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AndrewGreve said:
the super weird lynch mechanic means everyone should be voting together, so its towny to make sure you are eligable to be voted. That way players that dont vote with lynch can be targeted with other actions to punish.
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The way he said it sounded jestery is what I meant, keeping the pool open is fine but from a towns pov the thought of you being voted or pushed shouldn’t really cross your mind.
 
JoJo said:
i don’t mind sheeping a wagon bc game mechanics

but voting for a player with no substance to analyze gets us nowhere tomorrow

mislynching a player and then seeing their posts with everyone > mislynching an inactive with nothing to go
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Wad used the word mislynch multiple times once and he was scum,
I have since grown sus of anyone using it to get out of a lynch.
 
JoJo said:
you sound like a "who we lynching" daughter
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i’m quoting this post when i die


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Mich said:
Please don't use such gifs, you hurt my eyes.
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Asking Laix to stop using gifs is like asking to play mafia without scum factions.

it won’t happen, it’s part of the game.
 
Admiral Fujitora said:
Day 2 I feel is a bit too late because if there are scum outside the main wagon today then they will just never vote to lynch anyone ever from tomorrow onward.
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I mean, every day is too late from that perspective. If we all bw one person d1, the same thing has to happen d2 or we devolve to scum being off wagon. Again I'm gonna assume host balanced around the potential that every scumm is literally immune to being voted after d1 in case they take that route
 
Laix said:
what is this lmao

don’t try to separate yourself morally from the wagon then jump on it anyway, at least own it and say it with chest

especially when you tried to randomly call me out for it

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JoJo said:
kek i feel dumb putting so much effort into wanting to see someone else get lynched, but the game needs people to be aligned on the same wagon.

i just assumed that the secondary or any possible tertiary mechanics would fix this kind of thing

anyways [vote lynch lg]
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i already pointed that out that it makes me feel retarded for pushing back on a lynch that was a sus but ended voting for it anyways

i still prefer ishmael but there's 0% chance i can convert everyone save for maybe andrew since he asked for my thoughts on it and was willing to change his vote based on reasonable evidence

you're the type of person who, upon seeing me vote against the wagon, would try and claim im trying to get off tomorrow's ballot

i dont blame you for thinking this, all rational lines of thinking. but considering your behavior of popping in and out, being uncharacteristic, throwing a vote and then leaving, not really having meaningful interactions, etc. i have no faith in you and i genuinely think you're scum
 
Hidden said:
I mean, every day is too late from that perspective. If we all bw one person d1, the same thing has to happen d2 or we devolve to scum being off wagon. Again I'm gonna assume host balanced around the potential that every scumm is literally immune to being voted after d1 in case they take that route
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I am assuming that too, we probably have strong vig roles. We’ll see.
 
Hidden said:
I mean, every day is too late from that perspective. If we all bw one person d1, the same thing has to happen d2 or we devolve to scum being off wagon. Again I'm gonna assume host balanced around the potential that every scumm is literally immune to being voted after d1 in case they take that route
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That being said, if I were the mod, I would let the townies suffer - the rules were very clear, and anyone who read it should have been aware that we needed to consolidate votes. It was talked about ad nauseum by a few of us for a long time, but still most people ignored it. At this point, we've screwed ourselves by not paying attention to the rules. Shizune even made sure to mention often in the sign ups and whenever the rules were posted that there were new rules here at play and we should be paying attention.
 
Hidden said:
It's more like, you were actively talking while the main LG push happened end of day, votes lock at 2, and yet your vote happened exactly at 2. So if it doesn't count from it being too late it HEAVILY look like you want the credit from trying to be a vote candidate for tomorrow, but without the actual risk
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I haven't read the rules yet so idk what that candidate thing is about, p much just supporting main wagon since ppl seem to need votes on lg
 
JoJo said:
i already pointed that out that it makes me feel retarded for pushing back on a lynch that was a sus but ended voting for it anyways

i still prefer ishmael but there's 0% chance i can convert everyone save for maybe andrew since he asked for my thoughts on it and was willing to change his vote based on reasonable evidence

you're the type of person who, upon seeing me vote against the wagon, would try and claim im trying to get off tomorrow's ballot

i dont blame you for thinking this, all rational lines of thinking. but considering your behavior of popping in and out, being uncharacteristic, throwing a vote and then leaving, not really having meaningful interactions, etc. i have no faith in you and i genuinely think you're scum
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i’ve literally been one of the most active players this phase despite being old, dusty and retired so we can put that in the bin

moving on to the rest of your post, there’s nothing of substance here and we’ll let tomorrow speak for itself. stream girls by aespa
 
Draekke said:
That being said, if I were the mod, I would let the townies suffer - the rules were very clear, and anyone who read it should have been aware that we needed to consolidate votes. It was talked about ad nauseum by a few of us for a long time, but still most people ignored it. At this point, we've screwed ourselves by not paying attention to the rules. Shizune even made sure to mention often in the sign ups and whenever the rules were posted that there were new rules here at play and we should be paying attention.
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I mean you say that you'd let town suffer, but it's not really up to town? I'm saying that's mafia could literally choose, "lol none of us are going to vote the main wagon ever" and just openwolf. If that happens there needs to be enough kill power to deal with that
 
Alwaysmind said:
Wad used the word mislynch multiple times once and he was scum,
I have since grown sus of anyone using it to get out of a lynch.
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we literally have a mechanic for getting rid of afk players that starts tomorrow

why use our regular lynch on an afk today

seems like this was pointed out a few times, but no one really took any stock of it.

Draekke said:
Can you explain the two phrases for someone who hasn't played in a while?
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just a meme based on the whole

"would you rather have a "where my hug at" son or "lets compare handsizes" daughter"
Laix said:
i’ve literally been one of the most active players this phase despite being old, dusty and retired so we can put that in the bin

moving on to the rest of your post, there’s nothing of substance here and we’ll let tomorrow speak for itself. stream girls by aespa
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top 15, half of it fluff, the other half being flustered since youre getting sussed on day 1

yes very nice!
 
JoJo said:
we literally have a mechanic for getting rid of afk players that starts tomorrow

why use our regular lynch on an afk today

seems like this was pointed out a few times, but no one really took any stock of it.


just a meme based on the whole

"would you rather have a "where my hug at" son or "lets compare handsizes" daughter"

top 15, half of it fluff, the other half being flustered since youre getting sussed on day 1

yes very nice!
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to be fair LG isn't afk just low activity
 
Hidden said:
Like sure we can say every person NEEDS to vote X, but mafia doesn't have to follow that you know?
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Yes, agreed. And you're right, I am assuming that in a role madness game where every player has 2-4 lives that there will be ample time for town kills etc. I just meant if things go sideways quickly because town can't band together, I wouldn't insert any other mechanism just based on town not reading.
 
JoJo said:
we literally have a mechanic for getting rid of afk players that starts tomorrow

why use our regular lynch on an afk today

seems like this was pointed out a few times, but no one really took any stock of it.


just a meme based on the whole

"would you rather have a "where my hug at" son or "lets compare handsizes" daughter"

top 15, half of it fluff, the other half being flustered since youre getting sussed on day 1

yes very nice!
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you think this is me ‘flustered’ you should go read faves 2020 around day 3

i’m just medicated atm
 
Admiral Fujitora said:
Im talking about what shouldve been done D1.
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I mean I don't get what you're saying though. Sure d1 we could've chosen someone who was more actively scummy or whatever, but us actively trying to force people to vote the same target doesn't really mean much. Yes it probably would've been better because it's unlikely EVERY scum decides to take the route of openwolfing deciding not to join, but tbh it only helps a little and is more up to them than us

Plus it's unrealistic to think you can get a vast majority of players to vote one person anyways unless they're just getting absolutely DUNKED on
 
Draekke said:
What Day 1 has shown us is that we can't just wait for the last couple of hours to make decisions. The activity boomed during these last two hours, which I think is very normal for mafia, but with the lynch mechanic as it is, we need to be proactive about our decisions.
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Welcome to half the mafia championships game ever
 
Admiral Fujitora said:
You ignored me Lindie :/
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Oh, I'm sorry. Heyy Fuji!

JoJo said:
on d1, low activity and afk are essentially one and the same when 99% of the thread has him as a NAI read or null read
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There were active users that were suspected, but cases on them weren't convincing everyone who were willing to vote on a main wagon.

So the compromise here was to make sure everyone willing to vote would at least vote on someone they all agreed on. I believe complaining now about the lynch doesn't help much. We'd have to try better tomorrow.

Also, the players who were named suspicious, but weren't voted will be investigated. It's not a lost cause. I don't believe every lynch has to be informative honestly. If we can't determine a best lynch, then we simply go for a discount option and LG was that option here.
 
Draekke said:
Funny thing is that so many people have said that there wasn't enough time in the day phase, or we should have been more serious at that start of the game... do you see why I hate fluff posting so much? lol
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Hey, people like DDL have jobs eh!
 
Lind said:
There were active users that were suspected, but cases on them weren't convincing everyone who were willing to vote on a main wagon.

So the compromise here was to make sure everyone willing to vote would at least vote on someone they all agreed on. I believe complaining now about the lynch doesn't help much. We'd have to try better tomorrow.

Also, the players who were named suspicious, but weren't voted will be investigated. It's not a lost cause. I don't believe every lynch has to be informative honestly. If we can't determine a best lynch, then we simply go for a discount option and LG was that option here.
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issue i have is that we have a secondary mechanic exactly for people like lg + there was the whole EoD where people arrived in droves and it's important to push against a null wagon and put in names because mafia know who their mates are and you can get info based on who people definitely dont wanna lynch based on it, etc.

it's just an information game, there's no real complaining aside from the fact that we have a mechanic for this. anyways im done with it
 
Hidden said:
I mean I don't get what you're saying though. Sure d1 we could've chosen someone who was more actively scummy or whatever, but us actively trying to force people to vote the same target doesn't really mean much. Yes it probably would've been better because it's unlikely EVERY scum decides to take the route of openwolfing deciding not to join, but tbh it only helps a little and is more up to them than us

Plus it's unrealistic to think you can get a vast majority of players to vote one person anyways unless they're just getting absolutely DUNKED on
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i think we should decide on a lynch much earlier next day so enough ppl actually vote for main wagon
 
Hidden said:
I mean I don't get what you're saying though. Sure d1 we could've chosen someone who was more actively scummy or whatever, but us actively trying to force people to vote the same target doesn't really mean much. Yes it probably would've been better because it's unlikely EVERY scum decides to take the route of openwolfing deciding not to join, but tbh it only helps a little and is more up to them than us

Plus it's unrealistic to think you can get a vast majority of players to vote one person anyways unless they're just getting absolutely DUNKED on
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You just said why, basically forces their hand in a way.
 
JoJo said:
issue i have is that we have a secondary mechanic exactly for people like lg + there was the whole EoD where people arrived in droves and it's important to push against a null wagon and put in names because mafia know who their mates are and you can get info based on who people definitely dont wanna lynch based on it, etc.

it's just an information game, there's no real complaining aside from the fact that we have a mechanic for this. anyways im done with it
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isn't there like 5 people who didn't even say anything today? Pretty sure the execution is for those people first. LF would be skating by for a while before that got to him imo
 
JoJo said:
issue i have is that we have a secondary mechanic exactly for people like lg + there was the whole EoD where people arrived in droves and it's important to push against a null wagon and put in names because mafia know who their mates are and you can get info based on who people definitely dont wanna lynch based on it, etc.

it's just an information game, there's no real complaining aside from the fact that we have a mechanic for this. anyways im done with it
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Shizune has stated that the execution mechanic is to remove inactives as opposed to mod-killing. Shizune also stated that if the execution is going to cause an active poster to be killed, that host manipulation may occur.

I understand your point, but LG has posted enough to slide past even if there was an execution today.
 
Hidden said:
isn't there like 5 people who didn't even say anything today? Pretty sure the execution is for those people first. LF would be skating by for a while before that got to him imo
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he would eventually get axed and there are probably kill abilities to take off stragglers like him. especially attention seeking ones like him.

anyways, doesnt matter. the discussion generated around him and with others is actually pretty decent and definitely all these interactions will give insight for us tomorrow.
 
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