Game Favorites '22 - GROUP 1

[Laix]

You guys literally went after DDL after Vanya essentially claimed to be Masons with him. Are you sure that paranoia isn‘t faked atp?

gagged them a bit!

Yeah about a dozen people have either claimed not to read the rules, their role, or just very obviously didn't because they don't know how the game works.

im just speaking from experience

 

[AndrewGreve]

what was the reason for originally pushing flower?

I wasnt the first, but I pushed there because of lack luster play, spamming out "give me a GTH read" to the entire game and barely caring about the responses.

Vanya may have been on flower before me and I am not sure why.

 

[Draekke]

You guys literally went after DDL after Vanya essentially claimed to be Masons with him. Are you sure that paranoia isn‘t faked atp?

Nope, it wasn't after Vanya claimed him as mason. The sus started on DDL earlier than that. And if you'll notice, many people dropped off the DDL wagon prior to his epic meltdown.

And Vanya wasn't confirmed town until this morning.

 

[Vanya]

anyway let me get my execution vote in

[Vote Execute MangoSenpai]

No

 

[Draekke]

gagged them a bit!



im just speaking from experience

Well maybe start speaking from experience in this game specifically.

 

[Vanya]

Vanya may have been on flower before me and I am not sure why.

Cause she didnt do jack shit

 

[Karma]

[Execute Vivo Diez]

Ur revolt against the legion has not gone unnoticed

 

[Vanya]

[Execute Vivo Diez]

Ur revolt against the legion has not gone unnoticed

Yeahh

Gonna invoke TMI here....

 

[Flower]

@Karma who would you wanna lynch today?

 

[AndrewGreve]

a dozen posts of just pure fluff which is normal for day 1 but also straight up admitting they didnt read the rules gives me town vibes

as a host of huge mashup games, nobody reads the rules and questions you on the mechanics more than the scum team

If I play in your games and roll town, be prepared for a bunch of asinine questions

1. it was a day 1 lynch

2. they died anyway

3. if you think im scum, do something about it cowboy

I dont think #2 is important

 

[Hidden]

Nope, it wasn't after Vanya claimed him as mason. The sus started on DDL earlier than that. And if you'll notice, many people dropped off the DDL wagon prior to his epic meltdown.

And Vanya wasn't confirmed town until this morning.

tbh I had vanya as pretty confirmed town after ddl flipping lol

 

[Flower]

[Change Execute Atlantic Storm].

 

[AndrewGreve]

Norhing rlly compelling for me in the other DDL or Flower wagons, so i went after someone i knew was gonna be inactive the whole game

I thought you were there early AF, like before wagons formed

 

[Laix]

If I play in your games and roll town, be prepared for a bunch of asinine questions



I dont think #2 is important

well #2 is important because DDL rage quit the game after like 3 votes, he wasn't even the #1 wagon in the end but still requested a modkill

so...

 

[AndrewGreve]

You guys literally went after DDL after Vanya essentially claimed to be Masons with him. Are you sure that paranoia isn‘t faked atp?

who went after DDL?
not me I was already commited saving him when he quit.

 

[Karma]

Yeahh

Gonna invoke TMI here....

The same that made u sure of DDL?

@Karma who would you wanna lynch today?

Im gonna reread the part after i left for work, ill prolly just vote on whoever had the worst vote tracking/reasoning

 

[Vanya]

The same that made u sure of DDL?

Yes

 

[Flower]

who went after DDL?
not me I was already commited saving him when he quit.

Let me reread.

 

[JoJo]

1. it was a day 1 lynch

2. they died anyway

3. if you think im scum, do something about it cowboy

the emotional cost for both flower and DDL is still fundamentally identical to outsiders like us. If anything, dogpiling someone stupidly like that on d1 is way dumber than you saying "people have reason to be sus of flower but im still not about it,"

all you have are excuses. like somehow not knowing that LG was leading the wagon and thinking that DDL was. or that "he died anyways" which is totally irrelevant to the game because there was no way in which you could have known that and it's incredibly sus of you to try and include a fact that you had no knowledge of in your defense.

funnily enough yesterday, you tried to accuse me of distancing myself from the LG vote "if he flips town" or something to that effect. he didnt and you're silent about it. crazy how you this game you keep trying to rationalize the actions of others in the worst way, and probably if it gets exposed you were wrong you'll just pivot to something else.

you're scum brah. i cant do nothing about it because you dodged the wagon yesterday. vote the wagon today and tomorrow ill show you what i can do

 

[Draekke]

Yes

That was so early man... you could have waited to see if the vote naturally swayed to another player. yeesh.

 

[AndrewGreve]

[Execute ~Mystic Serenade~]

feel like this player is normally useful? its a vague memory

feels right unless non-posters show up and change my mind

 

[Karma]

I thought you were there early AF, like before wagons formed

How do u mean?

I saw ppl voting for Flower and DDL wen i was reading

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Flower could be town. The ability to make player on eligible lynch seems to be scum ability and Flower got hit by that ability.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

On page #51 and I likely will stay here for awhile. Family dinner and wine are waiting for me when I get off work.

Did anyone else read group 2? I have some players I like and dislike, can expand more over there. We can try to coordinate with townies there to ensure the inevitable merge is as scum free as possible.

 

[Draekke]

Flower could be town. The ability to make player on eligible lynch seems to be scum ability and Flower got hit by that ability.

Are you going to put your vote on the stack today?

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Are you going to put your vote on the stack today?

I'm watching first before I decide my vote

 

[Laix]

the emotional cost for both flower and DDL is still fundamentally identical to outsiders like us. If anything, dogpiling someone stupidly like that on d1 is way dumber than you saying "people have reason to be sus of flower but im still not about it,"

all you have are excuses. like somehow not knowing that LG was leading the wagon and thinking that DDL was. or that "he died anyways" which is totally irrelevant to the game because there was no way in which you could have known that and it's incredibly sus of you to try and include a fact that you had no knowledge of in your defense.

funnily enough yesterday, you tried to accuse me of distancing myself from the LG vote "if he flips town" or something to that effect. he didnt and you're silent about it. crazy how you this game you keep trying to rationalize the actions of others in the worst way, and probably if it gets exposed you were wrong you'll just pivot to something else.

you're scum brah. i cant do nothing about it because you dodged the wagon yesterday. vote the wagon today and tomorrow ill show you what i can do

the emotional cost for both flower and DDL is still fundamentally identical to outsiders like us. If anything, dogpiling someone stupidly like that on d1 is way dumber than you saying "people have reason to be sus of flower but im still not about it,"

you've contributed nothing to the discussion of this lynch other than attacking me. did i spook you d1 with the sasuke question? it wasn't related to an ability so you can tell your scumchat to calm down!

all you have are excuses. like somehow not knowing that LG was leading the wagon and thinking that DDL was. or that "he died anyways" which is totally irrelevant to the game because there was no way in which you could have known that and it's incredibly sus of you to try and include a fact that you had no knowledge of in your defense.

what are you even talking about

did you miss the part where DDL ragequit?

funnily enough yesterday, you tried to accuse me of distancing myself from the LG vote "if he flips town" or something to that effect. he didnt and you're silent about it. crazy how you this game you keep trying to rationalize the actions of others in the worst way, and probably if it gets exposed you were wrong you'll just pivot to something else.

i don't even remember saying this

you're scum brah. i cant do nothing about it because you dodged the wagon yesterday. vote the wagon today and tomorrow ill show you what i can do

oooh what you gonna do

lynch me?

 

[Draekke]

I'm watching first before I decide my vote

hey me too. Just asking a question. Which you actually didn't answer tbf

 

[Karma]

[Unvote execute]

 

[Draekke]

you've contributed nothing to the discussion of this lynch other than attacking me. did i spook you d1 with the sasuke question? it wasn't related to an ability so you can tell your scumchat to calm down!

what are you even talking about

did you miss the part where DDL ragequit?



i don't even remember saying this



oooh what you gonna do

lynch me?

Yeah, cause that looks good. Mocking people for not being able to lynch you, because your vote wasn't in the pile. Nice.

 

[Laix]

Yeah, cause that looks good. Mocking people for not being able to lynch you, because your vote wasn't in the pile. Nice.

like i said, if yall think im scum, do something about it

 

[AndrewGreve]

well #2 is important because DDL rage quit the game after like 3 votes, he wasn't even the #1 wagon in the end but still requested a modkill

so...

I just disagree that relate's to jojo's point about your logic on flower and DDL being opposite.

also pretty sure DDL was lead wagon when you voted.

day1 vs day2 might matter, but still weird to me.

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

hey me too. Just asking a question. Which you actually didn't answer tbf

Wtf do you want? You even ddin't know what I was doing near EOD and your assumption was I was catching up with the thread last day when in fact I was busy and reread some old posts. That's why using online activities is dumb

 

[Laix]

I just disagree that relate's to jojo's point about your logic on flower and DDL being opposite.

also pretty sure DDL was lead wagon when you voted.

day1 vs day2 might matter, but still weird to me.

jojo has no points

 

[Flower]

@AndrewGreve :

Remember that EOD (sunset for the day phase) is just over an hour away.

[Vote Lynch Dragon D Luffy]

That being said, I'm open to Flower or Vanya vote as well. All this claiming so early, as if it should be infallible.

As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?

 

[Draekke]

Wtf do you want? You even ddin't know what I was doing near EOD and your assumption was I was catching up with the thread last day when in fact I was busy and reread some old posts. That's why using online activities is dumb

Stop using that as an excuse. I couldn't care less what you say you were doing. It was the end of the day. You were online, in the thread. And you chose not to change your vote. That's the facts, and you've even admitted that you were indeed in the thread at the time.

The more you push back at this, the worse it sounds to me.

 

[Laix]

@AndrewGreve :




As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?

boom!

 

[AndrewGreve]

How do u mean?

I saw ppl voting for Flower and DDL wen i was reading

I must be mis remembering.

I remember you telling people to just vote LG, and thought it was the first time I saw any player pushing for votes anywhere specific

 

[Flower]

@Draekke why did you vote DDL after Vanya‘s confirmation?

 

[JoJo]

I dont think #2 is important

it's absolutely not. he's trying to use some retrospective point to save his neck. hilarious how he tries to call out "non contributive" posters on the wagon for lg and name drops me instead of the other people barely playing who join in on the wagon

you've contributed nothing to the discussion of this lynch other than attacking me.

there's more things than just the stuff happening today. you LITERALLY just complained about people dogpiling flower. should i do the thing you just complain about? should i keep the focus in one direction? should i not respond and interact with someone who tried to call me out in the beginning of the day phase

this is more of your "you're not contributing" garbage

did you miss the part where DDL ragequit?

you said "he died anyways" which facts into something that happened AFTER your lynch and now you're saying it was so obvious he rage quit before it. which also doesnt make sense, why vote for someone who you know is gonna die and rage quit?

oooh what you gonna do

lynch me?

i know you're scared, but it doesnt mean you should worry about me

 

[AndrewGreve]

Flower could be town. The ability to make player on eligible lynch seems to be scum ability and Flower got hit by that ability.

really?

I feel like a town role being able to force an outted scum into the lynch pool is almost mandatory in this set up

 

[Draekke]

@AndrewGreve :




As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?

3 townies.

A) Vanya was not confirmed yet.
B) I will almost ALWAYS provide a dissenting opinion to groupthink, and far too many of you guys were falling over yourselves to believe him.
C) it's only 3 townies if you are truly a townie.

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Stop using that as an excuse. I couldn't care less what you say you were doing. It was the end of the day. You were online, in the thread. And you chose not to change your vote. That's the facts, and you've even admitted that you were indeed in the thread at the time.

The more you push back at this, the worse it sounds to me.

So in fact you didn't know what I was doing yesterday EOD and you are assuming I read all the pages yesterday until the last page. That's a dumb argument you have using online activities. It looks worse on you. Targeting players whose online activities you can see even though you didn't know what they did yesterday near EOD

 

[Karma]

I must be mis remembering.

I remember you telling people to just vote LG, and thought it was the first time I saw any player pushing for votes anywhere specific

No thats correct

I told ppl to vote LG, but i was only being half serious. Nothing abt his play that phase actually swayed my opinion abt him one way or another

 

[Draekke]

So in fact you didn't know what I was doing yesterday EOD and you are assuming I read all the pages yesterday until the last page. That's a dumb argument you have using online activities. It looks worse on you. Targeting players whose online activities you can see even though you didn't know what they did yesterday near EOD

JFC I'm not targeting you because you were active during the EOD - I'm targeting you because you didn't put your vote on the vote stack, and you were around. There were several others, so I'm not just spotlighting you. And I never once said that there weren't other players that I couldnt see that also did the same. But unfortunately I cannot see them. I could only see the group I mentioned. So fuck yes I'm going to press yall. And your defensiveness isn't looking great.

 

[AndrewGreve]

jojo has no points

you are so contrary today.

I remember you once said your true wincon is to make the game fun.

 

[Flower]

3 townies.

A) Vanya was not confirmed yet.
B) I will almost ALWAYS provide a dissenting opinion to groupthink, and far too many of you guys were falling over yourselves to believe him.
C) it's only 3 townies if you are truly a townie.

You see, I don‘t understand this. I‘m overjoyed when somebody‘s confirmed or gets cleared. If anything your vote should have been on Vanya rather than on DDL there. Because Vanya could have been scum with TMI, too. But DDL was never scum here. So how does this make any sense?

 

[Laix]

it's absolutely not. he's trying to use some retrospective point to save his neck. hilarious how he tries to call out "non contributive" posters on the wagon for lg and name drops me instead of the other people barely playing who join in on the wagon


there's more things than just the stuff happening today. you LITERALLY just complained about people dogpiling flower. should i do the thing you just complain about? should i keep the focus in one direction? should i not respond and interact with someone who tried to call me out in the beginning of the day phase

this is more of your "you're not contributing" garbage


you said "he died anyways" which facts into something that happened AFTER your lynch and now you're saying it was so obvious he rage quit before it. which also doesnt make sense, why vote for someone who you know is gonna die and rage quit?


i know you're scared, but it doesnt mean you should worry about me

i havent heard so much crap since a drake album

you really want me to crack or slip don't you? ever since that little flustered comment from d1

like i've said multiple times, if you think i'm scum? do something about it

otherwise, keep it pushin

 

[Laix]

you are so contrary today.

I remember you once said your true wincon is to make the game fun.

guess i won

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

I'm targeting you because you didn't put your vote on the vote stack, and you were around.

I explained why

And your defensiveness isn't looking great.

Provide evidence that I read all the pages yesterday

 

[Draekke]

@Draekke why did you vote DDL after Vanya‘s confirmation?

Because I don't believe everything someone tells me. I stated very clearly that I would change my vote to the stack once we got to the end.

Why do you all think its such a bad idea to pressure people?

 

[Laix]

oh and @JoJo

[VOTE LYNCH Flower]

if she flips scum, lynch me tomorrow

if she flips town, you're getting the noose bby

 

[Vanya]

i havent heard so much crap since a drake album

I love you

 

[Draekke]

You see, I don‘t understand this. I‘m overjoyed when somebody‘s confirmed or gets cleared. If anything your vote should have been on Vanya rather than on DDL there. Because Vanya could have been scum with TMI, too. But DDL was never scum here. So how does this make any sense?

Because I was pressuring DDL. He posted and dropped a vote and said something along the lines of "well I'm off, I MIGHT be back" and so I pressed him on that. And then he fucking exploded.

Am I not allowed to press others than who I might have the biggest scum lean on?

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

And your defensiveness isn't looking great.

Edit:

Provide evidence that I read all the pages yesterday near EOD

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

oh and @JoJo

[VOTE LYNCH Flower]

if she flips scum, lynch me tomorrow

if she flips town, you're getting the noose bby

I like the balls in this play.

 

[Draekke]

I explained why


Provide evidence that I read all the pages yesterday

Lol, not something provable and you know it.

But what is common sense - to know when the votes lock and be somewhat fucking observant about the time.

 

[Vanya]

Im lynching flower on the basis of stalling

All she did was stall. If she will die next night per her words ill rather lynch her to be sure. Scum is one down with 0 kills, even if Flower somehow flips town it isnt end of the world considering flower was willing to not be town

 

[Laix]

also can we also as a group stop pretending ddl's death wasn't a suicide by lynch/modkill

he openly ragequit and requested a modkill regardless

aubrey graham didnt do anything wrong by pressuring ddl, he's historically been a d1 lynch because hes a dangerous scum

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Lol, not something provable and you know it.

But what is common sense - to know when the votes lock and be somewhat fucking observant about the time.

No it's not common sense. You are pulling shit out of your ass

 

[Flower]

Because I don't believe everything someone tells me. I stated very clearly that I would change my vote to the stack once we got to the end.

Why do you all think its such a bad idea to pressure people?

Because fake clearing ppl is never the play there. If DDL was scum with Vanya here, Vanya would just suicide with him. So it was either scum Vanya clearing a Town DDL for cred or Vanya was just saying the truth. So I don‘t see why you wanted to pressure DDL there when pressure wasn‘t needed anymore. The guy said he had no time and was basically confirmed Town at that point. Tf you need pressure for? That‘s a lame excuse.

 

[Draekke]

also can we also as a group stop pretending ddl's death wasn't a suicide by lynch/modkill

he openly ragequit and requested a modkill regardless

aubrey graham didnt do anything wrong by pressuring ddl, he's historically been a d1 lynch because hes a dangerous scum

See now THIS is the Laix I'm a bit more used to. Insulting me with lame rapper names.

 

[Vanya]

Tho ill still go for draeke and laix post flower

 

[JoJo]

oh and @JoJo

[VOTE LYNCH Flower]

if she flips scum, lynch me tomorrow

if she flips town, you're getting the noose bby

yeah im getting the noose and wrapping it around your neck

loving the cognitive dissonance btw

from thinking and leaning that flower is town to just straight up voting her. you were dissenting with the thread and now you're dissenting with yourself.

you're either playing really bad, or you're getting scared and trying to either lynch teammate or hope you can take out someone else with you

you're scum

 

[AndrewGreve]

@AndrewGreve :




As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?

hmm well it was oringally a d1 tone read, so not crazy strong.

I do think they have been interacting with multiple people, engaging in real time solving, and generally trying to find scum. There is also what appears to me as genuinie flow of thought as Draekke's reads change and develop. nothing choppy or forced.

these are thing I would not say about your game.

ignoring Vanya's peek was dumb for sure.
Just like I was dumb for wanting to ignore your claim before you had a chance to verify out of frustration.

I also have mechanical info that very softly suggests Draekke is town.

I vote and push townies every game as town. Relying on someone's D1 vote/push record as your main method to solve is pretty bad(and fairly innaccurate). He also ended up on a mafia, so if you want to focus on his actions, that was the end result.(LG being lost, means all his voters dont get much cred, but still)

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

So the consensus is Flowa is scum for stalling / not being useful?

 

[Draekke]

Because fake clearing ppl is never the play there. If DDL was scum with Vanya here, Vanya would just suicide with him. So it was either scum Vanya clearing a Town DDL for cred or Vanya was just saying the truth. So I don‘t see why you wanted to pressure DDL there when pressure wasn‘t needed anymore. The guy said he had no time and was basically confirmed Town at that point. Tf you need pressure for? That‘s a lame excuse.

No its not. It might be a bad play for mafia to do what Vanya did, but lets not pretend like he's not made mistakes in this game already. Claiming what he's claimed today is fucking dumb. So I always include the possibility that someone is either playing dumb, or playing so smart that they convince others his scummy plays are just dumb plays.

And, if you'll remember, at the time Vanya and I were at each other's throats. Pretty much all day. I was certainly pressuring more than one person, and definitely those who people assume are town because such simple belief will get town killed.

BUT all this said, I appreciate that you're trying to help town now at least, and didn't just walk away.

 

[Flower]

Anyway, @Karma is lock Town for me after last day so I will follow him .

 

[Hidden]

Flower could be town. The ability to make player on eligible lynch seems to be scum ability and Flower got hit by that ability.

this is almost always a town abilit ylike I mentioned. It makes SOOO much sense for town to hvae that as a countermeasure to scum being able to make themselves literally lynch immune

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I think I saw someone say Vanya is confirmed is that true

 

[Vanya]

I think I saw someone say Vanya is confirmed is that true

Christ sake Taco did you even look at DDL flip?

 

[Flower]

No its not. It might be a bad play for mafia to do what Vanya did, but lets not pretend like he's not made mistakes in this game already. Claiming what he's claimed today is fucking dumb. So I always include the possibility that someone is either playing dumb, or playing so smart that they convince others his scummy plays are just dumb plays.

And, if you'll remember, at the time Vanya and I were at each other's throats. Pretty much all day. I was certainly pressuring more than one person, and definitely those who people assume are town because such simple belief will get town killed.

BUT all this said, I appreciate that you're trying to help town now at least, and didn't just walk away.

Then why go for DDL over Vanya in this case?

 

[Laix]

yeah im getting the noose and wrapping it around your neck

loving the cognitive dissonance btw

from thinking and leaning that flower is town to just straight up voting her. you were dissenting with the thread and now you're dissenting with yourself.

you're either playing really bad, or you're getting scared and trying to either lynch teammate or hope you can take out someone else with you

you're scum

ummm okay its d2 even i've read the mechanics by now but i'll explain anyway because you seem lost!

any1 who voted for the lynch is a viable lynch candidate for day 2

i've made it vehemently clear i do not believe flower to be scum, but the 2 rocks swirling about your skull came to the conclusion i must be scum d1 for... im still not sure tbh?

the wagon on flower is set and she has admittedly given up. despite what i personally feel about her alignment, there is nothing i can do

voting for her is putting myself in the ring for the lynch next phase so i can prove a point

but, like i've said multiple times

if you think i'm scum jojo... do something about it

 

[AndrewGreve]

boom!

flower and Laix live and play in a completely world of mafia than I do.

or they are scum pretending they do.

really could be either or at this point.

 

[Draekke]

I think I saw someone say Vanya is confirmed is that true

Vanya claims Rome hard. Claims DDL was TMI Teammate. DDL comes up as Mars, which has a group chat with Rome and Hades.

 

[Draekke]

Then why go for DDL over Vanya in this case?

Because all of the rest of my town reads were saying Vanya was town. I didn't stop pressing him, and I continued to press others.

 

[Laix]

flower and Laix live and play in a completely world of mafia than I do.

or they are scum pretending they do.

really could be either or at this point.

am i town? am i scum?

lynch me, and find out!

 

[Vanya]

am i town? am i scum?

lynch me, and find out!

Dont you worry about that!

 

[Draekke]

am i town? am i scum?

lynch me, and find out!

So are you saying that today you'll make sure your vote is on the pile so that you will be eligible for lynch tomorrow?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Christ sake Taco did you even look at DDL flip?

He got my submission!