a bit to cypher's defense, but LG's ability did say this:

"During the night you can use the Power to spy on another player, learning who they target."

my ability also says "using the power"

so I'm assuming town roles use the power, while black ajah r the ones that use magic?? (not saying they can't use the power either)

that seems logical tho, unless can another town confirm that their ability has the word 'power' or 'magical' in it?
 
Go D. Usopp said:
also btw @Dragon D. Luffy

if there is indeed a difference between magic and normal actions

MAYBE magic is the actions that certain ajahs do, or perhaps only black ajah?

this is a bit to cypher's defense, but LG's ability did say this:

"During the night you can use the Power to spy on another player, learning who they target."

my ability also says "using the power"

so I'm assuming town roles use the power, while black ajah r the ones that use magic?? (not saying they can't use the power either)

that seems logical tho, unless can another town confirm that their ability has the word 'power' or 'magical' in it?
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Go D. Usopp said:
w8 nvm scratch that, my ability does not say using the power lol. it doesnt say using anything, i got it confused lol

but still there is "power" and "magic"

and u can track magic. perhaps the other trackers can track power
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Magic is "The One Power". Some players probably just physically spy on their target and others use "The One Power" to do it magically.
 
Caught up mostly, think Usopp is still suspect with how thin his suspicion is towards certain people, especially against Hero who hasn't even posted. Also was pretty leading on the LG lynch. Nataj and Maerala would both look better from Kvothe's flip as Kvothe townread them, and the former came into the thread yesterday shading Tiger for no good reason.

[Vote Lynch Go D. Usopp]

Cypher not investigating another red ajah is kinda baffling to me as either alignment, as surely as scum she/her scummates would figure that it was expected of her? From what I remember of her she is a bit contrarian, and she wasn't on board with going after her fellow reds last day phase either, so I could see it from town her.

@Tiger : Did you miss all my posts yesterday? I didn't light up the scoreboard, but I made seven posts and was around for over five hours making those posts picking through the thread.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Nataj and Maerala would both look better from Kvothe's flip as Kvothe townread them
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That's level 1 WIFOM. Anyone could see that, and that doesn't let them off the hook even a little in my list.

WolfPrinceKiba said:
@Tiger : Did you miss all my posts yesterday? I didn't light up the scoreboard, but I made seven posts and was around for over five hours making those posts picking through the thread.
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I must have. You didn't vote though, did you?
 
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