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what’s the chance that the host mixed in scum and a town between the two games so when they mix there is at least one informed for both teams?

call it tinfoil but i think lind is scum and their purpose is to give info from the other game to their team since it’s most unlike mafia to be engaged in another as opposed to town
I think it is indie nearly always.

been solving in a town way and this site broke my rule of insta voting indies.(though technically its indies that claim early I insta vote)

anyway I am fine letting lind continue doing what they are doing. also the lie detect being possible fake based on what admiral said
 
as the phase has gone on, i’ve gone from 80/20 in favour of her being town to 60/40.

i’m still keeping my vote on her so i’m in the lynch pool for next phase and can make a point to bozo the clown
I just didn't see a hunger in her to solve the game or be part of town in any way

She gave up on us from d1 and now expects us to save her, like come on
 
Well I don't think that's a very good answer. Have you read the lynch rules? Are you town? Would you agree that town's best chance is having as many people in the lynch pool?
I will vote on a lynch that I personally believe in. Yes I am Town. Yes I know the rules. Im not voting just to vote, there may be a taboo like role where that bites you in the ass. Keep in mind this is favorites, which means extreme rolemadness regardless of the lack pf carnage so far.

Additionally Im in the large lynch pool now so you cant say im actively avoiding it. Your theory lacks consistency so far but its only day 2, the sample size isnt large enough to support it.
 
i honestly have no information that could save her otherwise i would’ve shared. i just found her bandwagon really fishy especially when you look who is behind it.

Vanya. But many people agree that she's been scummy or at worst a hindrance.

Flower claims someone stole her flash, stopped her ability from working, and gave her a disease, which kills her tonight even though disease isn't a common thing on the glossary.

Not to mention that if she was going to die tonight anyways, why is she so angry about being voted out - these things literally occur at the same time, give or take an hour.

@ aubrey graham i’m on my mobile

okay so if she flips town, then what? who do we go for next big man

Honestly I don't think it provides us with any real leads. We will start to focus in on those who neglected to vote for the stack D1. At least that's where I'll be looking.

It amazes me you can open your mouth so often and turds keep falling down every time

Yet you keep coming to me to open it up - I'm not into that shit, but to each their own.

We at least move on and not play this stupid game of "guys lemme confirm myself with an ability"
Agreed. It's lame when someone claims and and then gets upset when people don't believe them.
 
I hear you JoJo, and I don't disagree - but I had three separate players tunnel the fuck out of me today, either by trying to incriminate me over themselves (Flower), trying to go on a scumhunt to end all scumhunts by assuming his own outcomes (The Lukundo), and Traveling Swordsman's flailing attempt to cast doubt on my reasoning for being suspicious of him. They all continued to argue for pages. I'm not about to back down and change my game style because some people don't like it. Between these discussions and the need to some RnR IRL, I feel I've done a decent job promoting people to hunt (even if they still want to vote me), and to share my reads with the group.

Agreed on your scum tops.
I feel like you just put yourself in a bad position with your play style. I.e it’s just easy for someone to argue with a vocal player that keeps on going.

For the record Flower I think is scum. The other two I have a town lean on. TS I’m null. He lashes out but this seems commonplace in game. Not enough for me to subjugate him to any level of suspicion.

AM and Laix need to get btfo thougj
 
Not to mention that if she was going to die tonight anyways, why is she so angry about being voted out - these things literally occur at the same time, give or take an hour.
Because none of you guys actually listen. You talk about that I should find scum and when I bring up good points they're being ignored because "FlOWeR iS ScUM". Also I rather die to a scum ability at night than by lynch out of principle. Lynch should be for scum and not Town.
 
I will vote on a lynch that I personally believe in. Yes I am Town. Yes I know the rules. Im not voting just to vote, there may be a taboo like role where that bites you in the ass. Keep in mind this is favorites, which means extreme rolemadness regardless of the lack pf carnage so far.

Additionally Im in the large lynch pool now so you cant say im actively avoiding it. Your theory lacks consistency so far but its only day 2, the sample size isnt large enough to support it.
I disagree with your strategy. Assuming there are abilities to hurt the lynch pool, when that already is such a constraint for town, is a bit of an interesting stance. But even with this, it would still make the most sense to combine.

My "theory" is to question all of those who actively refused to place their votes onto LG by EOD. Just because you put your vote on the pile D2 doesn't rule out you being scummy. I fully assume that mafia will flip back and forth from lynch pool to not for various reasons so as to pretend to be town.
 
I explained what I saw in Hidden, and others have also agreed.
And i disagree with ur assestment on him

U described him as poking and proding others. At the time u said this all he did was talk abt the mechanics.

Ur also gonna have to show me another player agreeing with ur specific assessment of him because i have no recollection of it.

I also tagged this hard town read of urs asking for reads, but im guessing this specfic set up also means not giving reads isnt indicative of alignment just like sheeping votes right? :nonon
 
I disagree with your strategy. Assuming there are abilities to hurt the lynch pool, when that already is such a constraint for town, is a bit of an interesting stance. But even with this, it would still make the most sense to combine.

My "theory" is to question all of those who actively refused to place their votes onto LG by EOD. Just because you put your vote on the pile D2 doesn't rule out you being scummy. I fully assume that mafia will flip back and forth from lynch pool to not for various reasons so as to pretend to be town.
honestly the people who didn't do it on d1 at least have some sort of a pass in that like, the lg wagon formed pretty quickly eod so I can get it from a lot of people. I feel anyone who hasn't joined Flower when that's been consensus for like 80% of the day, though, is not in a great spot :lmao
 
And i disagree with ur assestment on him

U described him as poking and proding others. At the time u said this all he did was talk abt the mechanics.

Ur also gonna have to show me another player agreeing with ur specific assessment of him because i have no recollection of it.

I also tagged this hard town read of urs asking for reads, but im guessing this specfic set up also means not giving reads isnt indicative of alignment just like sheeping votes right? :nonon
oh yeah honestly I saw that then got distracted I can answer it gimme a sec
 
I like you.
Most do

But to answer your question, i wanna solve Draeke and Andrew as soon as possible.

Andrew had weird shit early on with defending Draeke telling us when can ignore him and so on. Likewise he reminds me of a certain playstyle where a player acts like a beacon of stability trying to calm everyone down to make it seem like they are moving game forward. Maybe i am also forgetful but i for the life of me can't remember his actually actively pushing someone to be scum? Can you?

As for Draeke, his entrance to the game was downright bad, he used absurdly weak "reads" to make cases on people that lead nowhere, to me it seemed like someone who is desperate to fit in and establish himself as a townie in a non natural way. That's why i don't trust him, he just tries so fucking hard to be town
 
I disagree with your strategy. Assuming there are abilities to hurt the lynch pool, when that already is such a constraint for town, is a bit of an interesting stance. But even with this, it would still make the most sense to combine.

My "theory" is to question all of those who actively refused to place their votes onto LG by EOD. Just because you put your vote on the pile D2 doesn't rule out you being scummy. I fully assume that mafia will flip back and forth from lynch pool to not for various reasons so as to pretend to be town.
I do understand your pov, its just not my thing atm. I needed a more compelling case to vote on it than just jumping on the wagon.

Its the same lynch I went for day 1? You would need some more consistency no? A bigger sample size to go off on. Thats a good point but constantly vacillating between lynch pools will obviously alert some keen eyed folks.
 
Like I literally just told you why Lind's claim and points are BS and I keep getting ignored.
I think the thing here is like, most people know lind is 95% indie anyways, but I just think (myself included) don't really want to take the super safe obvious vote when imo she's probably neutral at worst.

Like, Lind is probably never mafia because of this weird 2 game with the mafia being seperated thing. Lind is probably never something MEGA anti town like a cult leader or something of that caliber because way too much attention gets thrown on lind immediately by being in both games. Also the fact that lind has joined every wagon so far also gives some amount of town cred. So idk I personally feel like she might just be a survivor or something at worst and I don't really feel like dealing with that atm
 
Maybe I don’t like the content or I’m just not as into maf as I thought I’d be? I don’t think quoting me about my thoughts on the entertainment of the game is going to get you anywhere??

find something better to do.
You realize that you just challenged me to sarcastic replies to your posts eh?

I am honoured and touched.

[change vote lynch Flower]
 
I’m town reading him for it. If we’re gonna be realistic, one of the most engaging parts of the game and a reason to stick around is because as a town, you don’t actually know anything, and you wanna keep tabs on development and you’re both interested and paranoid enough to go through and comb everything. You’re striving to figure out the game. This is in contrast to the informed majority who have, essentially, already “solved” game. There’s really nothing necessitating them from staying in the thread or enganging with people or even chasing leads that might be nothing. They know the answer so it’s “boring for them”

Obviously this contradicts for ekko because he doesn’t know the answers for G2, but with the amount of effort he’s allocating to each game and the fact that he’s solving his own and keeping tabs on us just makes it to seem more likely he’s in the former group I described.

I town read him for it.
havent paid close attention but if Ekko is solving both threads its pretty towny

if only our thread its super wolfy.
 
I feel like you just put yourself in a bad position with your play style. I.e it’s just easy for someone to argue with a vocal player that keeps on going.

For the record Flower I think is scum. The other two I have a town lean on. TS I’m null. He lashes out but this seems commonplace in game. Not enough for me to subjugate him to any level of suspicion.

AM and Laix need to get btfo thougj

I understand that my playstyle irritates people. Can't change it. I don't like being bullied, and I don't like people trying to make false claims to influence others. Law/Tiger is my older brother, imagine why I have such strong feelings about this kind of thing lol. I often am bad at formulating an argument, so it leads to me being frustrated. Apologies to those who find me abrasive, not named Laix or Vanya.

AND IF LG WAS KNOWN TO MAFIA, THE MEME/RANDOM THING THEY WOULDNT DO TO A BUDDY

Yes, but once again - you are basing your reads on the assumption that they did know eachother. But since we don't know that they knew eachother based on LG's role, I want to remind you that you are tunneling on a specific idea again. Leave it open to either.

Because none of you guys actually listen. You talk about that I should find scum and when I bring up good points they're being ignored because "FlOWeR iS ScUM". Also I rather die to a scum ability at night than by lynch out of principle. Lynch should be for scum and not Town.

The only real lead you provided was Lind. Which many people just don't agree with you about being mafia. Some do, but we're keeping that in the back of our minds for later.

If you are going to die tonight anyways, your anger and bitterness for being voted out seems misplaced.
 
I understand that my playstyle irritates people. Can't change it. I don't like being bullied, and I don't like people trying to make false claims to influence others. Law/Tiger is my older brother, imagine why I have such strong feelings about this kind of thing lol. I often am bad at formulating an argument, so it leads to me being frustrated. Apologies to those who find me abrasive, not named Laix or Vanya.



Yes, but once again - you are basing your reads on the assumption that they did know eachother. But since we don't know that they knew eachother based on LG's role, I want to remind you that you are tunneling on a specific idea again. Leave it open to either.



The only real lead you provided was Lind. Which many people just don't agree with you about being mafia. Some do, but we're keeping that in the back of our minds for later.

If you are going to die tonight anyways, your anger and bitterness for being voted out seems misplaced.
Vote him up. That's all I ask of you here.
 
oh yeah honestly I saw that then got distracted I can answer it gimme a sec
I'm just gonna shotgun them out for the most part instead of like, writing a sentence or three about every single one because I have a life

Town:
Andrew
Draekke
Ishmael (can't remember why I town read him yesterday but I'm sure I had a good reason lol)
Mich
Rottkins
Lukundo
Vanya & Vivo Obviously

Notable Nulls / Ignore for now:
AM - Literally can't ever read AM idk hopefully someone kills him or he town confirms himself at some point
Lind
Karma - Eh the push on me is horrendous but I haven't read enough of what they've actually said to get a read on them should probably iso or something

Scum:
Flower
UB
Traveling Swordsman
Laix - A VERY light lean idk I can sorta see where they're coming from but also ew their posts are worst than Lukundo's at points


Besides that there are a couple I'm sheeping like jojo being town from andrew but have no actual opinion on, and probably a person or three I missed tbh
 
Most do

But to answer your question, i wanna solve Draeke and Andrew as soon as possible.

Andrew had weird shit early on with defending Draeke telling us when can ignore him and so on. Likewise he reminds me of a certain playstyle where a player acts like a beacon of stability trying to calm everyone down to make it seem like they are moving game forward. Maybe i am also forgetful but i for the life of me can't remember his actually actively pushing someone to be scum? Can you?

As for Draeke, his entrance to the game was downright bad, he used absurdly weak "reads" to make cases on people that lead nowhere, to me it seemed like someone who is desperate to fit in and establish himself as a townie in a non natural way. That's why i don't trust him, he just tries so fucking hard to be town
Draekke could be part of another faction trying to get town cred. We got lucky with LG at the cost of DDL’s demise.
Draekke tries so hard to look like the reasoned town leader that I had completely forgotten about Draekke bad reads from day 1.
 
I understand that my playstyle irritates people. Can't change it. I don't like being bullied, and I don't like people trying to make false claims to influence others. Law/Tiger is my older brother, imagine why I have such strong feelings about this kind of thing lol. I often am bad at formulating an argument, so it leads to me being frustrated. Apologies to those who find me abrasive, not named Laix or Vanya.
THAT MAKES SENSE NOW. That old fart and I have history, one of the greatest betrayers in mafia history.
 
I'm just gonna shotgun them out for the most part instead of like, writing a sentence or three about every single one because I have a life

Town:
Andrew
Draekke
Ishmael (can't remember why I town read him yesterday but I'm sure I had a good reason lol)
Mich
Rottkins
Lukundo
Vanya & Vivo Obviously

Notable Nulls / Ignore for now:
AM - Literally can't ever read AM idk hopefully someone kills him or he town confirms himself at some point
Lind
Karma - Eh the push on me is horrendous but I haven't read enough of what they've actually said to get a read on them should probably iso or something

Scum:
Flower
UB
Traveling Swordsman
Laix - A VERY light lean idk I can sorta see where they're coming from but also ew their posts are worst than Lukundo's at points


Besides that there are a couple I'm sheeping like jojo being town from andrew but have no actual opinion on, and probably a person or three I missed tbh
I already claimed mate. I don’t know what more you want from me
 
Someone take a shot with me
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I like your play today mate, why shot when there can be shots?
 
honestly the people who didn't do it on d1 at least have some sort of a pass in that like, the lg wagon formed pretty quickly eod so I can get it from a lot of people. I feel anyone who hasn't joined Flower when that's been consensus for like 80% of the day, though, is not in a great spot :lmao

Which is why my main argument was around those who I saw as active at EOD.

Most do

But to answer your question, i wanna solve Draeke and Andrew as soon as possible.

Andrew had weird shit early on with defending Draeke telling us when can ignore him and so on. Likewise he reminds me of a certain playstyle where a player acts like a beacon of stability trying to calm everyone down to make it seem like they are moving game forward. Maybe i am also forgetful but i for the life of me can't remember his actually actively pushing someone to be scum? Can you?

As for Draeke, his entrance to the game was downright bad, he used absurdly weak "reads" to make cases on people that lead nowhere, to me it seemed like someone who is desperate to fit in and establish himself as a townie in a non natural way. That's why i don't trust him, he just tries so fucking hard to be town

I've answered the questions on why I play the way I do. Just because you don't give two shits about being town doesn't mean others don't. I play this game with the full intent to try as much as possible whether I'm town or mafia.

You're so blinded by your hatred towards me that you're going to bring down another good townie. FFS man. I've even tried to help you and you've ignored it.

I do understand your pov, its just not my thing atm. I needed a more compelling case to vote on it than just jumping on the wagon.

Its the same lynch I went for day 1? You would need some more consistency no? A bigger sample size to go off on. Thats a good point but constantly vacillating between lynch pools will obviously alert some keen eyed folks.

Nope, your consistency vote means nothing to me. This game mechanic flips certain normal scumreads and patterns to be invalid. This is one of them. Putting your vote on the same person, even if not on the lynch, does not tell me you're town. Pressure people, vote them during the day to see if they will react or respond. But put your vote on the stack at the end of day, and then start the next day voting your reads again. It's not that hard.

I was fucking told to do sth, now I'm doing sth.

Sorry, but you did do something - you tried to throw Lind under the bus. You went for an easy target, but people disagree with it. You can't keep complaining that people don't agree with you when you use strong reaches for your "evidence."
 
Draekke could be part of another faction trying to get town cred. We got lucky with LG at the cost of DDL’s demise.
Draekke tries so hard to look like the reasoned town leader that I had completely forgotten about Draekke bad reads from day 1.
You're suggesting that there are two mafia in this game? Shizune has stated multiple times that each game starts with one mafia.
 
I had a town lean on Draekke from d1. D2 his play is all over the place, I like he gives us focus to the thread and events but every argument he has is actually mind numbing, there’s very little contribution to any new scum hunting, he’s very present but not particularly novel, and he seems to be very on edge when people pressure him. All this, plus I sometimes get the feeling that he’s constantly paranoid not about other players, but about what people do in relation to him.

Laix and AM are pretty much topping my list too. But i think they’re gonna go away from the lynch again this round lmao
I agree with all this.

still have a town lean, but not as strong as yesterady.

the mechanical info I have still midly points to him. For more context it has to do with Draekke being the only person with a strong town read of me at the time I got the info.
 
Nope, your consistency vote means nothing to me. This game mechanic flips certain normal scumreads and patterns to be invalid. This is one of them. Putting your vote on the same person, even if not on the lynch, does not tell me you're town. Pressure people, vote them during the day to see if they will react or respond. But put your vote on the stack at the end of day, and then start the next day voting your reads again. It's not that hard.
You do realize im not doing what I do to impress or gain your favor. I know how to play, Im just doing my own thing, Ill adapt to the specifics to this game when I see fit. It isnt hard at all, I just do what I want.
 
But since we don't know that they knew eachother based on LG's role
I hate this narrative. We can't conclusively say anything about it other than what was explicitly stated. In this very game, people mention a role madness is unpredictable - and yet others want to say they know for certain how the role works. That's incredibly suspicious behavior. If anything, it indicates to me that people are saying with confidence they knew he was a disconnected wolf and they're trying to divorce people from a useful day 1 vote.

I can't say for certain what it was and what it wasn't, but I know that no one else can other than the scum team themselves and that level of confidence and the discrediting is giving huge wolf vibes.

Seen it happen most of the day and it's something I'm going to be wary of when recombing through the thread.
 

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