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Basically and that’s where I’m leading this too.

I remember folks called to heal Vanya but with laix claiming the only healing role or whatever and you seem confident so I don’t sus you…. It’s leaves owner.

who has no thread presence and gives excuses. It’s easier to just let your team hold thread presence and you let them or send your own actions.

andrews dead so yeah.
You also, haven't had much thread presence from what I've seen. I don't see where the difference is. We apparently both received the same information.

I'm just didn't say it from the start. It's easier to claim something that hasn't been previously claimed. But that was in fact my action. It almost makes me wonder if you maybe somehow knew that I was receiving that information and then with Vanya's call for claims thought it be the perfect time to share it.

But in the same vein, it is still: I know that we all visited him.

There was no kill night 1, but there was a kill night 2. Does it make sense for us to be missing a kill on Vanya? Or why wasn't there a separate outcry day 2? I guess there was only 1 bleed?

I guess overall. I'm unsure about Ishmael, Mango and Hidden. But if we are missing a kill on Vanya among that list, we would also be missing a kill from day 1 too.
 
. His miller claim today out of no where was bizzare. And him going abt the HRE(?) is bizzare.
Today isn't the first time I've claimed miller.

I've claimed here #1,712, #2,886 and here #3,403.

How many times do you want me to claim.

And I don't think it is weird to be talking about the HRE. I got a message saying that a certain player was now a citizen of the HRE and you guys decided that it is not relevant.
 
I just watched him. If there's a killer in the group, it doesn't make sense for it to be ishmael for revealing the information. But then again, Vanya was calling for people to claim so he could have seen it as easy town cred. As far as I can tell, I haven't seen another doc claim, but that doesn't necessarily tell us anything. But I think Laix has what she says she has.

Mango, I guess is the only one who hasn't revealed anything. Or maybe I haven't gotten that far yet?

[change vote lynch Mango]

I'll keep reading
Too bad for u I can't be voted for today :loool

But you literally made the safest claim possible, you watched vanya which ishmael already claimed. So you already know the names, and your n1 target was yourself, which I'd also a safe claim.

And now you're coming in here acting as if you are town leader, lmao.

I don't know about this one chief.
 
You also, haven't had much thread presence from what I've seen. I don't see where the difference is. We apparently both received the same information.

I'm just didn't say it from the start. It's easier to claim something that hasn't been previously claimed. But that was in fact my action. It almost makes me wonder if you maybe somehow knew that I was receiving that information and then with Vanya's call for claims thought it be the perfect time to share it.

But in the same vein, it is still: I know that we all visited him.

There was no kill night 1, but there was a kill night 2. Does it make sense for us to be missing a kill on Vanya? Or why wasn't there a separate outcry day 2? I guess there was only 1 bleed?

I guess overall. I'm unsure about Ishmael, Mango and Hidden. But if we are missing a kill on Vanya among that list, we would also be missing a kill from day 1 too.

This is a weird post - if I saw that someone watched the same player as me and got the same results as me, I wouldn't be questioning if that player had some kind of "see what I see" ability, it makes more sense that there are two watchers and that should confirm Ishmael as true to you.

That being said, I have Ishmael as a null read right now, I can't nail down anything. MangoSenpai is one of my scum reads right now.

@Admiral Fujitora Hey, I wasn't really too here on Sunday. Can you fill me in on anything I missed lol? Last consistent reading was like around page 70~.

You're lynchproof?!

If you're a friendly indie just come out and say it, I'll defend you. But lynch proof, doctor, bulletproof under easy to follow conditions...

That ain't town

It's fine, we can still execute him.

[vote lynch Laix]

Gonna go make dinner, I'll check in to see how Jojo vsLaix develops later.

What? Alwaysmind is like, honest to goodness probably the only guy I have as a solid townie.

It'd be cool if, instead of lynching a player for a phase, us and group 2 have to trade 2 players each and deal with the consequences.

I ain't reading this many words.

How many posts does TAC have today? These are just a handful I gathered while catching back up. Nothing of use at all. Dude, please start helping.

I kinda am, just skipped some 15 pages of some very boring back and forth between the same people. I think that today's gonna be a day where scum will take a back seat and let us go at each other until we lynch a townie. I think Laix is an indie or town, my thoughts changed from yesterday regarding him. I don't think we should allow people to have endless back and forth like we did D1 and D2 with Draekke and Vanya not being able to simply not answer to something. Both are town, Vanya confirmed one, but his threadplay is shit and leaves a lot of wiggle room to scum because he's antagonistic in general.

We should take it easy and see what we have.


Show me how have I not been helpful.

Shrike, the onus is on you to prove that you have been helpful. You've been insightful and supportive, but I haven't seen a ton of useful town help. Even in this post where you asked how you haven't been helpful - skipped pages, just comments on the Laix v JoJo duel in the most vague way - though indy read is strange I have to say - talking that we shouldn't let people go back and forth on eachother. Insightful, not helpful, if that makes sense.

That being said, I do agree with your thoughts on Vanya lol.


What was this post about lol.

where did everyone go, if u leave me like this I actually have to go do some actual work..

Don't make me do work..

lmao, I mean you saw what happened in the FMA game right.

I think it's plenty within the realm of reason to think this was thought up on the spot.

However if Laix is that kind of egg I don't know, but it's possible. I wouldn't exclude it

I have not read anythiing of D1, so I'm missing that knowledge.

And also wasn't that active last phase.

But, all in all Laix, AM and Owner on my top scum list atm.

As for town, I would say Shrike, Ishmael, Vanya

Rest are I have not too strong opinions on.


Mango hasn't done much at all except increase their post count, like TAC. Easy to throw either Jojo/Laix in your scum read, AM always hard to pick, and Owner who hasn't been talkative.

Your town reads, on the other hand, confuse me. Vanya obviously, but Shrike and Ishmael... tell me why you town read these two?

So I think Hidden is part of the Holy Roman Empire given his casual dismissal that it is a threat

Why then if the Holy Roman Empire title not blue? If it was really a town faction.

Sorry dude, but I think it's more likely that another role is trolling you with that PM. The rules clearly state conversions would be in the write up, so if they are still town and becoming the HRE, then great.

That being said, I now have you as a slight town read, given your miller claim (yes I also missed your hints, but it's been a while since I've played mafia, forgive me). That's likely as much as I'll ever get on you lol.

I admire your confidence. I won't make that 4 man group for sure, 'cause obviously I'm a woman, but also, that's too much responsibility and pressure.

Seriously, though, what is a POE? Vanya wouldn't answer me.

You are playing too safe. Just posted to fill the post count requirement to avoid on the execution block tomorrow, your read on Vanya vs AG looks diplomatic. You didn't say which one of them is town/scum because you want to avoid the suspicion on you if they flip town/scum.

Have you given your scum reads so far?

On page 113 now

That's what I call diplomatic. You want people opinion about them but you didn't tag any player here. Looks like you post just to fill post count requirement and play too safe to avoid being in the scum pile.

Pot meet kettle.




Not going to lie, my head is completely fried from waffling back and forth from Laix to JoJo today. At this point I feel like T/T. AG had Laix on his town reads, and that's enough for me right now to want to not vote either of them (since I have had a town read on JoJo prior to Laix lying).

I want to vote Traveling Swordsman, but since we can't I'm honestly unsure who to go for now. I would have said Alwaysmind, but he's townlean now for me.
 
Sorry dude, but I think it's more likely that another role is trolling you with that PM. The rules clearly state conversions would be in the write up, so if they are still town and becoming the HRE, then great.
I guess I have not explored the possibility that Alibaba Saluja was trolling
 
This is a weird post - if I saw that someone watched the same player as me and got the same results as me, I wouldn't be questioning if that player had some kind of "see what I see" ability, it makes more sense that there are two watchers and that should confirm Ishmael as true to you.

That being said, I have Ishmael as a null read right now, I can't nail down anything. MangoSenpai is one of my scum reads right now.















How many posts does TAC have today? These are just a handful I gathered while catching back up. Nothing of use at all. Dude, please start helping.



Shrike, the onus is on you to prove that you have been helpful. You've been insightful and supportive, but I haven't seen a ton of useful town help. Even in this post where you asked how you haven't been helpful - skipped pages, just comments on the Laix v JoJo duel in the most vague way - though indy read is strange I have to say - talking that we shouldn't let people go back and forth on eachother. Insightful, not helpful, if that makes sense.

That being said, I do agree with your thoughts on Vanya lol.



What was this post about lol.









Mango hasn't done much at all except increase their post count, like TAC. Easy to throw either Jojo/Laix in your scum read, AM always hard to pick, and Owner who hasn't been talkative.

Your town reads, on the other hand, confuse me. Vanya obviously, but Shrike and Ishmael... tell me why you town read these two?





Sorry dude, but I think it's more likely that another role is trolling you with that PM. The rules clearly state conversions would be in the write up, so if they are still town and becoming the HRE, then great.

That being said, I now have you as a slight town read, given your miller claim (yes I also missed your hints, but it's been a while since I've played mafia, forgive me). That's likely as much as I'll ever get on you lol.



Seriously, though, what is a POE? Vanya wouldn't answer me.





Pot meet kettle.




Not going to lie, my head is completely fried from waffling back and forth from Laix to JoJo today. At this point I feel like T/T. AG had Laix on his town reads, and that's enough for me right now to want to not vote either of them (since I have had a town read on JoJo prior to Laix lying).

I want to vote Traveling Swordsman, but since we can't I'm honestly unsure who to go for now. I would have said Alwaysmind, but he's townlean now for me.
I'm doing scum hunting now pressuring him and you are saving Im saying safe. That's contradictory with your complain about me today not doing scum hunting.

Your push against me is weak. You saw my online activities yesterday like a stalker and assumed I read all the pages near EOD. And now when I was busy yesterday not logged in once you still push this fake narrative against me. Was this what your scum mate tell you to do?

I also gave my scum read from D1 to D3.

Also no matter what my answer is you will still reply with the same response so you already set this up with your scum mate how to create a case against me.

Are you protecting nfcnorth now because if he flips scum you are the next lynch target
 
I'm doing scum hunting now pressuring him and you are saving Im saying safe. That's contradictory with your complain about me today not doing scum hunting.

Your push against me is weak. You saw my online activities yesterday like a stalker and assumed I read all the pages near EOD. And now when I was busy yesterday not logged in once you still push this fake narrative against me. Was this what your scum mate tell you to do?

I also gave my scum read from D1 to D3.

Also no matter what my answer is you will still reply with the same response so you already set this up with your scum mate how to create a case against me.

Are you protecting nfcnorth now because if he flips scum you are the next lynch target

You have made maybe 5 posts regarding anything of importance since we had our argument yesterday. Would you suggest the amount of scum hunting you're doing is enough to make someone change their read from you from scum read to town? I wouldn't.

I'm not protecting nfcnorth at all. Go ahead and lynch him if you'd like, but there are many better options, sadly unavailable right now.

I told you that I'm going to ignore any of your activity bs now. Check the other thread - several people used the same tactic for hunting purposes. You're alone in your feelings that using thread activity is inherently bad.
 
You have made maybe 5 posts regarding anything of importance since we had our argument yesterday. Would you suggest the amount of scum hunting you're doing is enough to make someone change their read from you from scum read to town? I wouldn't.

I'm not protecting nfcnorth at all. Go ahead and lynch him if you'd like, but there are many better options, sadly unavailable right now.

I told you that I'm going to ignore any of your activity bs now. Check the other thread - several people used the same tactic for hunting purposes. You're alone in your feelings that using thread activity is inherently bad.
Usingonlune aktivitas is dumb argument because you don't k ke if someone who you stall is busy or not. And as I said you will respons with the same reyarded answer no matter what am answer is and the fact you never addressed this argument of mind shows I was right. Prepare to get lynched tomorrow if nfcnorth flips scum.
 
Little thought I had just now BTW

Lind is never wolf.

I think Flower's go at Lind yesterday was to actually survive.

Flower saw that most people were SR'ing Draekke or Lind.

I feel he was spewing both v.

Yeah, in my heart, I probably will still SR Draekke but if someone else who has a calmer mind listens, I think Flower spewed him Town.

The begging to get Draekke to vote Lind near EOD is p telling imo
 
Usingonlune aktivitas is dumb argument because you don't k ke if someone who you stall is busy or not. And as I said you will respons with the same reyarded answer no matter what am answer is and the fact you never addressed this argument of mind shows I was right. Prepare to get lynched tomorrow if nfcnorth flips scum.
I never stalked you, buddy. I just saw your name at the bottom of the thread in the viewing section. You can't just assume I'm going to use the same argument against you when you don't. I didn't protect nfc, just said that you are just as guilty of coasting and not posting as he is.
 
Day 3 - Jojo shows an ability
@JoJo decided to bend over and show everyone his tight role!

Here is one of Jojo's abilities, described in generic mafia terms:
[Active - Tactical - Ability Cop] - During the night, visit one player you previously marked to learn about their abilities.
 
Saturday looks horrendous, man

I don't want all my reads this game to be wack
Fwiw, I agree with your read on this one.

And I had Hidden as a town read, so it's good to hear you know something there too.

Honestly D1 and 2 we were seeing things very differently, but still felt town the way you dive into things. Still town read, and your reads seem to be aligning more with mine as we go.
 
I never stalked you, buddy. I just saw your name at the bottom of the thread in the viewing section. You can't just assume I'm going to use the same argument against you when you don't. I didn't protect nfc, just said that you are just as guilty of coasting and not posting as he is.
I am scum hunting hi m now so no i am not costing you are lying. You Can't use online activities when you didn't know the circumstance why the user you stalked didn't post. Everyone has their own daily activities.

You called me out when I pushed him show you want to direct the attention to me to save you scum mate nfcnorth
 
I am scum hunting hi m now so no i am not costing you are lying. You Can't use online activities when you didn't know the circumstance why the user you stalked didn't post. Everyone has their own daily activities.

You called me out when I pushed him show you want to direct the attention to me to save you scum mate nfcnorth
TS brah

this is a 3 (?) day argument you’ve had

drop it son and instead give some general reads. lemme see ur top 5 town and scum
 
cool, I think that jojo vote is pretty good mainly basing on how he personally takes comments and speculations about him. As much as Laix tends to fluff and all points about Jojo are sometimes good and sometimes well... Too explosive or just to piss him off. Would pay attention to Laix, hope Jojo Lynch will make situation calmer. Off it is just start of the day 3 so everything can happen yet.

[Vote Lynch Jojo]
[VOTE EXECUTION Rottkins]
 
I am scum hunting hi m now so no i am not costing you are lying. You Can't use online activities when you didn't know the circumstance why the user you stalked didn't post. Everyone has their own daily activities.

You called me out when I pushed him show you want to direct the attention to me to save you scum mate nfcnorth
oh boy, this will be my last response to you so that we're not derailing the damned thread again.

I didn't stalk you, so quit it with that damn story. I used the "users who are viewing this thread" to see that you were online, which is not inherently bad. You saying you went into my profile to see that I was in a PM is stalking.

And now you're driving a narrative that I'm trying to protect nfcnorth, when if you'd look at my reads, I've had him as townlean most of the game, so even if I was protecting him it would be consistent.

I'm guessing others can see the way you're driving this, so again I'm done now. Have fun voting me if you'd like. Unlike you, I'll always be in the lynch pool. So at least its possible.
 
I fully believe that JoJo has the ability revealed BTW.

I just think it's more of a scum ability than a town one (FME)
fme?

i was 50/50 on it being scum or town

that being said i hate sharing abilities and almost denied it. but i haven’t played mafia with a lot of people here and had this been the usual people i played with i would have denied it. i just don’t think i have any meta cred here and i don’t wanna give the person who did that to me any real reason to sus me since i’m an unknown quantity to them

anyways useless info here but yeah. cant go back on it.
 
fme?

i was 50/50 on it being scum or town

that being said i hate sharing abilities and almost denied it. but i haven’t played mafia with a lot of people here and had this been the usual people i played with i would have denied it. i just don’t think i have any meta cred here and i don’t wanna give the person who did that to me any real reason to sus me since i’m an unknown quantity to them

anyways useless info here but yeah. cant go back on it.
What's FME?
 
Finally caught up, forgot how long it takes to read through this stuff.

My thoughts surrounding laix, and their ability, do they generally have a trolling attitude to mafia games, because such behavior would fall in line to having a lynch redirect. It was confirmed they had lied to Jojo by own admission, and once people started to vote for them. He started to sing a different tune to save his own ass, so either they've truly changed their own mind, or is lying again. But the lack of consistent truth is troubling tp say the least.
Yes, Laix has quite the trolling attitude.

Any thoughts on the rest of the game? This is your second post of the game. And there are execution votes on you.
 
OK.

JoJo.

You knew they're unlynchable.

BUT.

You still voted them SOD

Why?
I just wanted him to the have highest votes because, Like i said, I know that beating him in voting game will upgrade the person he’s betting against and Id like an upgrade on my ability. I also want you guys to see that he’s unlynchable so he can be a vig target at night

for the record, despite the votes piling, i didn’t think i was in any real danger. i think we easily could have had a second wagon that would have gotten lynched and i have a few targets in mind. i even would have put myself in the pool

tl;dr i was hoping i could not expose i could role cop, while revealing we had someone who was unlynchable, while still lynching, and getting a nice upgrade on top of it
 
so i have this weird one-shot that suits the theme of my character but not my role

i can basically select a group of 3 numbers on the role list and it will tell me how many scum there are there

i chose:

9. JoJo
10. Karma
11. Laix

and got the result 1 x scum.

obviously im not scum, so i had to choose between karma and jojo

tbh i think karma is just a coasting townie so i went with jojo and their responses have proven me correct

they just instantly started accusing me d1 after i laid the tiniest bit of pressure and haven't stopped talking about me since

and now they have a train going they suddenly know my whole role?

why not share this immediately at the start of the phase...

it's not adding up
You had a group of 3 ability and you put yourself in?
 
oh boy, this will be my last response to you so that we're not derailing the damned thread again.

I didn't stalk you, so quit it with that damn story. I used the "users who are viewing this thread" to see that you were online, which is not inherently bad. You saying you went into my profile to see that I was in a PM is stalking.

And now you're driving a narrative that I'm trying to protect nfcnorth, when if you'd look at my reads, I've had him as townlean most of the game, so even if I was protecting him it would be consistent.

I'm guessing others can see the way you're driving this, so again I'm done now. Have fun voting me if you'd like. Unlike you, I'll always be in the lynch pool. So at least its possible.
And based on what you knew a yoen who viewed this three caught up to EOD pages?

Townreading Nfcnorth based on what? What scumhunting did he do? I guess it doesn't matter if he is acting scummy now since you town lean him day 1. You think read cannot change?
TS brah

this is a 3 (?) day argument you’ve had

drop it son and instead give some general reads. lemme see ur top 5 town and scum
Scum:
The Ancient
Nfcnorth
Draekke/Laix

Town:
Vanya
Vivo
Rottkins just gut feeling
 

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