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You guys literally went after DDL after Vanya essentially claimed to be Masons with him. Are you sure that paranoia isn‘t faked atp?
Nope, it wasn't after Vanya claimed him as mason. The sus started on DDL earlier than that. And if you'll notice, many people dropped off the DDL wagon prior to his epic meltdown.

And Vanya wasn't confirmed town until this morning.
 
a dozen posts of just pure fluff which is normal for day 1 but also straight up admitting they didnt read the rules gives me town vibes

as a host of huge mashup games, nobody reads the rules and questions you on the mechanics more than the scum team
If I play in your games and roll town, be prepared for a bunch of asinine questions

1. it was a day 1 lynch

2. they died anyway

3. if you think im scum, do something about it cowboy

I dont think #2 is important
 
1. it was a day 1 lynch

2. they died anyway

3. if you think im scum, do something about it cowboy
the emotional cost for both flower and DDL is still fundamentally identical to outsiders like us. If anything, dogpiling someone stupidly like that on d1 is way dumber than you saying "people have reason to be sus of flower but im still not about it,"

all you have are excuses. like somehow not knowing that LG was leading the wagon and thinking that DDL was. or that "he died anyways" which is totally irrelevant to the game because there was no way in which you could have known that and it's incredibly sus of you to try and include a fact that you had no knowledge of in your defense.

funnily enough yesterday, you tried to accuse me of distancing myself from the LG vote "if he flips town" or something to that effect. he didnt and you're silent about it. crazy how you this game you keep trying to rationalize the actions of others in the worst way, and probably if it gets exposed you were wrong you'll just pivot to something else.

you're scum brah. i cant do nothing about it because you dodged the wagon yesterday. vote the wagon today and tomorrow ill show you what i can do
 
the emotional cost for both flower and DDL is still fundamentally identical to outsiders like us. If anything, dogpiling someone stupidly like that on d1 is way dumber than you saying "people have reason to be sus of flower but im still not about it,"

all you have are excuses. like somehow not knowing that LG was leading the wagon and thinking that DDL was. or that "he died anyways" which is totally irrelevant to the game because there was no way in which you could have known that and it's incredibly sus of you to try and include a fact that you had no knowledge of in your defense.

funnily enough yesterday, you tried to accuse me of distancing myself from the LG vote "if he flips town" or something to that effect. he didnt and you're silent about it. crazy how you this game you keep trying to rationalize the actions of others in the worst way, and probably if it gets exposed you were wrong you'll just pivot to something else.

you're scum brah. i cant do nothing about it because you dodged the wagon yesterday. vote the wagon today and tomorrow ill show you what i can do

the emotional cost for both flower and DDL is still fundamentally identical to outsiders like us. If anything, dogpiling someone stupidly like that on d1 is way dumber than you saying "people have reason to be sus of flower but im still not about it,"

you've contributed nothing to the discussion of this lynch other than attacking me. did i spook you d1 with the sasuke question? it wasn't related to an ability so you can tell your scumchat to calm down!

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all you have are excuses. like somehow not knowing that LG was leading the wagon and thinking that DDL was. or that "he died anyways" which is totally irrelevant to the game because there was no way in which you could have known that and it's incredibly sus of you to try and include a fact that you had no knowledge of in your defense.

what are you even talking about

did you miss the part where DDL ragequit?

funnily enough yesterday, you tried to accuse me of distancing myself from the LG vote "if he flips town" or something to that effect. he didnt and you're silent about it. crazy how you this game you keep trying to rationalize the actions of others in the worst way, and probably if it gets exposed you were wrong you'll just pivot to something else.

i don't even remember saying this

you're scum brah. i cant do nothing about it because you dodged the wagon yesterday. vote the wagon today and tomorrow ill show you what i can do

oooh what you gonna do

lynch me?

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you've contributed nothing to the discussion of this lynch other than attacking me. did i spook you d1 with the sasuke question? it wasn't related to an ability so you can tell your scumchat to calm down!

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what are you even talking about

did you miss the part where DDL ragequit?



i don't even remember saying this



oooh what you gonna do

lynch me?

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Yeah, cause that looks good. Mocking people for not being able to lynch you, because your vote wasn't in the pile. Nice.
 
@AndrewGreve :


Remember that EOD (sunset for the day phase) is just over an hour away.

[Vote Lynch Dragon D Luffy]

That being said, I'm open to Flower or Vanya vote as well. All this claiming so early, as if it should be infallible.

As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?
 
Wtf do you want? You even ddin't know what I was doing near EOD and your assumption was I was catching up with the thread last day when in fact I was busy and reread some old posts. That's why using online activities is dumb
Stop using that as an excuse. I couldn't care less what you say you were doing. It was the end of the day. You were online, in the thread. And you chose not to change your vote. That's the facts, and you've even admitted that you were indeed in the thread at the time.

The more you push back at this, the worse it sounds to me.
 
@AndrewGreve :




As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?

boom!
 
I dont think #2 is important
it's absolutely not. he's trying to use some retrospective point to save his neck. hilarious how he tries to call out "non contributive" posters on the wagon for lg and name drops me instead of the other people barely playing who join in on the wagon

you've contributed nothing to the discussion of this lynch other than attacking me.
there's more things than just the stuff happening today. you LITERALLY just complained about people dogpiling flower. should i do the thing you just complain about? should i keep the focus in one direction? should i not respond and interact with someone who tried to call me out in the beginning of the day phase

this is more of your "you're not contributing" garbage

did you miss the part where DDL ragequit?
you said "he died anyways" which facts into something that happened AFTER your lynch and now you're saying it was so obvious he rage quit before it. which also doesnt make sense, why vote for someone who you know is gonna die and rage quit?

oooh what you gonna do

lynch me?
i know you're scared, but it doesnt mean you should worry about me
 
@AndrewGreve :




As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?
3 townies.

A) Vanya was not confirmed yet.
B) I will almost ALWAYS provide a dissenting opinion to groupthink, and far too many of you guys were falling over yourselves to believe him.
C) it's only 3 townies if you are truly a townie.
 
Stop using that as an excuse. I couldn't care less what you say you were doing. It was the end of the day. You were online, in the thread. And you chose not to change your vote. That's the facts, and you've even admitted that you were indeed in the thread at the time.

The more you push back at this, the worse it sounds to me.
So in fact you didn't know what I was doing yesterday EOD and you are assuming I read all the pages yesterday until the last page. That's a dumb argument you have using online activities. It looks worse on you. Targeting players whose online activities you can see even though you didn't know what they did yesterday near EOD
 
So in fact you didn't know what I was doing yesterday EOD and you are assuming I read all the pages yesterday until the last page. That's a dumb argument you have using online activities. It looks worse on you. Targeting players whose online activities you can see even though you didn't know what they did yesterday near EOD
JFC I'm not targeting you because you were active during the EOD - I'm targeting you because you didn't put your vote on the vote stack, and you were around. There were several others, so I'm not just spotlighting you. And I never once said that there weren't other players that I couldnt see that also did the same. But unfortunately I cannot see them. I could only see the group I mentioned. So fuck yes I'm going to press yall. And your defensiveness isn't looking great.
 
3 townies.

A) Vanya was not confirmed yet.
B) I will almost ALWAYS provide a dissenting opinion to groupthink, and far too many of you guys were falling over yourselves to believe him.
C) it's only 3 townies if you are truly a townie.
You see, I don‘t understand this. I‘m overjoyed when somebody‘s confirmed or gets cleared. If anything your vote should have been on Vanya rather than on DDL there. Because Vanya could have been scum with TMI, too. But DDL was never scum here. So how does this make any sense?
 
it's absolutely not. he's trying to use some retrospective point to save his neck. hilarious how he tries to call out "non contributive" posters on the wagon for lg and name drops me instead of the other people barely playing who join in on the wagon


there's more things than just the stuff happening today. you LITERALLY just complained about people dogpiling flower. should i do the thing you just complain about? should i keep the focus in one direction? should i not respond and interact with someone who tried to call me out in the beginning of the day phase

this is more of your "you're not contributing" garbage


you said "he died anyways" which facts into something that happened AFTER your lynch and now you're saying it was so obvious he rage quit before it. which also doesnt make sense, why vote for someone who you know is gonna die and rage quit?


i know you're scared, but it doesnt mean you should worry about me

i havent heard so much crap since a drake album

you really want me to crack or slip don't you? ever since that little flustered comment from d1

like i've said multiple times, if you think i'm scum? do something about it

otherwise, keep it pushin

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You see, I don‘t understand this. I‘m overjoyed when somebody‘s confirmed or gets cleared. If anything your vote should have been on Vanya rather than on DDL there. Because Vanya could have been scum with TMI, too. But DDL was never scum here. So how does this make any sense?
Because I was pressuring DDL. He posted and dropped a vote and said something along the lines of "well I'm off, I MIGHT be back" and so I pressed him on that. And then he fucking exploded.

Am I not allowed to press others than who I might have the biggest scum lean on?
 
Because I don't believe everything someone tells me. I stated very clearly that I would change my vote to the stack once we got to the end.

Why do you all think its such a bad idea to pressure people?
Because fake clearing ppl is never the play there. If DDL was scum with Vanya here, Vanya would just suicide with him. So it was either scum Vanya clearing a Town DDL for cred or Vanya was just saying the truth. So I don‘t see why you wanted to pressure DDL there when pressure wasn‘t needed anymore. The guy said he had no time and was basically confirmed Town at that point. Tf you need pressure for? That‘s a lame excuse.
 
oh and @JoJo

[VOTE LYNCH Flower]

if she flips scum, lynch me tomorrow

if she flips town, you're getting the noose bby

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yeah im getting the noose and wrapping it around your neck

loving the cognitive dissonance btw

from thinking and leaning that flower is town to just straight up voting her. you were dissenting with the thread and now you're dissenting with yourself.

you're either playing really bad, or you're getting scared and trying to either lynch teammate or hope you can take out someone else with you

you're scum
 
@AndrewGreve :




As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?
hmm well it was oringally a d1 tone read, so not crazy strong.

I do think they have been interacting with multiple people, engaging in real time solving, and generally trying to find scum. There is also what appears to me as genuinie flow of thought as Draekke's reads change and develop. nothing choppy or forced.

these are thing I would not say about your game.

ignoring Vanya's peek was dumb for sure.
Just like I was dumb for wanting to ignore your claim before you had a chance to verify out of frustration.

I also have mechanical info that very softly suggests Draekke is town.

I vote and push townies every game as town. Relying on someone's D1 vote/push record as your main method to solve is pretty bad(and fairly innaccurate). He also ended up on a mafia, so if you want to focus on his actions, that was the end result.(LG being lost, means all his voters dont get much cred, but still)
 
Because fake clearing ppl is never the play there. If DDL was scum with Vanya here, Vanya would just suicide with him. So it was either scum Vanya clearing a Town DDL for cred or Vanya was just saying the truth. So I don‘t see why you wanted to pressure DDL there when pressure wasn‘t needed anymore. The guy said he had no time and was basically confirmed Town at that point. Tf you need pressure for? That‘s a lame excuse.
No its not. It might be a bad play for mafia to do what Vanya did, but lets not pretend like he's not made mistakes in this game already. Claiming what he's claimed today is fucking dumb. So I always include the possibility that someone is either playing dumb, or playing so smart that they convince others his scummy plays are just dumb plays.

And, if you'll remember, at the time Vanya and I were at each other's throats. Pretty much all day. I was certainly pressuring more than one person, and definitely those who people assume are town because such simple belief will get town killed.

BUT all this said, I appreciate that you're trying to help town now at least, and didn't just walk away.
 
No its not. It might be a bad play for mafia to do what Vanya did, but lets not pretend like he's not made mistakes in this game already. Claiming what he's claimed today is fucking dumb. So I always include the possibility that someone is either playing dumb, or playing so smart that they convince others his scummy plays are just dumb plays.

And, if you'll remember, at the time Vanya and I were at each other's throats. Pretty much all day. I was certainly pressuring more than one person, and definitely those who people assume are town because such simple belief will get town killed.

BUT all this said, I appreciate that you're trying to help town now at least, and didn't just walk away.
Then why go for DDL over Vanya in this case?
 
yeah im getting the noose and wrapping it around your neck

loving the cognitive dissonance btw

from thinking and leaning that flower is town to just straight up voting her. you were dissenting with the thread and now you're dissenting with yourself.

you're either playing really bad, or you're getting scared and trying to either lynch teammate or hope you can take out someone else with you

you're scum

ummm okay its d2 even i've read the mechanics by now but i'll explain anyway because you seem lost!

any1 who voted for the lynch is a viable lynch candidate for day 2

i've made it vehemently clear i do not believe flower to be scum, but the 2 rocks swirling about your skull came to the conclusion i must be scum d1 for... im still not sure tbh?

the wagon on flower is set and she has admittedly given up. despite what i personally feel about her alignment, there is nothing i can do

voting for her is putting myself in the ring for the lynch next phase so i can prove a point

but, like i've said multiple times

if you think i'm scum jojo... do something about it

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