Game Warcraft III: Eternity's End (mafia wins!)

[Cinera]

but a scum died as well which also allows us to retrospectively analyze the D1 posts and votes and make substantial cases based off them, plus whatever actions people used



every other player is a potential townie in the eyes of a townie on D1 unless ur in a mason group so wtf is this point





well then, bully for you i guess but the point is you should have been able to context read that this player is normally very disruptive to the town, usually by virtue of straight up claiming scum which in any other decent mafia forum earns you the noose

ive been particularly patient with this player, even assuming(correctly) that he was town in the last game we played together and i actually spared him from being D1 voted there, but we got stomped in the end partially due to his muddling of reads there

so i vowed (and Ive quoted the pertinent post) that if he did so again, i would punish him for it

and guess what
if he does it again after this game, i will CONTINUE to vote him
im genuinely depressed that this community has become a mafia laughingstock because of players like him so im gonna do my part in operant conditioning, like it or not




mr waffles flipping scum is irrespective of the point though - no one is connecting me to mr. waffles. If that was the case, then I would try to understand why someone could perceive a relationship between us in this game even though there is not, but again, that’s not why you or anyone else seems to suspect me

it’s literally: “you voted for SK who flipped town ergo ur scum”

people have BARELY expanded on how this separates me from the other ELEVEN people who also voted for SK





...no it shouldn’t have

again, this is a semi-bastard game (all Shizune games are) and the character/role he is vouching for is of dubious moral alignment

who is to say that Illidan was/is not a Traitor role

he is after all literally given the epithet THE BETRAYER



i thought that should have been able to intuit

at the time SK and luck were tied for first with 4 votes with mr. waffles right behind with 3 votes

therefore in order to ensure that their teammate has a healthy gap away from being first, positions 5-8 are likely to have 1-2 scum to ensure that SK was gonna be the lynch that day

Aah I see. I'm not fully convinced that 9 - 12 is less suspicious than 5 - 8 though. For all I know you could be covering for players in the 9 - 12 range.

I think the latter positions being more likely to have scum is a safe conclusion. ^_^

 

[Cinera]

And if I was teammates with Waffles why would I put myself in such a dangerous position to being arguing with jayjay about it? Especially when there were two lynches and jayjay was making it perfectly clear that Waffles was getting the second noose. Throwing shade onto myself is a great strategy right? Don't ever gamble man, your instincts are shit.

I don't trust any of your guys going for obvious choice in me.

This is WIFOM reasoning.

 

[Cinera]

It would make u look less suspicious if u voted for scum

I'm not sure this logic flies TBH.

 

[Cinera]

The simple answer is that Shizune, trying to do EoD as fast as possible because the phase should have ended six hours earlier, made a mistake

@Shizune would apparently own up if they made a mistake.

 

[Cinera]

The Dark Troll tribe native to Mount Hyjal

Who are these guys? They weren't listed as part of the factions?

Serial Killer(s)?

 

[Kira Yagami]

What is the Vote count?

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

People need to stop treating this like a normal mafia game because it isn't. Unless the person you're voting for is in your faction there is no wrong vote. Unless there is a hidden wincon and if there is it doesn't matter until it triggers everyone is enemies.

Who are these guys? They weren't listed as part of the factions?

Serial Killer(s)?

Wiki says they're a socially primative chaotic neutral faction that enjoys sacrifices and cannibalism. Sounds pleasant.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Vote Count

Jayjay - Mr. Waffles
WolfPriceKouga - Luck
Cinera - SupremeKage
Dragon D. Luffy - Franky
Lewd - Cooler
RemChu - Luck
SupremeKage - SupremeKage
Cooler - Dragomir
MAD - Franky > SupremeKage
Jjcb - Cooler
Novaslinenever - Mr. Waffles
Franky - Cinera
Phantom Thief - Jayjay
Mexikorn - Luck
Alwaysmind - Luck
Avito - Nova
Dragomir - Agent Washington > Mr. Waffles
Mr. Waffles - SupremeKage
Maerala - Jayjay

Luck - 4
SupremeKage - 4
Mr. Waffles- 3
Cooler - 2
Jayjay - 2
Franky - 1
Dragomir - 1
Nova - 1
Cinera - 1

Self votes

@Luck
@Legend
@Oddjutsu
@Katsuargi
@Stelios
@Kira Yagami
@Lord Genome
@MyMind
@Dr. White
@Hyperion1O1
@shade0180
@Agent Washington
@Sweet Home

There are 4.5~ hours left until in the phase.​

the initial count

[Vote lynch SK]

Its been like 16 hrs since this post, stop stalling

5th

Yes

[votelynch SupremeKage]

6th

[change vote lynch Supremakage]

7th

[vote lynch SK]


We have nothing to lose and we might learn stuff about Waffles.

8th

[vote Lynch supreme kage]

9th

99% of the time when SK is town he doesn’t defend himself and just stays on trolling. He said he’d be releasing his reads but jumps to debunk his trolling first.

Those, IMO, are better reasons to vote him.

[change vote Lynch Supremekage]

10th

I don't really have any strong convictions on this vote but a vote has to be made.

[VOTE LYNCH SupremeKage]

11th

Jayjay feels sketchy but im not too sure
I think ill just go along with the bandwagon today and see what comes out of it

[Vote Lynch SupremeKage]

12th

[vote lynch SupremeKage]

13th

[vote lynch SupremeKage]

14th (invalid vote)

SK ended up moving the vote off himself, so the actual count on him should have been 12 not 11

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

oh i see
hyperion's vote wasnt perfectly formatted so shizune either missed it or disregarded it

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Aah I see. I'm not fully convinced that 9 - 12 is less suspicious than 5 - 8 though. For all I know you could be covering for players in the 9 - 12 range.

I think the latter positions being more likely to have scum is a safe conclusion. ^_^

sure thats something anyone is free to consider but i definitely feel it would behoove mafia to be more pragmatic in pushing SK into the lead than to 'overkill' imo

im gonna ISO either Luck, Hyperion, Alwaysmind, or DDL before the day phase is over

 

[Hyperion1O1]

Who are these guys? They weren't listed as part of the factions?

Serial Killer(s)?

Third War
This section concerns content exclusive to Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos or its expansion The Frozen Throne.When Grommash Hellscream first arrived in Ashenvale Forest, he found and destroyed a dark troll settlement.[7] Later, small settlements of dark trolls were destroyed by Tyrande, Malfurion, and their army during their search for the Druids of the Talon.[8] However, the Shadowtooth clan joined the night elves, humans and orcs in their last stand against the Burning Legion during the Battle of Mount Hyjal.[6]

 

[Drago]

[Vote lynch Cinera]

 

[Magic]

Hes my second biggest scum read atm.

He bandwagoned on me, said some vague shit about the interactions in the game then bandwagoned on SK. These plays resemble his approach in DDL's cracking idea game.

I did not "bandwagon" SK. If anything I advocated for keeping him aroundl.

[Vote Lynch Luck]

 

[Karma]

I did not "bandwagon" SK. If anything I advocated for keeping him aroundl.

[Vote Lynch Luck]

Oh shit, ur right.

U actually just keept ur vote on me.

 

[Magic]

and I've read all the posts today, that wasn't too bad.

[Change Vote Lynch Stelios]

 

[Dr. White]

I think Cooler has defended himself well. I still think hyperion is the best lynch right now especially after EOD yesterday.Other posters that concern me are Franky, and Lewd who seems pretty opportunistic.

 

[Kira Yagami]

[Vote lynch Cinera]

Why?

 

[Magic]

I think Cooler has defended himself well. I still think hyperion is the best lynch right now especially after EOD yesterday.Other posters that concern me are Franky, and Lewd who seems pretty opportunistic.

You can see Hyperion is giddy about the fiction, but like other than that he seems our of the usual I see for him.

Some of his plays and the things he pointed out were weird like him pointing out that LG started the 2nd lynch which absolutely benefited all factions.

I would not be sad to see him go.

 

[Hyperion1O1]

I think Cooler has defended himself well. I still think hyperion is the best lynch right now especially after EOD yesterday.Other posters that concern me are Franky, and Lewd who seems pretty opportunistic.

You just want me dead because I've been posting too many times.

 

[Hyperion1O1]

Here, let me bring up the exact quote on why you voted for me day 1.

I'm pretty busy rn so I am gonna keep this short. I do wanna policy lynch SK, but in light of a higher scumread I have to go with the latter. Hyperion is more conversive, reactive, and opportunistic than I would like to see from him to think he is town. Especially under those layers of Wow/mechanic talk.
[vote lynch Hyperion1O1]

 

[Stelios]

and I've read all the posts today, that wasn't too bad.

[Change Vote Lynch Stelios]

Remchu you little scourge

 

[Cooler]

We're basically going to have a bunch mini lynches today it looks like - with me in the lead

 

[Juan]

hold up

it's day two, right?

 

[Cooler]

hold up

it's day two, right?

Yes...

 

[Juan]

Yes...

thank you, lynch victim.

 

[Cooler]

thank you, lynch victim.

I hope you're not far behind me entering the...

 

[Juan]

I hope you're not far behind me entering the...

if sargeras, a literal eldritch abomination, couldn't stop me, what makes you think you can?

 

[Phantom Thief]

Cooler not being very cool. Granted, I observed a similar demeanor shift when he was blasted into the Sun

 

[Stelios]

if sargeras, a literal eldritch abomination, couldn't stop me, what makes you think you can?

Xe'ra literally told you , you are the kid of light destined to bring the end to the age of the demons and you still refused to go into the light.
I sincerely doubt that you have a wincon that may satisfy anyone else but you.

 

[Cooler]

if sargeras, a literal eldritch abomination, couldn't stop me, what makes you think you can?

Didn't say anything about me, I'm part of a town faction - the Orc'ish Horde and an honor guided Tauren, I have no ability to direct kills.

You're basically confirmed town but the fact that some are quite happy to just ignore my defence, my alignment claims and coast barely justifying their votes should say something about them when I flip as exactly what I say I am. And yes there are different 'town' factions but it only works if the favour of scum to intentionally lynch any town member.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd like to save myself but I don't agree with the MAD or WPK wagon's which are closest to mine. Mad has done f-all in terms of scumhunting really, but he was the first to vote SK - and it looked like a policy lynch to me and I don't find that suspicious. I'd like to see a bit more from him.

WPK I've generally agreed with his points and the speed his wagon took off was a bit unsettling,

Lewd, made a weird post where he said I was more sus but then voted for the hot wagon at the time e.g. WPK. Odd for town to not go with their gut especially when there was plenty of heat on me already.

I pretty much dislike Stelios in every game and this is no different, coasting, opportunistic, no reads and just vague shit for why he's lynching me - refused to explain what he meant by forced and nervous.

DDL he's not posted enough but he's decided to mislynch me for the second time in two games. So a heads up I'm going to go out of my way to spite kill him next game we share.

Some like Phantom Thief I've not played with before but get a town vibe from him.

Since yesterday I no longer suss Dragomir as much with the way Waffles flipped scum - I don't think he's burning legion at least.

[Vote Lynch Lewd]

Any takers?

 

[Phantom Thief]

Tbh, I don't really disagree with Cooler about JayJay's reasoning though, even if Waffles was scum in the end. Only thing I don't really like is the "I would never get in an argument with JayJay if I was scum". Easy to argue that in retrospect when you're getting blasted for it, but at the same time his arguments have felt natural to me. Both when arguing against JayJay and when defending himself just recently.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Part 1 of 3

What do you feel about old man eggos?

I can see that angle, but I feel it's just his disgruntlement with recent behavior as a whole we let slide.

I will add that nova voting first before asking questions is unusual to me.

No real reason for DW to be overly concerned with Waffles’ welfare.

So waffles starts a small talk with Sk
Nova vote for waffles for reasons
Jayjay votes waffles for interaction with SK.

Hm imo this waffles thing is a bit of a reach

Of course it is, it’s not even 7 hours into day 1. Why are you sounding like Dr. White?

Was just commenting my thoughts lol why u mad

Hm imo you're full of shit

Well, I didn’t really get much from your post, you just think the Waffles vote is farfetched and presume his innocence without elaborating, in the same way DW did.

In mafia, everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

On the three main wagons so far e.g. Waffles, SK and jayjay;

jayjay: I don't really like his reasons for voting for Waffles. He admits himself they're tenuous as it's Day 1 but the logic feels very forced. Looks like he's trying to capitalise on Nova's lynch and is trying to find legit sounding reasons other than "his tone feels off". This idea that Waffles should scrutinise himself publicly is silly - it's not gone unnoticed that Dragomir is softcore buddying jayjay by repeating this same stuff.

SK: This is the easiest lynch right now because he's generally a policy lynch anyway and with his "I'm scum" admission it's an easy wagon to jump and hide on. I wasn't on the generic game but I'm guessing he pulled that shit as scum on that game? I wouldn't put it past him to try that stuff twice but I think he's probably just being a fool. I'd rather vig him than lynch him to be honest.

Waffles: I think it's maybe slightly odd for him to immediately post and complain about SK but the main reason I'd want to lynch him right now is to see how Dragomir or jayjay flips.

[Vote lynch Dragomir]

Nova and u said waffles not voting for SK right away makes his dissapointment look weak and not genuine
Imo waffles not voting for SK right off the bat doesnt make his dissapointment look weak when Waffles already threatened hed be voting SK the minute he pulls anything and he did lol
Thats all

What an unusual post. I’ve got multiple questions.

Why would Waffles’ flip indicate my alignment? He posted something suspicious, I voted for him, and I elaborated on my reasoning. As far as I can see, you’ve deliberately chosen to disregard my reasoning and instead presume that I’m trying to lynch Waffles with fallacious reasons.

Secondly, why are you defending Waffles in his place? What reason do you have to defend him? It is not your responsibility to defend him, and he has been AWOL since he became the lynch lead.

Thirdly, why would you not address the reasons we want to lynch Waffles? Saying they are weak reasons is stating the obvious. You make a scummy play, you become the best candidate for the lynch. That’s how mafia works.

Jayjay man u really are looking defensive

What would you say a scum!Waffles flip says about SK?

<snip>


I can see a tone read on Waffles indicating scum but all of these reasons don't really hold up. He forewarned SK of what would get him policy lynched, SK has done this in multiple games including some where he was legit scum and why would he vote there when it is explicitly a warning post?

<snip>

So in here so far we have:

Dr. White, shade0180, Kira Yagami, Cooler, and WPK as potential defenders of Mr. Waffles. Ockham's razor dictates that only 1 or 2 of these are scum, max.

What I find most interesting is WPK was willing to condemn me (and also spoke ill of others who voted SK) when he IN THIS VERY POST empathized with the reasoning one would have for voting for SK. So what's changed? What makes it scummy?

ill continue ISOing posts in a bit

 

[Cooler]

My final defence is about to be buried in MAD's posts...

GG all.

 

[Lord Genome]

My vote will be based on biased reads that I'll have in 30 minutes brb

 

[Juan]

you still refused to go into the light

the price was far too high, stelios.

i don't need any light, I will save the world through my own power.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

My final defence is about to be buried in MAD's posts...

GG all.

im not really sold on u atm i see u claimed orc/tauren, but did u claim ur character?

 

[Cooler]

im not really sold on u atm i see u claimed orc/tauren, but did u claim ur character?

Marn Thunderhorn.

 

[Stelios]

I pretty much dislike Stelios in every game and this is no different, coasting, opportunistic, no reads and just vague shit for why he's lynching me - refused to explain what he meant by forced and nervous.

I can accept that you dislike me and I can accept that I may come off as coasting sometimes because indeed I am absent and I live on CET. I'm posting now and it's 23:52 already. But what I can't accept is poor reasoning and parroting my statements.

You have accused me of 'accidental' vote miss which I have refuted and if that reason is not good enough for you c'est la vie.
I can take the scrutiny. As for reads I see no reason to provide any reads whatsoever at present time. You didn't even argue that there are scum on your bandwagon, didn't even sus me. Like if you are really town I would expect you to at least sus me or counter vote for me since you feel I'm insufficient and dislike me in every game or something.

But what did you do? You picked up my read , which was on your interactions that felt to me nervous and forced , and repeated these words in at least three posts mostly to complain instead of using any sentient argument. Even the read I just quoted starts with an ad hominem against me. Didn't even omgus me. I can't town read you even for fun.

 

[Hyperion1O1]

Marn Thunderhorn.

Is this claim a gambit? This character is a literal who

Here's a link:

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Marn_Thunderhorn

Its nothing except for him writing a book

Do you do something or what?

 

[Stelios]

the price was far too high, stelios.

i don't need any light, I will save the world through my own power.

That's an interesting statement.
So you admit that you work alone?

 

[Hyperion1O1]

Well I'm gonna vote Dr White anyway because its 2 days of him focusing me and that trips my sus flag

[votelynch Dr White]

 

[Juan]

That's an interesting statement.
So you admit that you work alone?

i didn't say that

 

[Kira Yagami]

@Shizune vote count please

 

[Stelios]

i didn't say that

Xe'ra literally told you , you are the kid of light destined to bring the end to the age of the demons and you still refused to go into the light.
I sincerely doubt that you have a wincon that may satisfy anyone else but you.

i don't need any light, I will save the world through my own power.

Yeah ok but am I to take this line as roleplay or as a wincon statement?

 

[Cooler]

I can accept that you dislike me and I can accept that I may come off as coasting sometimes because indeed I am absent and I live on CET. I'm posting now and it's 23:52 already. But what I can't accept is poor reasoning and parroting my statements.

You have accused me of 'accidental' vote miss which I have refuted and if that reason is not good enough for you c'est la vie.
I can take the scrutiny. As for reads I see no reason to provide any reads whatsoever at present time. You didn't even argue that there are scum on your bandwagon, didn't even sus me. Like if you are really town I would expect you to at least sus me or counter vote for me since you feel I'm insufficient and dislike me in every game or something.

But what did you do? You picked up my read , which was on your interactions that felt to me nervous and forced , and repeated these words in at least three posts mostly to complain instead of using any sentient argument. Even the read I just quoted starts with an ad hominem against me. Didn't even omgus me. I can't town read you even for fun.

So I should have OMGUS voted you?

You're full of shit, it's 11 for me as well so no time for any details unfortunately. But you didn't refute shit as you ignored my last reply...

You've written alot above but it's mostly nothing, same vague shit as before. I've basically got a wagon full of coasters and clowns.

I don't recall parroting your except once in jest BTW.

Seeing as you're baiting me.

[Vote change lynch Stelios]

Is this claim a gambit? This character is a literal who

Here's a link:

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Marn_Thunderhorn

Its nothing except for him writing a book

Do you do something or what?

I don't play or read Wow.

At this point telling you my abilities is unlikely to save me.

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

This character is a literal who

My role is a quest giver npc. I can't say I'd be surprised by a literal who.

 

[Kira Yagami]

Id really appreciate it if some of you lads voted for me

 

[Stelios]

So I should have OMGUS voted you?

You're full of shit, it's 11 for me as well so no time for any details unfortunately. But you didn't refute shit as you ignored my last reply...

You've written alot above but it's mostly nothing, same vague shit as before. I've basically got a wagon full of coasters and clowns.

I don't recall parroting your except once in jest BTW.

Seeing as you're baiting me.

[Vote change lynch Stelios]

 

[Cooler]

 

[Hyperion1O1]

I don't play or read Wow.

At this point telling you my abilities is unlikely to save me.

Just do it, it might change the others' mind (would you get in trouble for copypasting abilities in the role page)

 

[Cooler]

I can vote silence one person and humans that target me get roleblocked.

 

[Juan]

Yeah ok but am I to take this line as roleplay or as a wincon statement?

obviously roleplay

 

[Phantom Thief]

Id really appreciate it if some of you lads voted for me

 

[Juan]

Id really appreciate it if some of you lads voted for me

what's in it for me

 

[Phantom Thief]

Hmm

[Vote Lynch Dragomir]

 

[Kira Yagami]

what's in it for me

This sucks but I need to be 1 of the top 4 lynch candidates for 2 day phases in order to activate this ability and expose some scum

 

[Phantom Thief]

To believe or not to believe

 

[Shizune]

@Shizune vote count please

Wtf? Why can't you do one

 

[Kira Yagami]

To believe or not to believe

I wouldnt even be asking yall to vote me if i didnt think that making myself look sus just to get into the top 4 lynch candidates would comepletely backfire on me

Wtf? Why can't you do one

U the host

 

[Dr. White]

Here, let me bring up the exact quote on why you voted for me day 1.

THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT I AM SAYING. I AM SAYING YOUR WERE VERY CONVERSIVE BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SCUMHUNTING. ADD THAT TO MECHANICS TALK AND BEING REACTIVE, I FOUND YOUR D1 BEHAVIOR VERY STRANGE.

 

[Juan]

I wouldnt even be asking yall to vote me if i didnt think that making myself look sus just to get into the top 4 lynch candidates would comepletely backfire on me
vote cooler and I'll vote you

U the host

 

[Juan]

fuck hold on

 

[Juan]

I wouldnt even be asking yall to vote me if i didnt think that making myself look sus just to get into the top 4 lynch candidates would comepletely backfire on me

vote cooler and I'll vote u

 

[Lord Genome]

[vote Lynch remchu]

Calling it he scum

 

[Juan]

so this may be a dumb question considering I've been a member for 2 & 1/2 years, but

how do I change my goddamned name?

 

[Kira Yagami]

vote cooler and I'll vote u

[Vote Lynch Cooler]




@Legend @Katsuargi you inactives,get in here and vote me

 

[Karma]

AlwaysMind: Mad
WPK: MAD>Cooler>Cooler
Nova: Remchu>Dr.White
Luck: WPK
Shade: WPK
Lewd: WPK
Mymind: MAD
DDL: Cooler
Franky: Cooler
JJCB: Unvote>Cooler
Dragomir: Cinera
Remchu: Luck>Stelios
Cooler: Lewd
Hyperion: Dr.White
Phantom Theif: Dragomir
Lord Genome: Remchu
Kira Yagami: Cooler

Cooler = 5 Votes
WPK = 3 votes
Dr.White and MAD = 2 votes
Stelios, Cinera, Dragomir, Remchu and Lewd = 1 vote

 

[shade0180]

so this may be a dumb question considering I've been a member for 2 & 1/2 years, but

how do I change my goddamned name?

there a thread where you can request it.

you have 3 name changes as far as I recall.

 

[Karma]

AlwaysMind: Mad
WPK: MAD>Cooler>Cooler
Nova: Remchu>Dr.White
Luck: WPK
Shade: WPK
Lewd: WPK
Mymind: MAD
DDL: Cooler
Franky: Cooler
JJCB: Unvote>Cooler
Dragomir: Cinera
Remchu: Luck>Stelios
Cooler: Lewd
Hyperion: Dr.White
Phantom Theif: Dragomir
Lord Genome: Remchu
Kira Yagami: Cooler

Cooler = 5 Votes
WPK = 3 votes
Dr.White and MAD = 2 votes
Stelios, Cinera, Dragomir, Remchu and Lewd = 1 vote

I think i missed 1 Dr.White's vote on Hyperion and OddJutsu's vote on Cinera.

I feel WPK is still the best lynch option this dayphase. A human can target Cooler in the nightphase to check if hes full of shit.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Got to this way later than I should because of Favorites VIII stuff

I can see that angle, but I feel it's just his disgruntlement with recent behavior as a whole we let slide.

White suggests here we should let Waffles slide for his opening post. Not just not lynching him for it but sweeping it under the rug.

So waffles starts a small talk with Sk
Nova vote for waffles for reasons
Jayjay votes waffles for interaction with SK.

shade with his one of several summaries, downplaying nova and jayjay's reasons for voting Waffles.

Hm imo this waffles thing is a bit of a reach

Kira questioning the early Waffles read as a reach, as if that doesn't apply to nearly all early reads.

My thoughts exactly.

[Vote Lynch JayJay]

Phantom trying to turn on jayjay for trying to start up scumhunting.

So Odd is posting in another thread?

Shade continuing his useless posts commenting on known facts with a at the end but never actually posting any thoughts as to what he thinks on the matter in anyway meaningful.

You guys say lore but all I perceive this WOW lore copy paste is as insufferable fluff

Stelios would usually be more suspicious of people only talking mechanics, here he just posts annoyance at the fluff.

Nova and u said waffles not voting for SK right away makes his dissapointment look weak and not genuine
Imo waffles not voting for SK right off the bat doesnt make his dissapointment look weak when Waffles already threatened hed be voting SK the minute he pulls anything and he did lol
Thats all

Kira continuing to defend Waffles.

Reading cooler

Singles out Cooler as hard to read, all the while he hasn't made a read on anyone.

Jayjay man u really are looking defensive

Kira attempting to tilt/provoke jayjay

Many pardons, friend. We tauren are unaccustomed to discourse with other sentient races, so many millennia have we spent in near-isolation, roaming the endless plains of Central Kalimdor with only the mighty kodo and ornery plainstrider by our side. Rest assured that we are peaceable people. Which makes what I must do next all the more onerous.

I do not make the decision to strike down this person lightly, but for countless moons I have now sought the wisdom of the ancestors, aided by the luminous waters of the Pools of Vision. The voice of my dear departed great-grandmother resonates clearly within the confines of my bovine mind, revealing to me the dark intent of this individual. I trust her fully, of course. She was a powerful shaman in life. Some say she could have challenged Old Magatha for the title of Elder Crone, before the unfortunate pond-diving accident.

But how I do go on.

[vote lynch jayjay]

Votes jayjay with a bunch of flowery bullshit that doesn't amount to anything.

Cinera starts with his scummy play.

Immediately throwing shade at the newcomer.

Waffle have play with SK
SK responded to him
Someone voted for SK due to that.
Cinera is Pushing SK because he responded to Waffle.
Jayjay and Drago kind of defending SK or something.
Luck is getting voted for having the name luck

What else?

Shade with his next summary for the other newcomer in a clearly biased fashion, with the Cinera inclusion and mentioning defenses of SK but not Waffles.

I agree with this notion. Knowing ones meta shouldn’t exclude common logic. @Dragomir I start to read you as defensive of SK.

Stelios's first actual contributive post has him accusing Dragomir of defending SK, helping to push the SK wagon along while ignoring Waffles and his defenders.

I'm back.



That's all normal things I do, town or scum I'll admit, but I don't view it as a good reason to vote for me.

Same opinion I have, and share with you, of the SK lynch and him claiming scum (again) and it being a gamble. Honestly, I feel the people using that as an easy ride are looking more and more scummy, especially the newer people who wouldn't be as aware of him claiming it all the time.

While I don't like him claiming it, it is definitely inside his meta no matter his actual role, and I do agree with Jayjay claiming it better to wait for his reads to see if he actually plans on playing the game because in my experience he tends to be more town the harder he tries regardless of his scum claiming. Especially with it happening so early on I doubt it really means anything.

That being said, again, my sights are currently set on the ones jumping on the SK lynch just for something he does all the time. Seems easy way to coast through for scum.

I'll also mention that I'm a little suspicious of Cooler from the interactions between him and Jayjay, obviously because I agree with Jayjay more.

Anyway.

[Vote Lynch cinera]

For now.

Franky says he wants to focus on the ones jumping on SK then votes cinera of all people rather than any of those who have seen SK do this as both alignments.

@Dragon D. Luffy

what games have we PL’d SK on D1?

Here is mad pushing the policy lynch angle for SK.

yes
what mafia games have we >actually< policy lynched SK on Day 1

there might be like 1 game that i can’t recall but the ‘half dozen’ number seems blown way out of proportion

imo SK actually rolled scum this time and the amount of ppl defending his shitty antics is indicative of teammate defenses

WAD brings up the defenses of SK as reason he drew scum while ignoring the fact that Waffles had his own defenders.

A rather slow dp
who to vote

This post is tonally terrible.

I'm pretty busy rn so I am gonna keep this short. I do wanna policy lynch SK, but in light of a higher scumread I have to go with the latter. Hyperion is more conversive, reactive, and opportunistic than I would like to see from him to think he is town. Especially under those layers of Wow/mechanic talk.
[vote lynch Hyperion1O1]

Dr.White going off wagon late.

99% of the time when SK is town he doesn’t defend himself and just stays on trolling. He said he’d be releasing his reads but jumps to debunk his trolling first.

Those, IMO, are better reasons to vote him.

[change vote Lynch Supremekage]

This post looks good actually.

he could be a miller.

There he goes again.

[vote lynch SupremeKage]

Late vote after day was over, so technically didn't even vote.

[Change Vote Lynch Stelios]

I would say Cooler looks like the popular side wagon a scum would like to jump on. Lewd stands out for this, need to go grab that post again.

 

[Kira Yagami]

@Jjcb where that vote nibba

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

@Hyperion1O1 Make yoursel useful and tell me how likely you think Luck's claim of Rokhan is.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

@Luck : Your claim reads fairly genuine yet you seem to have this idea that a claim is almighty and I should have jumped off you for that. Not so simple as that kiddo.

I do thank you for putting the first vote on me so the cowardly scum shade and Lewd felt emboldened to jump on me.

 

[Mexikorn]

I'll start scumhunting and interpreting hints, tells or whatever tomorrow. Today I unfortunately missed the phase totally and didn't read up. You better get ready for this serious big balls badass to go on patroll tomorrow. Scum beware.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Part 1 of 3






























So in here so far we have:

Dr. White, shade0180, Kira Yagami, Cooler, and WPK as potential defenders of Mr. Waffles. Ockham's razor dictates that only 1 or 2 of these are scum, max.

What I find most interesting is WPK was willing to condemn me (and also spoke ill of others who voted SK) when he IN THIS VERY POST empathized with the reasoning one would have for voting for SK. So what's changed? What makes it scummy?

ill continue ISOing posts in a bit

I broke down the facts about Waffles ppst, that is not empathy. I am against policy lynches as a general rule.

 

[Phantom Thief]

I DID turn on JayJay. Though, not for scumhunting. Don't like that phrasing, Soneji.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I DID turn on JayJay. Though, not for scumhunting. Don't like that phrasing, Soneji.

What else can you call it? Any reads are going to be a reach in the early goings yet the conversation has to start somewhere. You chose to try and lynch one of the first two to do any hunting.

 

[Kira Yagami]

@RemChu you're scum,aint u?

 

[Juan]

@Jjcb where that vote nibba

right

[Vote Lynch Kira Yagami]

but let it be known that if cooler is ever at risk of not getting lynched I'm dumping you faster than Selena dumped the Weeknd

 

[Phantom Thief]

What else can you call it? Any reads are going to be a reach in the early goings yet the conversation has to start somewhere. You chose to try and lynch one of the first two to do any hunting.

Voting for someone on gross logic. I ain't gonna lie that I agreed a bit with what he was saying after I questioned him later in DP1, but some of his initial explanations were piss poor. The "You can't scrutinize him when you played poorly as well" doesn't even make sense unless said player recognizes or recognized they played poorly that game. Also didn't like the "If he was serious he would have voted him immediately". Legit makes no sense when Waffles added that he'd only vote SK if he said "I'm scum". He also went as far as to make a giant assumption that Waffles would be ASK for the remaining 30-40 hours of the DP to support his claim.

Also gonna have to disagree that everything early game is gonna be a reach. I simply just don't think that's true. There's plenty of widely agreed upon behavior that can be scrutinized early game that's surely better than what JayJay went for, regardless of whether he was right or wrong.

Like I said though, the first paragraph is only my initial reaction to his first few explanations.

Anyways, I'm way off topic here. My main grievance here is that you tried to make it seem like I was trying to shut down JayJay simply for scumhunting and I definitely don't like my actions being painted in such a shady light when that's not even remotely close to what was going on. His reasoning was a huge reach and honestly didn't make much sense considering the qualifier Waffles added for his potential vote on SK.

 

[Cinera]

14th (invalid vote)

Why was it invalid?