Game The Puddletown Mafia (Town victory)

[SinRaven]

Oh shit rip. Didn't even think about the minimum posting requirement here. Zzz.

Thanks for the game tho.

 

[Psyche]

Lmao Shizune, you failed to meet the posting requirements in my League game and you ended up winning it. Thanks for game anyways.

 

[Shizune]

The Puddletown Mafia killed Shiny (Tybalt Reed).

Tybalt Reed
wincon: eliminate the mafia

[Active - Concealed Handgun License] - If Tybalt is lynched, he can exact his revenge by shooting one of the players who voted for him.

Day 6 starts. You may now post.

@Mr. Waffles @Platinum @Didi ​

 

[Jeroen]

[Vote Lynch Didi]

Sucks to be you, bro.
Sucks to be you....

 

[Shiny]

this mafia just killed the worst player alive


@Shizune you forgot to mark @WolfPrinceKouga since he can post even after death



thanks for the game!

 

[Jeroen]

this mafia just killed the worst player alive

I had that same thought.

 

[Didi]

Aight so Platinum and Waffles eh?

Like I said last dayphase
I think it's very much possible Tracker is not in the game, together with
-Innocent Child
-Public(!) Lie Detect
-Cop

and now an Innocent Child after death? Nah bro
Though to be fair, I don't have much (any?) experience with Nitty's game, is he usually good at balancing or iffy?



[Vote Lynch Waffles]


I could only consider Platinum if he is a ninja (cuz of the track-result then that was called on him the previous day), and I don't think that role is strong enough at all to be the last remaining mafia player

 

[Jeroen]

Aight so Platinum and Waffles eh?

Like I said last dayphase
I think it's very much possible Tracker is not in the game, together with
-Innocent Child
-Public(!) Lie Detect
-Cop

and now an Innocent Child after death? Nah bro
Though to be fair, I don't have much (any?) experience with Nitty's game, is he usually good at balancing or iffy?



[Vote Lynch Waffles]


I could only consider Platinum if he is a ninja (cuz of the track-result then that was called on him the previous day), and I don't think that role is strong enough at all to be the last remaining mafia player

Have you ever seen that movie "I know what you did last Summer" ? :maybr

Oh... and just so you know, I targeted you last night.

 

[Didi]

Have you ever seen that movie "I know what you did last Summer" ? :maybr

Oh... and just so you know, I targeted you last night.

Well, okay, that makes it easier for me, confirms my suspicions: you've been lying and deceiving us the whole time with your tracker bs.

 

[Jeroen]

Well, okay, that makes it easier for me, confirms my suspicions: you've been lying and deceiving us the whole time with your tracker bs.

I knew you'd say this.

It's okay, bro.
You did well after the rest of your team got rekt.

 

[Didi]

No, you did well

It was really clever and bold of you to go for tracker like that, you probably figured it wouldn't be in the game and you figured right
I'm proud of how much you've grown as a player Waffles

 

[Didi]

But now you need to die you scum

 

[Jeroen]

No, you did well

It was really clever and bold of you to go for tracker like that, you probably figured it wouldn't be in the game and you figured right
I'm proud of how much you've grown as a player Waffles

Are you really thinking Plat will believe that last line ?
Like really ?
You must think he's dumber than HS.

But now you need to die you scum

You shouldn't be cutting yourself, Didi.
That's just not right.

 

[Didi]

That last line was just a setup for the catstab emote dumb waffle


This is dumb and pointless anyway. We need Plat here @Platinum

 

[Didi]

Tell me tho, how triggered did you get when RuffRuff got Liedetected immediately?

 

[Jeroen]

This is dumb and pointless anyway. We need Plat here @Platinum

I agree, but don't forget about @WolfPrinceKouga though.

Tell me tho, how triggered did you get when RuffRuff got Liedetected immediately?

Really, Didi ?
Remind me to ask you this after the game is over, clearly you're projecting.

 

[Didi]

Sure sure, nice deflection


oh yeah I had forgotten about WPK already again lol

 

[Jeroen]

Sure sure, nice deflection

oh yeah I had forgotten about WPK already again lol

You already forgot about the dead confirmed townie that can still post already ?
That's rude of you.

 

[Platinum]

Damn it. Feeling the pressure now.

Didi do you have a passive or active ability?

 

[Platinum]

Also, want to give sin and psychic the coveted WOAT mason award for lynching a townie and the getting modkilled together.

 

[Didi]

Passive, if that wasn't obvious already

 

[Jeroen]

Also, want to give sin and psychic the coveted WOAT mason award for lynching a townie and the getting modkilled together.

At least they went out like true masons.
Even in death.

 

[Platinum]

Passive, if that wasn't obvious already

Figured as much, odd we didn't have a role locker then.

Did you ever hint or someone rightly guess your role?

Just trying to figure out which one is more plausible.

 

[Didi]

Figured as much, odd we didn't have a role locker then.

Did you ever hint or someone rightly guess your role?

Just trying to figure out which one is more plausible.

No I didn't, and not that I noticed


Didn't want to hint at it whatsoever because it's not the type of role you want the mafia to know you have
sadly that didn't matter because I became sus to a lot of people causing it to become very profitable for mafia to just leave me alive cuz easy lynch target


not sure how much more I can say within the rules

 

[Jeroen]

sadly that didn't matter because I became sus to a lot of people

That tends to happen when you start the counterwagon to Darth.

 

[Didi]

That tends to happen when you start the counterwagon to Darth.

Nice strawman ignoring the context that I was the main motor to also get Darth to like 3 or 4 votes because of how adamant I was about him being the best lynch

but then Ava said incredibly scummy stuff (don't deny it, it was)


so yeah
I switched onto pressuring him


and I don't know if you noticed

but I left the phase after


Surely if I wanted to do a counterwagon to save a scumpartner I would at least put some effort into it?

 

[Platinum]

No I didn't, and not that I noticed


Didn't want to hint at it whatsoever because it's not the type of role you want the mafia to know you have
sadly that didn't matter because I became sus to a lot of people causing it to become very profitable for mafia to just leave me alive cuz easy lynch target


not sure how much more I can say within the rules

A passive, but you don't want the mafia to know about it? Sounds like bullet proof or some sort of bomb to me.

If I'm off base just call waffles a cunt.

 

[Didi]

I love waffles <3

 

[Jeroen]

Nice strawman

How is it a strawman when all I did was state a fact and the result of that fact.
A result you agreed happened in the post I responded to.

ignoring the context that I was the main motor to also get Darth to like 3 or 4 votes because of how adamant I was about him being the best lynch

You only got it to 3, after which you hopped off it to start the counterwagon.

but then Ava said incredibly scummy stuff (don't deny it, it was)

I won't deny that Ava said some dumb, scummy shit.
Just like I also won't deny that that made him an easy counterwagon for Darth.

so yeah
I switched onto pressuring him


and I don't know if you noticed

but I left the phase after

So, you wanted to pressure Ava by not being there.

Surely if I wanted to do a counterwagon to save a scumpartner I would at least put some effort into it?

Making yourself look even worse than you already did ?
What do you think I think of you ?
That you're a complete idiot ?

 

[Platinum]

Shiny looks like he was kinda a bomb, so you are probably hinting more towards the former then.

 

[Jeroen]

I love waffles <3

After posting I saw this and was all "awwwwwwwwwwwww. ".
Then I read the post above it....

 

[Didi]

Shiny looks like he was kinda a bomb, so you are probably hinting more towards the former then.

Shiny was a vengeful townie who reacts solely upon lynching, right?


I don't feel comfortable discussing this anymore because I feel like this is heavily skirting modkill territory
please stop or I'm gonna call the people who brought down weinstein

 

[Didi]

How is it a strawman when all I did was state a fact and the result of that fact.
A result you agreed happened in the post I responded to.




You only got it to 3, after which you hopped off it to start the counterwagon.



I won't deny that Ava said some dumb, scummy shit.
Just like I also won't deny that that made him an easy counterwagon for Darth.



So, you wanted to pressure Ava by not being there.


Making yourself look even worse than you already did ?
What do you think I think of you ?
That you're a complete idiot ?

apparently you do, because you propose a scenario in which I look bad for no result whatsoever



re: Ava, have you never heard of pressure votes? besides, I did actually question him for a bit (and he said nothing to help his case) then I had to leave iirc

 

[Platinum]

Shiny was a vengeful townie who reacts solely upon lynching, right?


I don't feel comfortable discussing this anymore because I feel like this is heavily skirting modkill territory
please stop or I'm gonna call the people who brought down weinstein

It is the last day and I need to figure this out. I get where you are going with this though.

@WolfPrinceKouga

Between the two, is a bomb or a tracker more likely in this format. Either it's a lot of information gathering or a lot of roles that punish the mafia for attacking or wagoning them.

 

[Jeroen]

apparently you do, because you propose a scenario in which I look bad for no result whatsoever

I'm not proposing a scanario, I'm stating a fact.
You started the Ava counterwagon.
Darth flipped mafia.
It made you look bad.

Please point out where I'm proposing things.

re: Ava, have you never heard of pressure votes?

I have heard of those, yes.

besides, I did actually question him for a bit (and he said nothing to help his case) then I had to leave iirc

Uh huh.

Lets see....

[vote change no lynch]

Just gonna observe for now, got no idea who's scum and I don't wanna mess this up.

I'll make a decision later.

Here we have Ava being dumb and scummy.

yooooo

Here we have you commenting on something WAD said about Sin.

lol
99% Ava's scum


[Vote Lynch Ava]

Here is you hopping off the Darth wagon and starting the counterwagon.

Alright guys

Let's not get personal

Or I'll have to call Law
and he'll be disgruntled at having to do actual work

This is about WAD vs Sin.

I was just responding fam. You're right that it doesn't matter, and I'm not gonna lynch you for it, but it's just my opinion, don't be offended


the only """inactive"""" I've focused on is Darth, because the last time we did that he took that pressure to actually perform and was a godly town vig. So excuuuuuuse me for trying to either get that to happen again or have him crumble under it and reveal himself as scum

This is you responding to WPK.

This is you questioning Ava.

What the fuck kind of false narrative spinning is this though?
WAD literally asked me 'which players do you also think could be inactive' and I just fucking answered
I 100% did not bring that up on my own you flimey pooftah

Again responding to WPK.

I also didn't talk about lynching them

I was 100% transparent about putting pressure on Darth to make him perform again


What the hell WPK
Is that what you do when someone calls you boring, you start making up shit about them?

WPK again.

Guess from now on I'll just ignore when people ask me questions, won't want the big bad WPK to jump on me for providing the answers smh

Oh look, WPK again.

If you listen to Raven, a loss you are cravin'

Responding to Sin.

I get mad when people call me out on shit that didn't happen that way


and I never ignore questions, so I guess we differ there
Plus I think it's very detrimental to town to perpetuate a culture like you're doing where ignoring stuff is a valid option
town should always be discussing, ideally the more town answers questions the more they seem town to other townies and the more scum answer question the higher the chance they slip up

More WPK.

@Reznor
Leaning light red on dr white but no strong read yet tbh
gotta leave for work so sorry can't go into more bye

Responding to Reznor.

So, your questioning consisted of going "" once.
Quality questioning.

 

[Didi]

I'd say that depends mostly on what role the last mafia has


I could easily see Waffles being bulletproof in this format
maybe something else too, not sure what

 

[Didi]

I'm not proposing a scanario, I'm stating a fact.
You started the Ava counterwagon.
Darth flipped mafia.
It made you look bad.

Please point out where I'm proposing things.



I have heard of those, yes.



Uh huh.

Lets see....



Here we have Ava being dumb and scummy.



Here we have you commenting on something WAD said about Sin.



Here is you hopping off the Darth wagon and starting the counterwagon.



This is about WAD vs Sin.



This is you responding to WPK.



This is you questioning Ava.



Again responding to WPK.



WPK again.



Oh look, WPK again.


Responding to Sin.



More WPK.



Responding to Reznor.

So, your questioning consisted of going "" once.
Quality questioning.

oh
apparently I did not recall correctly

well yes then
I do look bad there

I still maintain that if Darth was my teammate I would've either
a) committed to the bus
b) committed to getting a proper counterwagon

because now, in your scenario (yes it is a scenario because I'm not mafia Jeroen, stop being a semantic dickwad), I got nothing out of it except looking bad
and that's not like me at all

 

[Jeroen]

oh
apparently I did not recall correctly

I'm so shocked at this.

well yes then
I do look bad there

You already said you did on Day 2, so thanks for catching up on 4 days ago.

I still maintain that if Darth was my teammate I would've either
a) committed to the bus
b) committed to getting a proper counterwagon

Apparently, younger you disagreed with current you.

because now, in your scenario (yes it is a scenario because I'm not mafia Jeroen, stop being a semantic dickwad), I got nothing out of it except looking bad
and that's not like me at all

You are mafia though., so I'm neither being semantic, nor a dickwad.

You looked bad, yet here you are.
Guess you managed to live.

 

[Platinum]

Points for Didi:

1. vengeful townie + bomb seems more likely to me than cop + tracker.
2. Didi had multiple chances to hint and save himself, especially when he was tied for the lynch, but chose not to. He seems too competitive to just roll over and die and let the town win if he was scum and not on a heavily favored town team
3. The ideal way for a heavily outnumered scum team to win is to claim a role. If Waffles is a tracker, why didn't the mafia go after him? Just about everyone was beliving his claims, and he was whittling down candidates for lynches like Shiny, who Didi (if he is scum in this scenario) would need to win.
4. I doubt the final mafia role is immune to lie detectors, cop investigations, and tracking. So much information gathering heavily favors the town, while the pitfalls for the faction kill can be avoided by just roleblock+kill, which might have been what Shizune intended.
5. Waffles was going on that whole 'oh we suck' apathy creating schtick after DDL's lynch

Points for Waffles:
1. Has cleared confirmed town members who might have been lynch candidates.
2. A commuter, a doctor, a bomb, a vengeful townie, a townie who talks after death, and my role seems a fuck ton of ways to screw over the mafia. Was this game really designed for the mafia to just roleblock +faction kill everyone? If so, this mafia is ridiculously underpowered.
3. A bomb would only serve to hurt mafia with no vigilante in the game.
4. Didi has been suspect quite a few times.

 

[Jeroen]

3. A bomb would only serve to hurt mafia with no vigilante in the game.

Shiny's kill was only if he got lynched.

 

[Platinum]

Shiny's kill was only if he got lynched.

I wasn't talking about Shiny. Didi is clearly hinting at a bomb role himself, since he clarified Shiny's role when I asked about his.

 

[Jeroen]

I wasn't talking about Shiny. Didi is clearly hinting at a bomb role himself, since he clarified Shiny's role when I asked about his.

Oh... okay.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

It is the last day and I need to figure this out. I get where you are going with this though.

@WolfPrinceKouga

Between the two, is a bomb or a tracker more likely in this format. Either it's a lot of information gathering or a lot of roles that punish the mafia for attacking or wagoning them.

There is no way there is a bomb without a town vig. It is random punishment for a mafia with small numbers and no counter, unless the GF role is also BP solely for the bomb/vengeful killer which I really doubt.

I'd say that depends mostly on what role the last mafia has


I could easily see Waffles being bulletproof in this format
maybe something else too, not sure what

BP solely for two conditional passives, one of which is too powerful even with one on the team?


I was going to post stuff last night but realized it was better to just wait. I knew that he would turn on Waffles, just wanted to see how. The way he went about it was too calculated, instead of the surprise that Shiny was killed, then FoS at Waffles for not being killed off.

Didi as mafia needed to kill Shiny as he needed someone to mislynch. If he kills Waffles he 100% gets lynched by the cleared Shiny and Plat. A mafia Waffles would also likely kill Shiny as otherwise his mislynch would have to be on Plat, considerably harder than Didi. That would only be because Shiny was cleared by Waffles though, which he didn't need to do. Shiny was an easy mislynch that he eliminated from the pool. On the other hand he had to clear somebody though could have claimed he tracked someone like Psychic just to remove that tinfoil. Plat was also a better fake investigate choice in that slot than Shiny.

Don't think I have vote power but:

[Vote Lynch Didi]

 

[Platinum]

@WolfPrinceKouga

Are you aware of my role?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

@WolfPrinceKouga

Are you aware of my role?

I'm 99% sure of what your role is.

 

[Platinum]

I'm 99% sure of what your role is.

Seems really unlikely to have my role, in addition to Shiny's, DDL's, and Didi's claimed role, in a game this size with an underpowered mafia doesn't it?

 

[Didi]

Well it is
Blame Nitty, don't lynch me for it


I think I know your role by now btw

And WPK's argument of how I had to kill Shiny doesn't mean much if Waffles also had to kill Shiny, that means the Shiny kill is NAI. If Waffles killed me he'd be the only suspicious person left (from his mindset this is, not taking into account roles), and between Plat and Shiny, the latter was ready to vote him last phase iirc. Plus maybe he already knew Plat's role, I don't know if he alluded to it before today?

 

[Didi]

And how does Public LD + Masons + Innocent Child + Cop + Tracker seem likely to be in the game mate

what, because it's counteracted by a miller and a mafia role if the LD happens to hit that exact person?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Seems really unlikely to have my role, in addition to Shiny's, DDL's, and Didi's claimed role, in a game this size with an underpowered mafia doesn't it?

Would basically require the mafia RBer to always be on the person they FK, restricting it's usage.

@Didi : I brought up your reason for needing to not kill Waffles as Plat brought up the lack of kill on Waffles as a point against him.

If we look at things, mafia has had their FK locked down onto whittling down the confirmed. Reznor and Nevan n3, WAD n4. WAD's claim was stronger than Waffles due to Ava's cheating, only way he wasn't cleared is if mafia hit BP night 1 without having their RB on their FK target. Psychic and Sin fucked us over getting modkilled else those two being confirmed throws a major wrench in things.

If Didi is the last mafia he needed to take the risk of leaving Waffles alive for a mislynch later. Getting rid of the confirmed was his only option to not lose by PoE alone. Waffles had already tracked him once, so there was reason to believe he could make it a few nights without a track on him.

 

[Platinum]

[vote lynch Didi]

I will read through the thread again after work, but right now Didi is the greatest probability of being scum.

 

[Didi]

Platinum you fool


man fuck Psychic and Sin why did those lazy ass nerds have to throw like that smh

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

You being lynched instead of DDL would have been the best scenario if you're town Didi. He was easier to see as town.

 

[Didi]

>It's my fault for not taking the dive in a town/town lynch in which I didn't even know the other side was town as well


oooooooooooookay WPK

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

>It's my fault for not taking the dive in a town/town lynch in which I didn't even know the other side was town as well


oooooooooooookay WPK

Never said you should have took a dive, just saying.

 

[Didi]

@Platinum Come on mate are you really gonna throw the game to him after we lynched mafia in the first three phases


Yeah he's been clever with WIFOM by giving us unneeded clears on people (then again, 2 of those in the beginning were already on WAD's list as well and it wasn't like after that he could just go killing the same people he conveniently tracked cuz that would be sus as hell sooooooooo)


But come on
Public LD + Masons + Innocent Child + Cop + Tracker?
no fucking way
like I woulda believed that if the Cop was a Watcher, and then you could assume the mafia has a ninja, that would be a believable setup, but this, nah


I think a Vengeful Townie + Bomb + Commuter + BP sounds much more realistic, and I've been mulling it over I think Waffles might not just be Bulletproof but possibly also (or instead) some one-time killredirect or something like that, I think that would compliment the setting
cuz the Vengeful Townie can just as easily be harmful to town as to mafia, the Bomb can now be strategically played around with good play by the mafia, the Commuter is just a minor nuisance (plus can seem sus to the cop if invest fails) and the BP can be circumvented with their one-time superkill



Let's be real here, both settings sound kinda retarded, but what the fuck kinda mafia role do you think I am in the first scenario to make it not retarded? I'm not mafia argh

do the right thing man
believe me my brother


it'll be really embarassing if we lose this


though we'd mostly have to blame the modkills BUT STILL

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Psychic and Sin lynching me then getting modkilled. Should lose points for WPotG

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

 

[Jeroen]

possibly also (or instead) some one-time killredirect or something like that

A killredirect to redirect what kill ?
Their own ?

Yeah he's been clever with WIFOM by giving us unneeded clears on people (then again, 2 of those in the beginning were already on WAD's list as well and it wasn't like after that he could just go killing the same people he conveniently tracked cuz that would be sus as hell sooooooooo)

I had something witty to say, but that was when I read this at work like 2 hours ago.

Come on mate

do the right thing man
believe me my brother

Buddying and appealing to emotions.
Come on now.

it'll be really embarassing if we lose this

I'd say you making it this far isn't embarrassing.

 

[Shizune]

Votes are locked.​

 

[Shizune]

Vote count

Mr. Waffles - Didi
Didi. - Mr. Waffles
Platinum - Didi

Didi - 2
Mr. Waffles - 1

Didi (Valentine Sutcliffe) was lynched.

Valentine Sutcliffe

[Passive - Sutcliffe Industries] - Valentine is wealthiest man in his village. He is bulletproof and scans innocent to investigations.

The Puddletown Mafia has been eliminated. Platinum (Giles Ravenswood) and Mr. Waffles (Nash Notley) have won the game for the town.

Giles Ravenswood
wincon: eliminate the mafia

[Passive - The Ravenswood Estate] - Giles pays a personal security detail to protect him against kills.​

​

Nash Notley
wincon: eliminate the mafia

[Active - Journalist] - Nash writes incriminating stories about the aristocracy for the local newspaper. Each night he can follow another player to learn who they target.​

​

​

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Thank. God.

 

[Jeroen]

 

[Dr. White]

Good shit guys.

 

[Shiny]

Now i undestand why didi killed me

 

[Shizune]

This game was interesting because it was my first attempt at pushing the competitive angle behind a game. Normally my posting requirements are lower and I look for replacements rather than modkilling. I don't know if I didn't communicate those rules clearly enough or if they just aren't a good fit for NF, but the game was excessively impacted by modkills.

There's not much else to say because the mafia's strongest role basically meme died on day one, and then Nevan randomly pulled up with the messiah one shot on day one. Then Melodie also meme died day three. I think part of the problem was that the combination of innocent child+masons accelerated this.

My choice for MVP is @Didi, because he did a lot of work for his team and their making it to lylo was mostly his doing. Didi really persevered through the worst in this game and I appreciate that. Honorable mentions to @Nevan and WAD for townleading.

GG everyone, thanks for playing. I'm starting a manga themed mafia of similar size next week, so please consider signing up:

https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/small-role-madness-hst-mafia-3.1117242/​

 

[Nello]

This must've been a really good game because I could've sworn I saw Melodie actually trying to win this game

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I had Didi pegged from d1. So mad we got robbed of a sweep off a coinflip.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

I sort of resent the Darth and Melodie lynch being called ‘meme lynches’ just because I pushed them.

They were both perfectly valid.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Melodie especially had the tunneling and backpedaling of mafia.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Was there a mafia QT this game or just a Conversation?

 

[Darth]

My own scummate meme lynched me on day 1 so yeah...

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

My own scummate meme lynched me on day 1 so yeah...

You got Stelios'd

 

[Platinum]

Not even honorable mention .

Psychic and sinraven, you're welcome.

 

[Magic]

You can get MVP yet lose the game?

*thinks about POTG in OW*

K nvrm

 

[Platinum]

Didi wasn't angry enough with me voting for him, so I knew he was scum

 

[Platinum]

This is a pretty good player list though.

On a scale of 1-both Mason's getting modkilled, how much do you regret this quote w?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Overall this was a good player list, considering we were a coinflip away from a sweep. Melodie and Didi on mafia with one new blood and one lurker is a pretty good scumteam, just had a strong lineup of scumhunters to contend with.

 

[Platinum]

Overall this was a good player list, considering we were a coinflip away from a sweep. Melodie and Didi on mafia with one new blood and one lurker is a pretty good scumteam, just had a strong lineup of scumhunters to contend with.

Eh, I would say the lynch of ddl and you were pretty horrendous. I knew there was no way scum ddl would go out of his way to tinfoil for scum, and you getting lynched instead of Didi was derp city.

We kinda fell apart at the end... Until I heroically saved the day.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Psychic and Sin derping doesn't diminish what we accomplished. DDL got lynched on the coinflio between him and Didi.

 

[Platinum]

I know, so irritating.

But I'm proud of how the town scum hunters played. I tried to step up this game due to my role, so I could tank a kill and pressure more freely than others , and I think this was the best I've played since I came back.