Vanya
Mark Antony is Rome's 'Helen of Troy'
Have you been reading the game?Fair enough. Who do you think is Town/scum?
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Have you been reading the game?Fair enough. Who do you think is Town/scum?
Ofc. But I also just woke upHave you been reading the game?
You randed scum didnt you?Ofc. But I also just woke up. I‘m gonna read back.
Hell no.You randed scum didnt you?
Ekks lol.Who‘s your policy lynch lol?
Did you catch up yet? What do you think about the game so far?Ekks lol.
I guess I'm biased, since AG's read on me is town, but dude is one of the only others in this thread that seems to be trying to analyze posts and scumhunt, so I have AG as town for now.
Did you catch up yet? What do you think about the game so far?
You Town this game?Nah I'm just going to follow from here.
This is a horrible read
I don't necessarily agree with this sentiment completely. It would entirely depend on the contents of the list. Draekke's initial list vastly had a summary of the posts by each player, while his second list contributed much more in terms of his insights into his reads.on a seperate note I think pushing on a player for a list like draekke's is very rarely going to do anything aside from an occasional mis-lynch, and waiting for more content from Draekke in general is going to be way more fruitful. This may be a stylistic thing, but its what I normally see
Eh, Vanya, I think you can comply a little here with Draekke lol. Assuming he'll interpret your reads the wrong way before you even list them out is jumping to conclusions, don't you think?I read that you are scum trying to steer the game rather than leading it. You undermine me only to ask reads in same post. Andrew defends you and he insta town for you while completly ignoring that from our viewpoint he can be someone leeching to you or scum buddy defending you.
You Town this game?
does it not make sense to you?
its accuracy might be bad, but the logic is "my wolf reads are pushing you, so town lean"
pretty fine as far as logic in a read goes.
or are you saying incorrect reads are wolfy?
Did you at least read the last few pages? Do you have thoughts on anyone so far?Yes I am town.
I don't think so:Might go for Jojo, too, but I think that slot is Indie at max, probably even a Jester, so this makes me a bit hesitant to vote them.
I don't really view him as a jester for whatever it's worth lol. I doubt he'd be this obvious about it and have a serious conversation with Andrew at the same time trying to determine his alignment.son i didn’t vote that means i have 4
update it, i refuse to be seen as second place![]()
it really shifts the game to encouarge consolidating on one wagon EOD, and town would ideally punish players that avoid the EOD wagon with kill power.
idk the lynch thing is complicated in a really complicated game. Prob just mafia sided since town would really need to organize to punish anything mafia did to take advantage of it.
Let‘s just be wary of Jesters. Shizune‘s Members game did a number on me there -_-.I don't think so:
I don't really view him as a jester for whatever it's worth lol. I doubt he'd be this obvious about it and have a serious conversation with Andrew at the same time trying to determine his alignment.
Lots of other ways to look intentionally scummy than to do it this way.
I actually don't understand what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?Draekke giving me "how are you doing, Fellow Townies?" vibes
Scum trying to blend inI actually don't understand what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
I can see Draekke being town here for trying his best to justify his stance, while not blatantly trying to misinterpret others either. Don't think Jojo is a jester, Owner seems townie. Liking Vanya, though I think he can be a little more cooperative here.Let‘s just be wary of Jesters. Shizune‘s Members game did a number on me there -_-.
What do you think so far, Lind? I tagged you before I went to bed lol.
There are 9 players lurking here. They're afraid to come out
Hello hello,
there are about 12.5 hours left in the day, so here's a vote count as of post #747:
Spoiler: Vote count1. @Admiral Fujitora - Flower
2. @Alibaba Saluja
3. @Alwaysmind - Flower > Fujitora
4. @AndrewGreve
5. @Atlantic Storm
6. @Cooler
7. @Draekke
8. @Dragon D. Luffy - AndrewGreve
9. @FLORIDA MAN
10. @Flower - Fujitora
11. @Hidden - AndrewGreve > Lord Genome
12. @Ishmael
13. @JoJo
14. @Karma
15. @Laix - Jojo
16. @Legend
17. @Lind
18. @Lord Genome
19. @MangoSenpai
20. @Mich
21. @nfcnorth
22. @Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Vanya
23. @Revan Reborn
24. @Rottkins
25. @Sallucion
26. @Saturday - Legend > DDL
27. @Shrike
28. @The Lukundo - Jojo
29. @TheAncientCenturion - Flower > Lind > Fujitora
30. @Traveling Swordsman
31. @Ultra - TheAncientCenturion > Flower > Laix
32. @Underworld Broker
33. @Vanya
34. @Vivo Diez
35. @~Mystic Serenade~
Leaderboard
Fujitora: 3
Jojo: 2
Remember that everyone who doesn't vote is considered to be casting two votes against themselves.
We have just few votes and 2 wagons at the middle of the day?
I certainly have to read to see why
Few thoughts about the Sod I've read yday (i fell asleep smh)
Fluff was the main focus for everyone, the few reads were (most of them) jokes and everyone posted to inflate postcount.
Unfortunately fluff is NAI in most cases, but it will be interesting to check the reads after few flips
Like there are two scum factions.
I actually don't understand what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
Did you at least read the last few pages? Do you have thoughts on anyone so far?
Nobody really jumps my eyes as scum (I'm not great at reading ppl).
Draekke is okay-ish but not that hard for scum to fake. Lukundo is more organic. Not sure about Andrew my vote is kind of a placeholder. Everybody else is mostly fluffing or didn't catch my radar so I dunno.
When are the host posts full of actions gonna start? This is Favs not vanillafia.
[vote lynch Draekke]
People should keep a close eye on DDL here. Drops in, throws a vote onto a fairly easy person that many would justify if left on me accidentally, and then claims that he "MIGHT" drop back in to change the vote later.I MIGHT come online near EoD to see if anyone tagged me with a request to change my vote and a -REASONABLE- justification for why I should do it.
I will not catch up on anything else though. Only what appears on my notitication tab.
If I have terrible reads, why is it that I'm the one that convinced you to admit that Vanya could be something more than just town? Can't be that bad of a read.Updating then going to bed
Vanya/Rome - townie/indie, as I’ve mentioned before, it would be silly for scum or anti rien to reveal themselves a few hours into the game and put a target on its back.
Karma - scum lean, mostly fluff. Posts lack consistence.
Flower - townie, I like her play. Engaged
Jojo - jester lean
dreake - I dunno, townie or indie, has had terrible read
Admiral - not town lean, that bit against Italy was not the greatest.
What are your thoughts on Vanya, if you feel that I'm trying to outwardly identify as town?He wants us to remember he identifies as a townie all the time.
Feels forced.
Read my interaction with Fuji and look at things from the pov that I‘m Town. Which I am, but if you‘re Town you can‘t know that for sure. What do you make of this, then?If I have terrible reads, why is it that I'm the one that convinced you to admit that Vanya could be something more than just town? Can't be that bad of a read.
Of any of the reactions to Vanya and his Rome Shtick, Admiral Fujitora's seemed rather genuine to me. Again, if you now admit that Vanya is potentially more than just town, how do you hold that against AF?
Reads?I am caught up, ask me anything
If Fuji has the same feeling that I do that you're not trying very hard, then I can't really fault them for that. I don't exactly have a town lean on you at this time. Your continued fluff early and your vague "gut" feeling that Vanya is town doesn't fill me with optimism about your helping town.Read my interaction with Fuji and look at things from the pov that I‘m Town. Which I am, but if you‘re Town you can‘t know that for sure. What do you make of this, then?
I see. So GTH Fuji vs me TvT or TvS?If Fuji has the same feeling that I do that you're not trying very hard, then I can't really fault them for that. I don't exactly have a town lean on you at this time. Your continued fluff early and your vague "gut" feeling that Vanya is town doesn't fill me with optimism about your helping town.
From what I've read Fuji reads you as town, just not trying hard enough and putting pressure on you.
Vanya doesn't look bad after he called out Andrew for defending Draekke.On page 7. All this Rome talk is to fulfill post count quote so they don't get lynched. Flower, Vanya, Fujitora are on my scum radar list. And possibly The Ancient too
Why all the GTH stuff? Seems very strange/particular to need to have a definitive statement one way or the other in a game where your opinion of a person can change in one post.I see. So GTH Fuji vs me TvT or TvS?
We have just few votes and 2 wagons at the middle of the day?
I certainly have to read to see why
I try getting players to give me GTH reads to see where they really stand. I don‘t want people to leave wiggle rooms for themselves. I‘ve been pushed enough by scum in the latest games I played that I have a good grasp on the alignment of those pushing me. For now yours doesn‘t seem that scummy so far. I feel like you just don‘t know me. Which is a given since you never played with me before.Why all the GTH stuff? Seems very strange/particular to need to have a definitive statement one way or the other in a game where your opinion of a person can change in one post.
The way I see it, between Vanya, yourself and alwaysmind, at least one of you is scum, with how you and alwaysmind jumped at the chance to assume Vanya was telling the truth. And then the three of you felt the need to continue defending the Vanya town read at any chance, stating either "gut" or that "no scum with role/alignment claim that early." Neither of which are compelling arguments to sway anyone's opinion of the person. alwaysmind changed his viewpoint that Vanya could be non-town. How about you?
To your question, I'd lean TvS right now, but I'm not convinced for sure.
Hey DDL - another person outwardly claiming town. Thoughts?
Jojo seems okish as of this post.
Fuji can die.
But I wont be here for the last 8 hours of the fay so I'll likely miss whatever the final wagon ends up becoming![]()
What's your take on alwaysmind so far?I try getting players to give me GTH reads to see where they really stand. I don‘t want people to leave wiggle rooms for themselves. I‘ve been pushed enough by scum in the latest games I played that I have a good grasp on the alignment of those pushing me. For now yours doesn‘t seem that scummy so far. I feel like you just don‘t know me. Which is a given since you never played with me before.
What numbers were you hoping for? Is this dice thing something people do here?F*** you RNG!
I can never read the guy. I like that he‘s active, though, which is rare.What's your take on alwaysmind so far?
Has to do with an ability I have. The higher the better.What numbers were you hoping for? Is this dice thing something people do here?
Ooh, interesting.Has to do with an ability I have. The higher the better.
It‘s pretty cool granted I‘m lucky which I never am lol. RNG gods hate meOoh, interesting.
Not a fan of DDL.Reads?
Given that each role has between 2-4 lives, as per the rules, it doesn't surprise me too much that there hasn't been a death yet.Are we not gonna get any Action WUs here btw? I thought there would be at least 1-2 deaths by now.
That I can agree on. He‘s pretty lackluster so far. I‘m waiting for him to get involved, but man just dropped a vote and dipped again.Not a fan of DDL.
If Cooler doesn't continue posting, throw him in the scum pile.We only have 5 more hours to figure out what to do with today's lynch. There are still plenty of posters in the "just enough posts to squeak past execution" range of posts. Given that we've had 18 hours and 850+ posts to analyze, I'd like to hear something more from:
Mystic Serenade - has posted twice - once on page 2, and then once page 23. You've been around. Care to share your thoughts?
Rottkins - I think was mentioning that they wouldn't be available to post much, but you better post something soon or risk execution.
Sallucion - came on with just a few posts, claiming to not be paying attention. Probably has enough posts right now to avoid execution, given there are still players who haven't posted. Have you read any of the game? Reads/thoughts?
Underworld Broker - Came in late, only a few posts, nothing of substance yet. (I'm not from WG, just haven't played in several years. If you know Law/Tiger, I'm his brother)
Ishamael - again just enough posts to get above that threshold likely - comes in to tell us that they aren't paying attention, and that their activity probably won't get better. Any reason we shouldn't lynch you, Ishamael?
nfcnorth - same as above. Few posts, nothing of real substance. What are your thoughts on Vanya v AG or myself?
Mich - you claim that there's not much of substance so far, saying that it's mostly been fluff. I disagree with you. Care to put any thoughts to players who you find are acting suspicious? Or would you rather stay in the shadows?
Cooler - Came in late, says they won't read prior to their entry into the thread. Perhaps that will give you a fresh perspective. Any town or scum leans yet?
And of course that doesn't include the posters who haven't posted yet. Hopefully will hear from them soon as well.
How about Saturday? An interesting post from himWe only have 5 more hours to figure out what to do with today's lynch. There are still plenty of posters in the "just enough posts to squeak past execution" range of posts. Given that we've had 18 hours and 850+ posts to analyze, I'd like to hear something more from:
Mystic Serenade - has posted twice - once on page 2, and then once page 23. You've been around. Care to share your thoughts?
Rottkins - I think was mentioning that they wouldn't be available to post much, but you better post something soon or risk execution.
Sallucion - came on with just a few posts, claiming to not be paying attention. Probably has enough posts right now to avoid execution, given there are still players who haven't posted. Have you read any of the game? Reads/thoughts?
Underworld Broker - Came in late, only a few posts, nothing of substance yet. (I'm not from WG, just haven't played in several years. If you know Law/Tiger, I'm his brother)
Ishamael - again just enough posts to get above that threshold likely - comes in to tell us that they aren't paying attention, and that their activity probably won't get better. Any reason we shouldn't lynch you, Ishamael?
nfcnorth - same as above. Few posts, nothing of real substance. What are your thoughts on Vanya v AG or myself?
Mich - you claim that there's not much of substance so far, saying that it's mostly been fluff. I disagree with you. Care to put any thoughts to players who you find are acting suspicious? Or would you rather stay in the shadows?
Cooler - Came in late, says they won't read prior to their entry into the thread. Perhaps that will give you a fresh perspective. Any town or scum leans yet?
And of course that doesn't include the posters who haven't posted yet. Hopefully will hear from them soon as well.
[Change Vote Lynch Dragon D. Luffy]
tell me y’all see what I see
Ah ah
We have dice!
Let's ask the RNG Gods who is scum
I didn't include Saturday, because at least with their few posts they seem to be actively progressing the game with vote pressure.How about Saturday? An interesting post from him
[Change Vote Lynch Dragon D. Luffy]
tell me y’all see what I see
15 pages?
Ugh.
I'm doing the skim of the century rn. 4 pages in while also playing DnD discord.
Yo Mich
Don't SR me this game pls
I like my role
It makes sense for me and this post is an attempt to read Andrew, which looks good imoAG does look worse in AG vs Vanya.
BUT
I don't think AG is actually scummy for it.
I think AG looks bad rather than is scum.
If that makes sense.
NotedI think
until i get answer from Drakke
Vanya
Flower
Always
NULL
JoJo
(still on page 11 BTW)
so with that
[VOTE LYNCH JoJo]
This was after Luke said he will Iso admiral, I wish to understand the 'i tried' process @The LukundoI couldn't bollocks a read on Admiral if I tried, mate
I am doing it sometimes, it gives me the possibility to apply pressure on someone to give a read.You the fuck who keeps pinging random people for GTH reads?
Same...Also, I thought we were randing one of the roles we submitted. If it wasn't evident, I didn't get one of the roles I submitted and was very confused for like 10 seconds.
I like the question and the conclusion. Sorting people by game experience is useful. Scum can fake this, but I would like to use the benefit of the doubthow new is LG?
Doesn't help.
I wanted to SR him if he was new
A straightforward conclusionI feel both of your answers aren't the same reasoning. That you didn't have an actual reason. That didn't feel townie
Townie mindsetEven if Rome was scum, you don't know it so preflipping is bad
Maybe his reasoning on Jojo is not explained but he has few ideas I Iike and I consider villagery.you read lukundo way better than I so I would ask you to iso there.
Oh it was Lukundo's read on Draekke I didnt like. Luk gave some vague reasoning along the lines of "this answer isnt good enough" and when I asked him to elaborate on a few different things he hasnt responded.
Jojo has show a towny willingness to reconsider and re-engage slots. Not impossible to replicate as mafia, but can be tough depending on how strong jojo is at fabricating reads, and a good look regardless.
Luk just said on jojo "jojo is mafia or I just dont like jojo's personality."
Here, I guess?Thats literally every game
Not at all.This is a nothingburger.
If Jojo has to go, that's if he's scum, not because he is a Sasuke fan.JoJo’s a sasuke stan he has to go im afraid!
On page 25 right now, I’ll slowly catch up on my work shift.
Town lean—
Andrew
Jojo
draeke
Scum lean—
Vanya
Flowa
I follow a principle of guilty until innocent with her. She hasn’t earned my trust. Also top poster with her doesn’t mean much.I checked and Flowa is top poster, what makes her scum for you?
See you tomorrowI don’t have anything else to add for now
People should keep a close eye on DDL here. Drops in, throws a vote onto a fairly easy person that many would justify if left on me accidentally, and then claims that he "MIGHT" drop back in to change the vote later.
Remember that the lynches are very important and a mislynch early with split votes can potentially allow for mafia to get by without having to worry about being lynched the following day.
I don’t like either of these lynches.Hello hello,
there are about 12.5 hours left in the day, so here's a vote count as of post #747:
Spoiler: Vote count1. @Admiral Fujitora - Flower
2. @Alibaba Saluja
3. @Alwaysmind - Flower > Fujitora
4. @AndrewGreve
5. @Atlantic Storm
6. @Cooler
7. @Draekke
8. @Dragon D. Luffy - AndrewGreve
9. @FLORIDA MAN
10. @Flower - Fujitora
11. @Hidden - AndrewGreve > Lord Genome
12. @Ishmael
13. @JoJo
14. @Karma
15. @Laix - Jojo
16. @Legend
17. @Lind
18. @Lord Genome
19. @MangoSenpai
20. @Mich
21. @nfcnorth
22. @Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Vanya
23. @Revan Reborn
24. @Rottkins
25. @Sallucion
26. @Saturday - Legend > DDL
27. @Shrike
28. @The Lukundo - Jojo
29. @TheAncientCenturion - Flower > Lind > Fujitora
30. @Traveling Swordsman
31. @Ultra - TheAncientCenturion > Flower > Laix
32. @Underworld Broker
33. @Vanya
34. @Vivo Diez
35. @~Mystic Serenade~
Leaderboard
Fujitora: 3
Jojo: 2
Remember that everyone who doesn't vote is considered to be casting two votes against themselves.
I think we broke the lynch execution mechanics already as there is a rather strong possibility that only 1 or 2 people will “qualify “ for the chop tomorrowI don’t like either of these lynches.
Is everyone afraid to vote for that reason?I think we broke the lynch execution mechanics already as there is a rather strong possibility that only 1 or 2 people will “qualify “ for the chop tomorrow