Kira Yagami
God
Damn Kaldoreis getting rekt
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Original SK voter said:Cinera - SupremeKage
SupremeKage - SupremeKage
MAD - Franky > SupremeKage
Mr. Waffles - SupremeKage
the final Tally said:Cinera - SupremeKage
Dragon D. Luffy - Franky > SupremeKage
Sweet Home - SupremeKage
Agent Washington - SupremeKage
Lord Genome - SupremeKage
Kira Yagami - SupremeKage
MAD - Franky > SupremeKage
Franky - Cinera > SupremeKage
Alwaysmind - Luck > SupremeKage
Luck - SupremeKage
Mr. Waffles - SupremeKage
You had any doubt on where my vote was?
I was the first one on Waffles, caught him slippin'![]()
less than 4-5 hour change.
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i mean SK ended up being Town and jayjay’s theory about subliminally baiting SK into his gamethrow meta turned out to be correct but i repeat that same lynch 100 out of 100 times because i am exasperated with NF’s hard troll meta so I have zero point zero patience for that shit
its curious though, again, why literally the first person who voted for him, who has a history of strictly policy/spite lynching on day 1 is being sussed out for this instead of say, the half dozen or so people that rushed/scrambled to vote SK in the last 4-5 hours of the day phase
[Change vote lynch: JJBC]
My passive claims for him to be evil, but idk if that means he’s scum.
I probably won’t post much later cuz still busy. I haven’t finished reading through the thread, so I’ll probably give my thoughts by the end of the phase or the beginning of day 2. I’m just changing my vote cuz it’ll be dumb for me to due to placing a vote on myself.
Also JJBC is illidian.
what?![]()
okay what the fuck
first time I don't wanna claim and shizune gives my role to fucking supremekage![]()
i doubt he’s Town by now but u typically want to ask the people u intend to lynch to claim so that if they are actually innocent something can be done about it
Why not ask for an investigate on him?
Why indifferently see a potential townie getting lynched? Being annoyed at trolls is understandable but outright lynching him just because seems as bad as the trolling it self if not worse imo.
You voting first for SK involved no risk for you as Mr. Waffles had already given a reason that you could use.
I've not played any games with you so I don't know what you normally do but all games are played differently depending on what you have.
Though this is not the only reason why I suspect you.
SK claimed to know illdian here
And jjbc confirms it
After it you say that you weren't rolefishing but giving him a chance to claim and see if he's innocent. Well he did claim and got confirmed but you somehow still thought that there was doubt. Baffling.
I don't see how that is relevant. WAD has different personas/status in different communities, meta can shift and context is important, someone can post in a similar manner but with different motives behind those posts.
oooooohThat reads to me that he's apologizing for his vote and read on Jayjay with a bunch of fluff along.
Aren't you the opportunistic one?
His coasting on d1 is common here tho.
It's his way of making a statement about how much he hates the players here. Or whatever bullshit he is thinking.
I still think jayjay's reasons for voting Waffles were weak but he turned out to be right, so I ended on the wrong side of that argument. People have already highlighted that they need to "look at me". Not sure what you can infer from me recognising that?
TFW you don't know who WAD and WPK is.[Vote lynch WPK]
1) Tried to lynch me for talking about game mechanics when there have been Shizune games that town lost because they took basic game mechanics at face value.
2) I role claimed to try and get a reaction out of him, he completely ignored my defense and kept his vote on me without even posting a rebuttle. This screams scum trying to get a bandwagon on an easy target and not caring about anything I put out.
3) He immediatly switched his vote to SK when he saw he wasnt getting any traction.
4) Jayjay gets into argument with Wad then Jayjay gets lynched, WPK immeadiatly comes in sus of WAD. I aint gonna defend WAD because his day 1 play was complete garbage but WPK is coming off as opportunistic scum here.
MAD and WolfPrinceKouga, respectively.TFW you don't know who WAD and WPK is.
Orz
Town lost 3 members though?but day 1 was very successful for us
This why I asked Shizune. If he made a mistake in the vote count then he'll own up to it.Maybe he was a Kaldorei and that was his secret vote.
yeah because directing cops is totally a pro-town maneuver
you are very clearly not aware of this particular player’s meta history
i had no reason to use mr. waffles’s bait, i stated in a previous game if SK claims scum again i will lynch him without hesitation - i even cited the post i claimed to do so earlier
that is generally fair but i have stayed and it has since gone uncontested that i >always< policy or spite lynch people on D1, this of course has an ulterior motive of obfuscating others’ ability to read me as its NAI, so for others, particularly those familiar with my patterns and trends to suspect me for this to read it as anti-Town is straight up bullshit
But he didn’t claim. You’re straight up misrepresenting the case here.
Not ONCE did he claim his actual character name. I don’t know how familiar you are with Warcraft lore but knowing who Illidan is in flavor isn’t exactly indicative of being a morally good character.
What's the logic behind this statement.in the interest of narrowing down the search should probably analyze positions/players 5-8 on the wagon, more likely to have 1-2 scum than positions 9-12 imo
Not really? I don't regret the SK lynch even now that I know he was Town.Being annoyed at trolls is understandable but outright lynching him just because seems as bad as the trolling it self if not worse imo.
Thanks.MAD and WolfPrinceKouga, respectively.
Not really? I don't regret the SK lynch even now that I know he was Town.
The behaviour SK did is the kind of play that would make me not accept him as a player if I was host.
I mean, Wad already said it, but knowing my character doesnt necessarily make you a good person.Told what his passive was and got an alibi from jjbc.
I, for one, eagerly await our latest round of bastard shenanigans
I expect half the town to be traps again
I was making a generalization
So no one else even looked up Illidan? I'm not sure he's someone that would qualify as "evil" but he certainly sounds like the kind of person that could very well be a miller.
From what I gathered he got branded a betrayer because he didn't tell anyone what the hell he was doing and wanted to undermine the Legion from within.
5 postsI don't really have any strong convictions on this vote but a vote has to be made.
[VOTE LYNCH SupremeKage]
3. WPKHello Zu, Soneji here.
This person has posted nothing but flavor posts such as this.
What would you say a scum!Waffles flip says about SK?
Thanks for the game summary there shade.
Do you usually equate early reaches in a mafia game as scummy behavior?
I can see a tone read on Waffles indicating scum but all of these reasons don't really hold up. He forewarned SK of what would get him policy lynched, SK has done this in multiple games including some where he was legit scum and why would he vote there when it is explicitly a warning post?
A means by which to have a pro-town indie that doesn't influence the game too strongly in town's favor and could be seen as scum because of their post restriction.
The cost of experimentation.
Trying to figure out whether it's safe to claim your scum role?
Your only take away is that it is insufferable fluff?
Noted red flag.
Why specifically him?
It is frowned upon for there to be d1 kills, so be prepared to remain bored for another 28 hours.
[Vote Lynch Luck]
Has just been following along Hyperion's coattails talking about roles/game mechanics. All three of Luck, Hyperion and Maerala look suspicious for their sole focus on mechanics/flavor but Luck stands out as the worst. Maerala I haven't seen around so might have only joined due to flavor and Hyperion at least has been working through things while Luck is just a hanger on.
First he Susses ppl voting SK claiming theyre doing it for an easy lynchSame opinion I have, and share with you, of the SK lynch and him claiming scum (again) and it being a gamble. Honestly, I feel the people using that as an easy ride are looking more and more scummy, especially the newer people who wouldn't be as aware of him claiming it all the time.
While I don't like him claiming it, it is definitely inside his meta no matter his actual role, and I do agree with Jayjay claiming it better to wait for his reads to see if he actually plans on playing the game because in my experience he tends to be more town the harder he tries regardless of his scum claiming. Especially with it happening so early on I doubt it really means anything.
That being said, again, my sights are currently set on the ones jumping on the SK lynch just for something he does all the time. Seems easy way to coast through for scum.
I'll also mention that I'm a little suspicious of Cooler from the interactions between him and Jayjay, obviously because I agree with Jayjay more.
Anyway.
[Vote Lynch cinera]
For now.
and then later votes SK himself because he was "defending himself" ???99% of the time when SK is town he doesn’t defend himself and just stays on trolling. He said he’d be releasing his reads but jumps to debunk his trolling first.
Those, IMO, are better reasons to vote him.
[change vote Lynch Supremekage]
I mean, Wad already said it, but knowing my character doesnt necessarily make you a good person.
he could have been the racist adventurer bitch who has a zealous pursuit to kill me and doesn't care about the casualties as long as she gets to gut me
or the serpent empress of the nada (or whatever they're called idk) that illidan worked undercover with who serves the literal evil god sargeras
or maybe one of my betraying demon hunter lieutenants who were looking for a chance to dethrone me and let us fail the war against sargeras just to get more power
in fact kalidax doesnt even appear in the wiki explanation of my character, so him knowing who I am is a wiiiiiild reach to claim as ((((town))))
but on the other hand illidan is fucking crazy so disregard everything I said AND GET ME OUT OF FUCKING PRISON ALREADY
Hes my second biggest scum read atm.2. Remchu,his posts are also fluff af,he hasnt really added anything on waffles/SK/Cooler situation either,is he usually this quiet?
Not a big read right now but ill be keeping eyes on him
because everybody, except like one guy I killed, thinks of me as a power-crazed bastard.you know you're town then why should knowing your character not be good?
dude I don't play WoW all I did is check the wiki/tvtropes and there's no mention of a jailer anywhere, in fact it's said illidan was in isolation and the only things near him were runes with magic to prevent me from killing myself, it's part of the reason my character is so quirky, he spent 10k years without ever interacting with somebody else.didn't it occur to you that he could be your jailer instead of all the other possibilities?
Town lost 3 members though?
Seems better than outright lynching a potential townie to me.
Actually I played with him previously in Cracking Idea. He was all over the place but still ended up as town.
That is well and good but essentially your reason for lynching him is that he's a troll. Mr. Waffles had the same reason but flipped scum so don't blame me for taking this excuse with a grain of salt.
Yes SK didn't actually claim his character name but did something even better. Told what his passive was and got an alibi from jjbc. That should have got him off the hook but you still said he was a doubt and went ahead with the lynch.
What's the logic behind this statement.
Don't know why everyone is suddenly jumping on this WPK train. He had the right idea of going after MAD for his silly pursuit of the SK lynch. Plus looking into people who didn't vote will be beneficial. Like Hyperion for example. He was active but didn't vote for anyone. In addition his post were mainly about the game's lore instead of what's actually going on this game. Pretty suspicious that.
[Vote lynch MAD]
Considering also lynching one of those people who spend all game discussing game mechanics. Mareala at least gets some pass because he seems like a legit newbie but Hyperion should know better.
This sounds like that moment when scum is furstrated their teammate was caught for reasons they don't think is fair.
"We lynched scum but we didn't earn it ok guys?"
Classic tell.
[vote lynch Cooler]
For now I feel like the obvious lynch is cooler, like I said earlier for his interactions with Jayjay on day 1. Seems suspect since Jayjay was hot on Burning Legion tail and I feel like Jayjay was making fair enough points about it. For now I'm betting Cooler was trying to throw shade off of fellow legion scum.
[Vote Lynch Cooler]
Tentatively. I'm still going over some things.
I posted on that on the belief that was a scum slip. I didn't consider the voting at all.
Don't be an idiot again it's becoming a pattern.
I'm admitting I ended up on the wrong side of history where Waffles is concerned but I still think reasons like, "Why isn't Waffles saying his own play was crap" and "Why didn't he follow up his warning with an immediate vote" were weak. Later on his stuff about baiting SK into saying something stupid made more sense.
Are you trying to bait me by being a moron?
jayjay's points were bad for the most part, I stand by it.
And if I was teammates with Waffles why would I put myself in such a dangerous position to being arguing with jayjay about it? Especially when there were two lynches and jayjay was making it perfectly clear that Waffles was getting the second noose. Throwing shade onto myself is a great strategy right? Don't ever gamble man, your instincts are shit.
I don't trust any of your guys going for obvious choice in me.
No I mean
You have half a million posts discussing warcraft
But I dont remember any of them actually playing mafia.
I'm confused. When you're referring to any, are you referring to the people here or my posts?
do not got down this road wade is after all literally given the epithet THE BETRAYER
Your posts.
nice wifomwhy would I put myself in such a dangerous position to being arguing with jayjay about it?
do not got down this road wad![]()
YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!i mean i think ur town now like almost 100% after seeing SK’s flip but before that yeah i was considering otherwise for sure![]()
AND GET ME OUT OF FUCKING PRISON ALREADY
[Passive - Written In The Stars] - You know Malfurion Stormrage's identity and you can communicate with him outside the thread if he awakens.
Malf should be able to get yo-
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ayo hold upMalf should be able to get yo-
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Wifom, Omgus, and insisting that the dead town leader was wrong
Dude are you a jester![]()
nice wifom![]()
So you Undead Scourge then? Nice to know.And you're an idiot. I have nothing to do with the burning legion.
Don't care, it's true. If I knew Waffles was going to flip scum then having a long drawn out argument with jayjay about it was a stupid af decision.
So you Undead Scourge then? Nice to know.
[Change Vote Lynch Cooler]
I mean, even if it was it doesn't make it any less wifomit's true
not really, considering that it seems there is more than one scum factionIf I knew Waffles was going to flip scum then having a long drawn out argument with jayjay about it was a stupid af decision
Nope. You have one more guess.
You responded to DDL's suspicion by claiming you're not part of one scum faction. Not "you're an idiot, I'm town" or "you're an idiot, I'm not scum-anti-town" or even "you're an idiot, I'm not mafia".Another idiot.
@WolfPrinceKouga Link me the post where u voted for waffles.@Shizune I just combed through all the pages between these vote counts, pages 17-22, where did WPK change his vote to Waffles?![]()
I never voted Waffles. I told Shizune to change the vote count as my vote never left you.AlwaysMind: Mad
WPK: MAD>Cooler>Cooler
Nova: Remchu>Dr.White
Luck: WPK
Shade: WPK
Lewd: WPK
Mymind: MAD
DDL: Cooler
Franky: Cooler
JJCB: Unvote>Cooler
Cooler = 4 Votes
WPK = 3 votes
MAD = 2 votes
Dr.Whitet = 1 vote
@WolfPrinceKouga Link me the post where u voted for waffles.
Brah I left you alone last phase largely because you're mislynch bait, I wasn't part of your wagon in Punk Hazard.The Orc'ish Horde isn't scum right?
I was an indie last phase and now my alignment has changed, but I was legitimately trying to help town. The last few games I've played my attempts to scumhunt in the first day phase have just gotten me lynched early. So honestly just fuck you all. Hope in the next game I play I'm serial killer so I can end the game early for all the clowns and their shit logic.
There are 2 scenarios here.I never voted Waffles. I told Shizune to change the vote count as my vote never left you.
So you're saying that you think it's possible I altered a vote count to make it look like my vote was on Waffles?There are 2 scenarios here.
1) Shizune messed up
2) U can fuck with write ups
Option 2 doesnt seem like a town ability to me.
It would make u look less suspicious if u voted for scumSo you're saying that you think it's possible I altered a vote count to make it look like my vote was on Waffles?![]()
Brah I left you alone last phase largely because you're mislynch bait, I wasn't part of your wagon in Punk Hazard.
I'm not voting you for scumhunting but a questionable reaction to DDL's push on you.
Cool it Cooler.
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in all seriousness you're claiming Orcish Horde. In this game from what I can tell there isn't an inherent "Town" but there is a mafia. There seem to be several town-like factions working against the Burning Legion and against factions other than themselves...
However, Burning Legion is the one with a faction kill so we should be aiming them first, and are the most traditional mafia.
It makes me look more suspicious if a vote I never made is in the vote count.It would make u look less suspicious if u voted for scum
I
not really, considering that it seems there is more than one scum faction
so
[Vote Lynch Cooler]
Thats the entire reason im trying to figure this shit outIt makes me look more suspicious if a vote I never made is in the vote count.
The simple answer is that Shizune, trying to do EoD as fast as possible because the phase should have ended six hours earlier, made a mistakeThats the entire reason im trying to figure this shit out![]()
If u r telling the truth im sure Shizune will own up to it since its not something major.The simple answer is that Shizune, trying to do EoD as fast as possible because the phase should have ended six hours earlier, made a mistake![]()
@ShizuneIf u r telling the truth im sure Shizune will own up to it since its not something major.
alright, so????That makes even less sense, that means there would no association between me and Waffles and I couldn't have knowingly defended him - which is why Franky voted me.
There's a very subtle fallacious reasoning here:Thats your opinion but it throws the game in scums' favor. They get rid of a town and blend in on the bandwagon.