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Draekke said:
Quick question for the group - I'm not as learned (cultured) as many of you here are about many of the roles in this game. Can someone with knowledge advise if there is a main character among the roles that has telepathic or some otherwise not normal method of communicating with people - some kind of distance mental communication, or someone who likes to sow seeds of doubt into others through messages?
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Draekke said:
Honestly I think that would be one of the biggest stretches of the game so far to think that Rome is a cult leader. It makes sense that Hades and Mars would be aligned with Rome, from a loose thematic viewpoint. So unless we're thinking that Rome had already converted both Mars and Hades - luckily finding the two most likely roles to be aligned with him, not to mention also randomly being in the same game as him - by Day 2, then I think this is a shot in the dark and chaos spreading at the extreme.

Which is why I feel like someone is setting AM up.
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Since I want to be clear, this is why I'm asking about roles that could message other people. I believe someone is messing with Alwaysmind to get him lynched.
 
Draekke said:
Honestly I think that would be one of the biggest stretches of the game so far to think that Rome is a cult leader. It makes sense that Hades and Mars would be aligned with Rome, from a loose thematic viewpoint. So unless we're thinking that Rome had already converted both Mars and Hades - luckily finding the two most likely roles to be aligned with him, not to mention also randomly being in the same game as him - by Day 2, then I think this is a shot in the dark and chaos spreading at the extreme.

Which is why I feel like someone is setting AM up.
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Understandable, I have seen before joining a cult can alter your role or give you a entire new one but I doubt that would be a mechanic in this game.

Ill look into this further.
 
Saturday said:
This whole post was a waste of time.
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What for? Because you tell us you'll be flipping town? Also, you're not really pivoting to anyone else and just giving up. You do have AlwaysMind as a scum read, but you're not willing to discuss that with others who believe him either.

Draekke said:
Quick question for the group - I'm not as learned (cultured) as many of you here are about many of the roles in this game. Can someone with knowledge advise if there is a main character among the roles that has telepathic or some otherwise not normal method of communicating with people - some kind of distance mental communication, or someone who likes to sow seeds of doubt into others through messages?
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No idea. My submission Shigeo Kageyama from Mob Psycho 100 comes close to this, but he's like a super strong esper more than a telepath.

Draekke said:
Also four hours until votes lock everyone. We need to start making a decision about which person to truly put up for lynch. We have a nearly split four-way tie (without counting, don't @ me if I'm wrong lol) between Laix, Jojo, Alwaysmind, Saturday.

Do we want to split the votes, like JoJo suggested, just vote the way we want to and see where things land? Or do we want to consolidate? Personally I don't enjoy the idea of having a small lynch pool to choose from, for multiple reasons - more places for mafia to hide, and when someone isn't in the lynch pool, it's hard to press them enough to get a reaction.

That being said, it doesn't seem like a large lynch pool has really helped us today, so idk.
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I'd rather not split the votes intentionally. But there is some weight to not enforce a total vote pile up on someone. In the latter case it simply allows scum to sheep the wagon and use that as an excuse, or in this game, use it for town cred by saying "I put myself in the lynch pool" when the lynch pool is just too large at that point.

I believe that was the idea Jojo was heading towards, which would work, but it's hard to instigate artificially.
 
nfcnorth said:
Do I think Saturday is a player looking into yes I do. Am I a fan of the current bandwagon on him? Mixed thought on that honestly mainly because of the reasoning or lack thereof in the push is generic tbh. Idk how to describe it just feels like low effort a bit.
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You're not wrong. The problem is Laix v Jojo really threw a lot of questions into peoples' minds, when at first there was a lot of firm stances. The other part is that because of the lynch pool - or more specifically, the people missing from said pool - we aren't able to press/vote for some of the other people we find more scummy than Saturday. TAC and TS are above Saturday in my scumreads without a doubt. MangoSenpai can be added to that group as well.
 
Draekke said:
I'm... not sure you understood my question.

I'm asking about roles that could be in this game. And I'm talking about Main Characters. Which a D&D Warlock isn't either.
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hm... than idk, I thought that classes might fit since we have abstract characters here as well. From main characters... maybe Yami Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh??? He can break mentality of opponent, unsure about the other aspects of communication. Other is Goku from Dragon Ball but I don't see him use it to manipulate others, he was using it for example when he was in heaven talking with people alive on earth
 
Draekke said:
This is a weird post - if I saw that someone watched the same player as me and got the same results as me, I wouldn't be questioning if that player had some kind of "see what I see" ability, it makes more sense that there are two watchers and that should confirm Ishmael as true to you.

That being said, I have Ishmael as a null read right now, I can't nail down anything. MangoSenpai is one of my scum reads right now.
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The way Ishmael kept kind of using me as a scapegoat or she's not around or doesn't have presence; something irks me about it. It might just be the contradiction of he's using my presence as a way to suspect me, when I simultaneously see him as having little or no presence aside from the build up to this claim.
 
Rottkins said:
hm... than idk, I thought that classes might fit since we have abstract characters here as well. From main characters... maybe Yami Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh??? He can break mentality of opponent, unsure about the other aspects of communication. Other is Goku from Dragon Ball but I don't see him use it to manipulate others, he was using it for example when he was in heaven talking with people alive on earth
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Your posts right now are very confusing to me. We have a role list in the sign up thread. I'm asking, out of the roles that are posted in the sign up thread, can any of them use some kind of distance messaging/psychic speaking? You keep throwing roles out that have nothing to do with the game.
 
Owner Of A Lonely Heart said:
LG's flip in combination with Flower's claim is what sealed the deal as for why I voted Flower there. Originally, Flower was in one of my town lists. I voted for Flower like 30 minutes before votes locked, so it wasn't quite last minute. Even from the start of that day I was thinking that I was probably going to move vote to them.

Do you think staying off wagon is better this game?
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Hmm.. well your vote was on me during the early-ish to middle stages of the day I believe. Also, on a wagon as big as Flower's, I would expect scum to stay on that wagon if you had even some amount of activity in the day phase.

Which is why TAC, TS and Mango and maybe a few others are quite suspicious for staying off it. Being in the lynch pool everyday, though beneficial, is also definitely contextually dependent.


JoJo said:
if the votes are low and we lynch a town we can be pretty sure most of them are scum.
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Maybe. Wouldn't this also depend on the opposing wagon? If the opposing wagon was scum and the wagon lynched was town, then yeah, the lynch pool of the town wagon would be a guilty pool.

But without that knowledge, you could probably be right, but your marginal utility would be affected.
 
Draekke said:
You're not wrong. The problem is Laix v Jojo really threw a lot of questions into peoples' minds, when at first there was a lot of firm stances. The other part is that because of the lynch pool - or more specifically, the people missing from said pool - we aren't able to press/vote for some of the other people we find more scummy than Saturday. TAC and TS are above Saturday in my scumreads without a doubt. MangoSenpai can be added to that group as well.
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Tbf I do think even generic pushes can be spot on but still going to do my due diligence on the wagon.
 
Draekke said:
Your posts right now are very confusing to me. We have a role list in the sign up thread. I'm asking, out of the roles that are posted in the sign up thread, can any of them use some kind of distance messaging/psychic speaking? You keep throwing roles out that have nothing to do with the game.
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:scoobyhuhOk I didn't noticed it, my apologies
 
Draekke said:
Quick question for the group - I'm not as learned (cultured) as many of you here are about many of the roles in this game. Can someone with knowledge advise if there is a main character among the roles that has telepathic or some otherwise not normal method of communicating with people - some kind of distance mental communication, or someone who likes to sow seeds of doubt into others through messages?
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The 2 characters I submitted, though they wouldn't be sowing seeds of doubt. Or I guess that depends on what alignment though; with Ash being mafia I guess it is possible.
 
Lind said:
Hmm.. well your vote was on me during the early-ish to middle stages of the day I believe. Also, on a wagon as big as Flower's, I would expect scum to stay on that wagon if you had even some amount of activity in the day phase.

Which is why TAC, TS and Mango and maybe a few others are quite suspicious for staying off it. Being in the lynch pool everyday, though beneficial, is also definitely contextually dependent.
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I also saw that Flower was voting with me, so that kind of made me leary of staying there.
 
Owner Of A Lonely Heart said:
The 2 characters I submitted, though they wouldn't be sowing seeds of doubt. Or I guess that depends on what alignment though; with Ash being mafia I guess it is possible.
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Hmmm, I would think no to Teyla, since her abilities seem to focus around "wraiths," but Raelle could make some sense here.

So what I'm getting at now, is that we have Alwaysmind - one of the most difficult players to read - bringing up that he received a mystery PM that some little birdie told him that "the HRE has gained another citizen." It's possible - not confirmed or anything - that this could be a message from a telepathic/psychic main character, given that there is at least one role that fits that mold. And what are main characters in this game? Potentially mafia, thanks to the info in LG's role and the fact that Ash Ketchum was in the mafia confirms the info.

I don't think we should be voting Alwaysmind today, folks.
 
nfcnorth said:
First off not sure I would say it's fair to say I am not pushing discussion when I give a group a players who I think honestly provide good insight on people to comment on and it gets ignored despite me posting it twice. Not exactly my fault people are for the most part othern like 2 people are refusing to give comments on mich, rotkins, Karma, Saturday, lunkdo.
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I actually missed this.

Mich - null.
Rott - slight town lean.
Karma - town lean.
Saturday - A read I was very conflicted on as I said last day phase. Sounds genuine, and could be town. But my read tends more to null. And right now, I'm really not sure what to think of them.
Lukundo - Town.
 
nfcnorth said:
Honestly I kind of feel like it's to generic to tell you could make an argument for any tech savy/ magical charcter for it and they might not even have to be tech savvy just be able to access a communication device to count.
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Oh I misread communing as communicating somehow lol. But still think my point stands.

Draekke said:
Which is why I'm also asking about them being main characters. That's an important part of my question.
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Are we talking about main charcters as in like Naruto exclusively or just part of the main cast (Sauske, Kakashi and Sakura). If the later I could see both my submissions working considering Y'shtola is a mage and is a major recurring charcter but the player of ff14 is clearly the main chacter. Lara Croft has a lot of tech gizmos. But if it's communing specifically maybe not so much.
 
nfcnorth said:
Oh I misread communing as communicating somehow lol. But still think my point stands.


Are we talking about main charcters as in like Naruto exclusively or just part of the main cast (Sauske, Kakashi and Sakura). If the later I could see both my submissions working considering Y'shtola is a mage and is a major recurring charcter but the player of ff14 is clearly the main chacter. Lara Croft has a lot of tech gizmos. But if it's communing specifically maybe not so much.
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I would think no to the recurring characters, but that's really hard to say atm. Thanks for the info.
 
MangoSenpai said:
Too bad for u I can't be voted for today :loool

But you literally made the safest claim possible, you watched vanya which ishmael already claimed. So you already know the names, and your n1 target was yourself, which I'd also a safe claim.

And now you're coming in here acting as if you are town leader, lmao.

I don't know about this one chief.
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I'm not a leader. Vanya is one. I don't care if it is safest claim possible. It still remains to be the truth regardless of what you say or do. Why did you wait to say all this later? If you were paying any attention, you did see that I responded fairly quickly to you asking who did I watch night 1. Why would I say exactly what someone else said? There's lie detecting roles in game. So it would be pointless to say anything but the truth.
 
Lind said:
I actually missed this.

Mich - null.
Rott - slight town lean.
Karma - town lean.
Saturday - A read I was very conflicted on as I said last day phase. Sounds genuine, and could be town. But my read tends more to null. And right now, I'm really not sure what to think of them.
Lukundo - Town.
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To add reads to the pile:

Mich - Null - I can't get a read on them. Maybe slightly Scum lean, but barely. many posts seem to be missing the point, or missing info, asking for updates, adding commentary that isn't necessary as its been addressed already.
Rottkins - Slight scum lean. Hasn't been adding a lot to the conversation, missing information, etc.
Karma - slight scum lean as explained in previous post
Saturday - scum lean, as previously stated. Not the first or second person I'd be voting if everyone was in the lynch pool anyways.
The Lukundo - Town town town.
 
Draekke said:
To add reads to the pile:

Mich - Null - I can't get a read on them. Maybe slightly Scum lean, but barely. many posts seem to be missing the point, or missing info, asking for updates, adding commentary that isn't necessary as its been addressed already.
Rottkins - Slight scum lean. Hasn't been adding a lot to the conversation, missing information, etc.
Karma - slight scum lean as explained in previous post
Saturday - scum lean, as previously stated. Not the first or second person I'd be voting if everyone was in the lynch pool anyways.
The Lukundo - Town town town.
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You know what, I'm adjusting Rottkins to null, not scum lean.
 
nfcnorth said:
Do I think Saturday is a player looking into yes I do. Am I a fan of the current bandwagon on him? Mixed thought on that honestly mainly because of the reasoning or lack thereof in the push is generic tbh. Idk how to describe it just feels like low effort a bit.
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I think their day today has been bad. I can't recall the exact post but there was a post he made earlier that if I had the ability to, I would have shot him on the spot. (This is an overreaction but I did want to lynch him for it)
 
Alright i am here, from what i've seen of people quoting me JoJo and Laix are townies based on their roles? Well that doesn't mean MUCH cause lying is a thing in this world. But at least we can keep track of them

also @Laix whats with the voting contest?

Other than that, a lot of people visited me, if protects, i am thankful for that, people pay attention. I didn't get any notification of being attacked so yeah.

Who is the top vagon now?
 
Laix has that role with the ability JoJo said and the ability that Vanya just said.

It makes sense for Vanya's ability to be a wolf one as it can be explained by I was powering them up and it then adds some risk if doing it to a wolf while also maybe lynching a townie.

JoJo's ability can easily be a wolf ability.

The reason Laix is a wolf is cause they lied about it making them lynchproof.

I think that Laix was bluffing to Vanya so Vanya thinks he's immune and asks for votes. This would then get Vanya lynched when he has a lot of votes.

This could easily be bollocks coming out of my mouth but eh
 
Vanya said:
It is a scummy ability, especially since it will downgrade my role for a phase. If he wanted to amp himself he could have targeted anyone else

But like i said - Why do it if i will learn about it?

Unless it is some weird Jester play with fake ability
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based on what i know about his role, it’s probably in his best interest to give the soft confirmed townie a buff. he doesn’t really lose anything himself and it can give him town cred and he never helps another person. it also lets him throw other abilities at you while claiming he only used the one you explicitly saw
 
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