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Kira Yagami said:
LG was full of shit in the end so that doesnt really clear u


Thats if the ability worked

So its either
-someone roleblocked me
-someone was protecting you from actions
-you were protecting yourself from actions
Since you claim you dont have an ability which could prevent an action then its one of the first 2
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now i remember
yeah he claimed Survivor which at that point all of towns factions have come together (trolls, Tauren, etc)

MyMind said:
Well I don't know if this is Mad's scheme to role fish or not but I role blocked him on n3. So his so called ability shouldn't have worked. If you got something that says someone else is hostile then why wait till the end of the day to reveal so when a lynch on someone else is done and dusted? Plus Kira's ability also not working on him is another point against Mad.

[Change vote lynch Mad]

I think we have more against him now then shade.
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interesting
now are u defending dr. white or shade?
 
MyMind said:
Well I don't know if this is Mad's scheme to role fish or not but I role blocked him on n3. So his so called ability shouldn't have worked. If you got something that says someone else is hostile then why wait till the end of the day to reveal so when a lynch on someone else is done and dusted? Plus Kira's ability also not working on him is another point against Mad.

[Change vote lynch Mad]

I think we have more against him now then shade.
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Mad isn't burning legion or Scourge though.
 
MAD said:
interesting
now are u defending dr. white or shade?
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Neither. I am however saying that you're pretty sus in my book.

MAD said:
also

>why would u wait for the person u have incriminating evidence on to post so u can see if their interactions lead u to their other ostensible scummates or help u townread other players they seem to be trying to go after instead of immediately forcing them on the defensive

what kind of neophyte play is this lol
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Really? And how's that gone so far?

nfcnorth said:
Mad isn't burning legion or Scourge though.
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And you know this how? All I know is that an ability failed on him and he claims to have used his ability while I blocked him.
 
MAD said:
who da fuq is xe’ra
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Illidan's number one fan. But then he kill ha and tbh that what she get

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MyMind said:
Neither. I am however saying that you're pretty sus in my book.
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likewise



Really? And how's that gone so far?
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pretty well
i am very convinced dr. white is scum and given that nobody is broaching this subject except you i think that reaffirms that his affiliates are hoping this gets buried

that said i am playing lazily otherwise and truth be told i should and could be following up on this strategem by ISO'ing and engaging players more often but the truth of the manner is my attention has been and is divided enough that i havent been able to put the focus into this mafia game as much as i would have

but ive also gone for a meta-shift, specifically on NF, where i dont attempt to scumhunt without action checks as much as i have in the past because ive honestly felt pretty dejected at how bad at ive become (which ill maintain is not entirely my fault as it becomes very hard for me to discern between malice and idiocy) so the usual Town!WAD people might be familiar with which attempts to galvanize town and lead the charge is not gonna be present anymore, at least not for a long while

from my POV i have to consider the possibility you are lying about roleblocking me, which would almost automatically allow me to draw a MyMind-Dr.White relationship

however i am considering the possibility that you did roleblock me, and it may not even be alignment indicative (you could be scum blocker or you could be town blocker) but for whatever reason the roleblock didn't take

the thing that concerns me most and makes me lean scum on you is you're not considering the infinitely different variables that could have occurred:

what if you were redirected? what if i was bus driven? what if YOU got roleblocked? what if i was unblockable? what if my ability granted me information passively?

NONE of this has seemed to occur to you, meanwhile i am still allowing Dr. White a chance to explain himself (especially since given the nature of my ability it could be as simple as him using a hostile ability on me and not specifically being anti-town) hence why i havent voted for him yet though i am 90% certain at least that the reason for this IS because he is scum

so how can you reconcile being so narrow-minded? to me that is part of what qualifies my belief of you being anti-town since it is of course in scum's best interests to not view the game in a wider scope since that makes it harder for them to push agendas and falsely incriminate others
 
Agent Washington said:
You're objectively wrong in this case.



Dark Trolls are clearly not Kaldorei



Dragomir now Kaldorei. The same thing happened to me, my faction is now listed as Kaldorei.

kthxbai
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CHRIST ALMIGHTY, you gigantic numbnut

the fact that you, specifically, turned kaldorei doesn't mean this is the case for everyone.

for fucks sake, in what language do you need me to hint that this didn't happen to me? :drake

jesus christ, no wonder everyone makes fun of nf :dead
 
MAD said:
likewise





pretty well
i am very convinced dr. white is scum and given that nobody is broaching this subject except you i think that reaffirms that his affiliates are hoping this gets buried

that said i am playing lazily otherwise and truth be told i should and could be following up on this strategem by ISO'ing and engaging players more often but the truth of the manner is my attention has been and is divided enough that i havent been able to put the focus into this mafia game as much as i would have

but ive also gone for a meta-shift, specifically on NF, where i dont attempt to scumhunt without action checks as much as i have in the past because ive honestly felt pretty dejected at how bad at ive become (which ill maintain is not entirely my fault as it becomes very hard for me to discern between malice and idiocy) so the usual Town!WAD people might be familiar with which attempts to galvanize town and lead the charge is not gonna be present anymore, at least not for a long while

from my POV i have to consider the possibility you are lying about roleblocking me, which would almost automatically allow me to draw a MyMind-Dr.White relationship

however i am considering the possibility that you did roleblock me, and it may not even be alignment indicative (you could be scum blocker or you could be town blocker) but for whatever reason the roleblock didn't take

the thing that concerns me most and makes me lean scum on you is you're not considering the infinitely different variables that could have occurred:

what if you were redirected? what if i was bus driven? what if YOU got roleblocked? what if i was unblockable? what if my ability granted me information passively?

NONE of this has seemed to occur to you, meanwhile i am still allowing Dr. White a chance to explain himself (especially since given the nature of my ability it could be as simple as him using a hostile ability on me and not specifically being anti-town) hence why i havent voted for him yet though i am 90% certain at least that the reason for this IS because he is scum

so how can you reconcile being so narrow-minded? to me that is part of what qualifies my belief of you being anti-town since it is of course in scum's best interests to not view the game in a wider scope since that makes it harder for them to push agendas and falsely incriminate others
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Let's assume that one of the many variables did happen and my role block didn't work on you. Okay so what happened with Kira? That's two abilities that didn't work you. You could have now said that me and Kira are both scummates just like you say dr. White and me are. But Kira's a confirmed town so thats not possible. I would have considered the possibility of my block somehow not working if Kira's ability did work but it didn't so now you have two abilities that somehow didn't work on you. You yourself say you don't have any passive that allows that. Now do you really blame me for suspecting you? I'm not here trying to defend dr white here who I have my own reservations. If you had said anyone else I would still be questioning you here.
 
Ok so if I had any reads before this weekend I probably forgot them. Day 3 being a walk in the park didn't help either. I need to force myself to start focusing on this again.

shade wagon feels a little too easy. First because it's shade, he is dumb like that, and he said worse stuff in the Punk Hazard game. Could see scum coasting in this wagon. But then I don't like how a bunch of new wagons started appearing in the last few pages.

Not sure what to think of Wad's claim, he has been suspish all game but I think mymind is reaching by thinking he's scum just because of it.
 
MyMind said:
Let's assume that one of the many variables did happen and my role block didn't work on you. Okay so what happened with Kira? That's two abilities that didn't work you. You could have now said that me and Kira are both scummates just like you say dr. White and me are. But Kira's a confirmed town so thats not possible. I would have considered the possibility of my block somehow not working if Kira's ability did work but it didn't so now you have two abilities that somehow didn't work on you. You yourself say you don't have any passive that allows that. Now do you really blame me for suspecting you? I'm not here trying to defend dr white here who I have my own reservations. If you had said anyone else I would still be questioning you here.
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no clue what happened with kira but like i contested with him - if i was scum, then wouldnt he have simply died?

there had to be ability interference on either the sender or receiver end because ive given my word that theres nothing in my role (like a commuter or some kind of invulnerable) that would have forced that action to be 'invalid'

you also have nfcnorth who is...pretty blantantly alluding to action checking me but you seem to want to dismiss that with this post:

MyMind said:
I'd take your word for it if you were confirmed town but you're not so...
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ok so fair enough, it could very well be the case that scum is vouching for fellow scum, unlikely, but not unheard of, however...

MyMind said:
Other than Mad I think cinera and luck are most likely scum.
Cinera cus of that stelios defense.
And luck cus she's active but has not contributed in any significant way I feel. This has no concrete evidence behind atm though.
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in your listed reads you arent marking him down as a scumread

maybe its a bit too dichotomous but unless you have reason to believe he's lying, you are being incongruous (which again, only raises suspicion further)

if u are operating on the basis that he's being truthful, his suggestion alone that i was action-checked suggests that im at the very least, not wholesale immune to being targeted (which would be absurd, really)




shade0180 said:
because I'm a kaldorei Tracker and I tracked you.

:kannasip
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what was ur flavor claim again? also did u say this earlier?
anyways im guessing ur result wasnt very productive :nonon
 
shade0180 said:
just say what you did.



Raene Wolfrunner
The Huntress
The Kaldorei
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i feel like i dont have to explain myself any further, what if youre scum and now youre rolefishing?

i specifically said that i didnt want to elucidate on the nature of my ability further because then its abusable

think about what i would choose that specific wording

if youre honest about what u say u are then u should have picked up what i put down

so no i dont feel compelled to spell it out so its easier to play around me
 
MAD said:
well i can only theorize so many ways why it wouldn’t work but none of them have to do with me so i really can’t answer definitively



yea yea tomatoes tomatos
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I am mainly saying that for timeline purposes
Kira Yagami said:
Is this ability that let you know he is town of 100% certainty?
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the answer would be alot less clear if he was another faction lets just say it that way.
 
MAD said:
no clue what happened with kira but like i contested with him - if i was scum, then wouldnt he have simply died?

there had to be ability interference on either the sender or receiver end because ive given my word that theres nothing in my role (like a commuter or some kind of invulnerable) that would have forced that action to be 'invalid'
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He didn't die because the ability failed. Again an ability interference for both me and kira? Very Unlikely.



you also have nfcnorth who is...pretty blantantly alluding to action checking me but you seem to want to dismiss that with this post:



ok so fair enough, it could very well be the case that scum is vouching for fellow scum, unlikely, but not unheard of, however...
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Yes nfcnorth does point out to action checking you but he himself has been coasting up until now iirc. That and its one action that supposedly passed against two that definitely didn't. His vouching can never be taken seriously at this point.



in your listed reads you arent marking him down as a scumread

maybe its a bit too dichotomous but unless you have reason to believe he's lying, you are being incongruous (which again, only raises suspicion further)
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In my reads I only post names of those who I'm pretty sure are scum. I didn't put Dr. White's name in there but think he's suspicious because I'm not as sure of him as my other reads. I have more reads like that for example Franky but since I'm not very sure I don't post them. Its that simple. Nothing deep.



if u are operating on the basis that he's being truthful, his suggestion alone that i was action-checked suggests that im at the very least, not wholesale immune to being targeted (which would be absurd, really)
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But again we don't know if he's being truthful so the point is null. Now we're right back at wondering why two different abilities didn't work on you.
 
List of scummy people so far:
Mexichorn

To be amended as I catch up.

I always like to start from the bottom. There’s always one or two scums in the bottom, one at the top posters and the rest in the middle.

They rely on us thinking that modkill will take care of low posters which gives them room to hide under that radar. But that’s the issue, it is dangerous for town to rely on modkills for low activity.

More to come. Alwaysmind rolled up his sleeves, fifa is over for today and the cat is quiet. I’m coming for you scums:
 
MyMind said:
He didn't die because the ability failed. Again an ability interference for both me and kira? Very Unlikely.





Yes nfcnorth does point out to action checking you but he himself has been coasting up until now iirc. That and its one action that supposedly passed against two that definitely didn't. His vouching can never be taken seriously at this point.





In my reads I only post names of those who I'm pretty sure are scum. I didn't put Dr. White's name in there but think he's suspicious because I'm not as sure of him as my other reads. I have more reads like that for example Franky but since I'm not very sure I don't post them. Its that simple. Nothing deep.





But again we don't know if he's being truthful so the point is null. Now we're right back at wondering why two different abilities didn't work on you.
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I don't find Franky to be hostile myself or at the very least chose not to be hostile last night. For an entirely different reason than Mad and not because of what I did but what he said.
 
So let me get this straight. Remchu says he died, no one belives him, then on the next dayphase he says some generic fluff about laying low, despite his possuem strategy having the opposite effect, and that Alwaysmind is guilty. Now 3 geniuses believe him despite how shady this shit looks.

Problems with this.

1) Fake claiming ur death is an objectively sus thing to do.
2) Even prior to this people have been sus of Rem for his low activity and coasting.
3) Very conveniente his investigation only gave him something of value now, one dayphase after he tried to play dead.

Im about to post the vote count then head off to bed.

Nova: Mymind
WPK: Shade
Cooler: Shade
Cinera: Shade
Luck: Shade
Dr.White: Shade
Phantom Theif: Shade
Sweet Home: Shade
Agent Washington: Shade
AlwaysMind: Shade
Mymind: Shade>Mad
Maerala: Juan
DDL: AlwaysMind
NFC: Alwaysmind
Lewd: Alwaysmind

@Franky, @MAD, @Lord Genome, @Juan, @RemChu, @shade0180 I didnt see a vote from any of u.

Shade = 9 votes
Alwaysmind = 3 votes
Juan, Mad and Mymind = 1 vote

@novaselinenever, @Mexicorn, @Dr.White and @Lord Genome only have 1 post, they will be mod killed if they doesnt post again.
 
Luck said:
So let me get this straight. Remchu says he died, no one belives him, then on the next dayphase he says some generic fluff about laying low, despite his possuem strategy having the opposite effect, and that Alwaysmind is guilty. Now 3 geniuses believe him despite how shady this shit looks.

Problems with this.

1) Fake claiming ur death is an objectively sus thing to do.
2) Even prior to this people have been sus of Rem for his low activity and coasting.
3) Very conveniente his investigation only gave him something of value now, one dayphase after he tried to play dead.

Im about to post the vote count then head off to bed.

Nova: Mymind
WPK: Shade
Cooler: Shade
Cinera: Shade
Luck: Shade
Dr.White: Shade
Phantom Theif: Shade
Sweet Home: Shade
Agent Washington: Shade
AlwaysMind: Shade
Mymind: Shade>Mad
Maerala: Juan
DDL: AlwaysMind
NFC: Alwaysmind
Lewd: Alwaysmind

@Franky, @MAD, @Lord Genome, @Juan, @RemChu, @shade0180 I didnt see a vote from any of u.

Shade = 9 votes
Alwaysmind = 3 votes
Juan, Mad and Mymind = 1 vote

@novaselinenever, @Mexicorn, @Dr.White and @Lord Genome only have 1 post, they will be mod killed if they doesnt post again.
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@Dr. White @Mexikorn tag didnt work the first time.
 
Luck said:
Shade = 9 votes
Alwaysmind = 3 votes
Juan, Mad and Mymind = 1 vote

@novaselinenever, @Mexicorn, @Dr.White and @Lord Genome only have 1 post, they will be mod killed if they doesnt post again.
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Have the rules been changed again? IIRC it was post only once, get roleblocked in night, post not at all, modkill. In either case, I'm not big on jumping on lynchtrains while the day is still going. Just really no point to it, they die in any case you see. If anything the lynched person has an ability taking the last person who voted for them with them which is just bad. That being said I just woke up and will now try to make heads or tails of day 3 chat.

Alwaysmind said:
As a historian I am the one who gets to call what has and has not been exaggerated. You wanna challenge my school of history, her your own degrees like I did.
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You're a historian? So is Mr. BlackLeg. What a coincidence, seems a lot of historians are actually into nerd forums about fantasy ninja. Anyways, what's your field of study/specialisation.
 
Mexikorn said:
Have the rules been changed again? IIRC it was post only once, get roleblocked in night, post not at all, modkill. In either case, I'm not big on jumping on lynchtrains while the day is still going. Just really no point to it, they die in any case you see. If anything the lynched person has an ability taking the last person who voted for them with them which is just bad. That being said I just woke up and will now try to make heads or tails of day 3 chat.



You're a historian? So is Mr. BlackLeg. What a coincidence, seems a lot of historians are actually into nerd forums about fantasy ninja. Anyways, what's your field of study/specialisation.
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I must find this Mr.Blackleg of yours.
 
Alwaysmind said:
I must find this Mr.Blackleg of yours.
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https://www.narutoforums.org/members/mr-black-leg.236180/
He's still studying in first or second semester technically but from my convo with him he seems quite enthusiastic about it so I'm sure he will become one in due time. I'm considering becoming one myself, hence the interest, but the prospect of not finding a job afterwards and being just as clueless about life as before scares me a little. In any case, let's not derail, let's continue this discussion in PM if you like to talk. Just don't try to trick me into talking about the game in PM.
:ufdup
 
Mexikorn said:
https://www.narutoforums.org/members/mr-black-leg.236180/
He's still studying in first or second semester technically but from my convo with him he seems quite enthusiastic about it so I'm sure he will become one in due time. I'm considering becoming one myself, hence the interest, but the prospect of not finding a job afterwards and being just as clueless about life as before scares me a little. In any case, let's not derail, let's continue this discussion in PM if you like to talk. Just don't try to trick me into talking about the game in PM.
:ufdup
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Huzzah and onward.

What I find interesting is that sudden counterwsgon. We should investigate.
 
Luck said:
So let me get this straight. Remchu says he died, no one belives him, then on the next dayphase he says some generic fluff about laying low, despite his possuem strategy having the opposite effect, and that Alwaysmind is guilty. Now 3 geniuses believe him despite how shady this shit looks.

Problems with this.

1) Fake claiming ur death is an objectively sus thing to do.
2) Even prior to this people have been sus of Rem for his low activity and coasting.
3) Very conveniente his investigation only gave him something of value now, one dayphase after he tried to play dead.

Im about to post the vote count then head off to bed.

Nova: Mymind
WPK: Shade
Cooler: Shade
Cinera: Shade
Luck: Shade
Dr.White: Shade
Phantom Theif: Shade
Sweet Home: Shade
Agent Washington: Shade
AlwaysMind: Shade
Mymind: Shade>Mad
Maerala: Juan
DDL: AlwaysMind
NFC: Alwaysmind
Lewd: Alwaysmind

@Franky, @MAD, @Lord Genome, @Juan, @RemChu, @shade0180 I didnt see a vote from any of u.

Shade = 9 votes
Alwaysmind = 3 votes
Juan, Mad and Mymind = 1 vote

@novaselinenever, @Mexicorn, @Dr.White and @Lord Genome only have 1 post, they will be mod killed if they doesnt post again.
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I investigated Stelios too, you guys followed me on that lynch. Pay attention.
 
Alwaysmind said:
Huzzah and onward.

What I find interesting is that sudden counterwsgon. We should investigate.
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when does todays phase end? it should become night in america right now, right? so most people wouldnt come online to change their votes i think. not sure shade is going to be "unlynched" today is what im saying. his reason for being lynched is kinda weak and only attracted traction due to him easily crumbling to pressure as far as i can tell. there's probably a few mafios among his early voters is my guess.
 
RemChu said:
I investigated Stelios too, you guys followed me on that lynch. Pay attention.
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Speaking of! Lol


Mexikorn said:
when does todays phase end? it should become night in america right now, right? so most people wouldnt come online to change their votes i think. not sure shade is going to be "unlynched" today is what im saying. his reason for being lynched is kinda weak and only attracted traction due to him easily crumbling to pressure as far as i can tell. there's probably a few mafios among his early voters is my guess.
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It is night in America. It is 10:04 where I am.
 
RemChu said:
I investigated Stelios too, you guys followed me on that lynch. Pay attention.
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U voted him on D2 before anyone else did.

Luck said:
AlwaysMind: Mad
WPK: MAD>Cooler>Cooler
Nova: Remchu>Dr.White
Luck: WPK
Shade: WPK
Lewd: WPK
Mymind: MAD
DDL: Cooler
Franky: Cooler
JJCB: Unvote>Cooler
Dragomir: Cinera
Remchu: Luck>Stelios
Cooler: Lewd
Hyperion: Dr.White
Phantom Theif: Dragomir
Lord Genome: Remchu
Kira Yagami: Cooler
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Then voted for him on D3 before dipping out for the rest of the phase.
RemChu said:
[Vote Lynch Stelios] Who was in the lead at the end of yesterday?
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It might seem ur claims have merit but between this weird blue/yellow posting gimmick of urs and that strange D3 play, im conflicted about this.
 
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