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Ofc you can.sup flower
can i confess to u a secret
Been on holiday, just got back now, seems like I have a bit of reading to do.
i ain’t really following this gameOfc you can.
I am eager to find out if you did hear back.I didn‘t. I‘m waiting for Nitty to send them to me.
How's your vaccay?I didnt really interact with you last day phase, and dont really much of what you did.
anything interesting thoughts so far?
Actually, it used to be a valid strategy 10 years ago when this forum was powered by xenforo. We would be able to see the list of all players who were watching the thread. not just the top 5. Though with the ability to be always logged on, this strategy can be deceiving. I often find that I have this forum open in 5 different tabs on my phone, so while it may look like I am watching the thread, I am not.I don't trust someone who used online activities to push activity and yes I was busy and I didn't manage to catch up
That info isn't as useless as you make it out to be.Anyone who focuses more in the other game can go tbh.
So you can interact with players in Game 2 in another thread because this is what this post of yours implies.Because I find it funny to talk like this
Also because he can't interact with people here he might have a different view on things
Same question to @Natalija
Took you a full cycle to realize this?
I think that you are conveniently forgetting the vig option, that is of course if we even have one.am i town? am i scum?
lynch me, and find out!
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UB's been very inactive. Usually as town and as others have noted, she's much more present and giving inputs and reads as the game progresses. So this play by her is a deviation from her typical town meta.day just started
can you read underworld broker
My head says scum but not for any reason.
Actually you were responding to me when we were scrambling about the lynch. You actually could have voted LG. I recall you responding to TAC as well.Wtf do you want? You even ddin't know what I was doing near EOD and your assumption was I was catching up with the thread last day when in fact I was busy and reread some old posts. That's why using online activities is dumb
Unnecessary paranoia? You're the one against tinfoils here and yet you think voting me, a person who's part of both groups when the rules state that mafia cannot merge is not instigating paranoia?As if should be infallible. This is creating unnecessary paranoia atp. I don‘t know why you think Draekke is such a strong Town read when he was so casually going after Townies here. At least from my pov, with Vanya‘s confirmation as Town, he was willing to go for 3 Townies here and seemingly didn‘t care. So mind expanding on that Town read you have on him?
I'm not sure why it would look worse on him. He only wants your input, plus, by virtue of you not voting on the main wagon, pressure voting won't work on you either.So in fact you didn't know what I was doing yesterday EOD and you are assuming I read all the pages yesterday until the last page. That's a dumb argument you have using online activities. It looks worse on you. Targeting players whose online activities you can see even though you didn't know what they did yesterday near EOD
Not on Vanya for a few reasons:You see, I don‘t understand this. I‘m overjoyed when somebody‘s confirmed or gets cleared. If anything your vote should have been on Vanya rather than on DDL there. Because Vanya could have been scum with TMI, too. But DDL was never scum here. So how does this make any sense?
I must say, I do kinda like this post. Laix is putting himself in the lynch pool knowing full well that he's suspected and may very well get voted off. It might be smart mafia play to do this if he was mafia, but at the same time, I think there's a greater measure of safety for him by staying out of it as mafia.the wagon on flower is set and she has admittedly given up. despite what i personally feel about her alignment, there is nothing i can do
voting for her is putting myself in the ring for the lynch next phase so i can prove a point
Care to elaborate?[Change Vote Lynch Draekke].
Where is that rule? All it says is that Red and Purple are in different games and it will be a multiball later. Nowhere does it say the teams can't merge.Unnecessary paranoia? You're the one against tinfoils here and yet you think voting me, a person who's part of both groups when the rules state that mafia cannot merge is not instigating paranoia?
As stated above there is no such rule, so that isn't unnecessary paranoia. It's a valid point.may be using myself as an example, but flower, this post and your later vote on me are contradictory
Yes, but that Town read was vouching for DDL. So DDL never had a higher chance of flipping scum than Vanya here. Even Andrew agreed that my logic is actually correct here.Others like Andrew, Jojo and myself were reading Vanya as town.
2) Vanya was never going to pick up as the main wagon as opposed to DDL. So if Draekke wanted to consolidate all votes, which he has displayed a lot by his behavior so far, means that he would rather vote on DDL anyway.
Laix is Laix lol. He does odd things at times, so I'm not very concerned about him.Also, his vote wasn't the only one on DDL. Laix did as well whom you town read. What's your opinion on that?
Help me out here, Wad -_-. Who's scum?i ain’t really following this game
or trying
or submitting my actions
hell i barely remember my role
maybe ill try if i live to day 6 and there’s like 20 ppl left
but prob not
Continue reading. It's in the thread.Care to elaborate?
Help me out here, Wad -_-. Who's scum?
You Indie again lol?beats me and i actually don’t care who is and isn’t![]()
Because looking into him has merit. What do you make of him saying there's a rule that Mafia teams can't merge when there's no such thing in the rule post above?@Flower should explain why she is focusing hard on @Lind.
Feels like she wants to figure out how to kill Lind without wasting a kill!
@FLORIDA MAN @Alwaysmind @AndrewGreve @Alibaba Saluja
We see where your mind was on.Bruh she a pornstar
Interesting...I doubt you finish as the lynch. @Flower
[Vote lynch Underworld Broker]i read up to like page 8 (i have 80 posts per page or smth)
and i voted him since it seemed like the main wagon, usually good to have clear target instead of spreading votes
My role gets janitored if I die in one game and is revealed only when I die in both games.Explain what happens if you get killed in one game.
Where is that rule? All it says is that Red and Purple are in different games and it will be a multiball later. Nowhere does it say the teams can't merge.
Dumb posts, Flowa. When the rule states that the teams will function as a multiball and the Red and Purple mafia will be enemies, it is implied that the teams won't merge.As stated above there is no such rule, so that isn't unnecessary paranoia. It's a valid point.
I was searching his post since I was suspicious of himActually you were responding to me when we were scrambling about the lynch. You actually could have voted LG. I recall you responding to TAC as well.
If I had a choice yesterday, I would vote Lord Genome. I didn't catch up with the threadSo to not vote and not be counted among the lynch pool was definitely more of a choice
I only replied to posts who quoted me then I reread back some old posts from previous pages.you were responding to me when we were scrambling about the lynch
I never agree using online activities to push a player rather than using what the players posts to push that player.I'm not sure why it would look worse on him. He only wants your input, plus, by virtue of you not voting on the main wagon, pressure voting won't work on you either.
As scum, you really think he'd go on a meaningless tangent like this rather than focus on the lynch pool itself?
I just disagree if someone uses my online activities to sus me. I'm fine being pushed if the reason is due to my posts.Actually, it used to be a valid strategy 10 years ago when this forum was powered by xenforo. We would be able to see the list of all players who were watching the thread. not just the top 5. Though with the ability to be always logged on, this strategy can be deceiving. I often find that I have this forum open in 5 different tabs on my phone, so while it may look like I am watching the thread, I am not.
But yes, looking at who watches the thread and not posting isn't that untrustworthy of tactic as you make it out to be.
Your reaction to this makes me more sus of you actually.
It says multiball. Aries games also start as multiballs. That doesn't exclude the possibility of there being a potential team merger in any way. It merely implies they will be enemies at some point, not that they have to be enemies forever.My role gets janitored if I die in one game and is revealed only when I die in both games.
Dumb posts, Flowa. When the rule states that the teams will function as a multiball and the Red and Purple mafia will be enemies, it is implied that the teams won't merge.
And if the teams do merge, then I'll automatically be outed and lynched. I'm self resolving later. You're trying to form posts beyond the phrasing of the rules in such a contrived manner.
We should lynch scum today and not meDamn I don't want to vote my Baamsis but the beings from the other world are saying she's scummy
We should lynch scum today and not me.
I'm as pure as I was when I was BaamFrom Alibaba to Ekko how scummy are you Baamsis?
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I'm going to be honest here this post sounded really genuine to me. I like that he himself considers his own read to be null at best and that there isn't anything substantial from him.Probably because there’s nothing to say otherwise.
at best I should be null. None of my post have anything substantial in them so far and I’m just now gearing up to really get in the game.
As I recall - a lynch and a super kill removes all lives. If mafia did have Flower's role completely and decided that a lynch was the best way to get rid of her, then that would also mean they should not be trying the disease ability on her.The second thing I thought of is why would flower be made part of the lynch and killed tonight? But also roleblocked on the night before they say they can confrim themselves? I think their poor play on day 1 made them an obvious target for town players to attack, but considering the amount of attention and the relatively small voter pool of the current lynch, then I could see a scum ability adding them to the list of lynchables to throw people off. especially when that person got sussed a lot the day before.
also we need to remember that everyone has at least 2 lives in the game, so the reason for them being lynched and killed is because if they did get role copped like they said, then someone probably saw that they might have had too many lives to deal with via killing (just like the mars role we saw)
Huh, TAC. If you read enough to want to shoot Prof and town read a few players, how did you miss me explaining my role when I die in like the first 10 pages of the game? I don't know if you're deliberately misrepresenting me here at this point, honestly.It's a very odd decision to make and I wanna know what happens if he gets lynched in one game, is he gone from both?
The idea is so unique and immediately makes me unsure of him.
I literally did answer it in the second game and quite clearly on page 3 and onwards.Also the fact he can't answer the question about what happens if he were to get killed or lynched in one game for sure. Usually the host could just answer you that and I expect Town Lind to clarify this asap.
I share one role between both the games yes. And no to the other question.
Hmm. No. But why do you wanna know about my role here?
I'm as pure as I was when I was Baam.
Why the "believe" here, then?On page 76 right now and my town reads here are:
Jojo
Lukundo
Owner
Draekke
Andrew
Ish
@MangoSenpai I actually didn't quite get why you think Draekke should be a lynch option here. Could you expand on it more?
I'm going to be honest here this post sounded really genuine to me. I like that he himself considers his own read to be null at best and that there isn't anything substantial from him.
I wouldn't expect a mafia to be self-depreciating in this manner while putting on airs of attitude at the same time.
As I recall - a lynch and a super kill removes all lives. If mafia did have Flower's role completely and decided that a lynch was the best way to get rid of her, then that would also mean they should not be trying the disease ability on her.
Because in this regard the disease ability takes place after the lynch attempt. While the lynch may or may not succeed, they'd be wasting 2 valuable resources on her which arguably should be limited shots - putting a player on the lynch platform and bypassing extra lives with an ability stronger than a poison since Flower states that she's going to die tomorrow.
It seems counterintuitive for mafia that has role copped her to do both. Anyway, I did read later that you actually didn't know Vanya did this, but would like to point out my own reasoning nonetheless.
Huh, TAC. If you read enough to want to shoot Prof and town read a few players, how did you miss me explaining my role when I die in like the first 10 pages of the game? I don't know if you're deliberately misrepresenting me here at this point, honestly.
I literally did answer it in the second game and quite clearly on page 3 and onwards.
How can you miss these while still see Ratchet's tinfoil on me? I'm literally just getting the feeling that you're deliberately misrepresenting my posts here.
This sounds like you aren't exactly sure as to why your role gets janitored.Me flipping my town role in one game would immediately confirm me as town in the other game if they haven't been merged so I believe Nitty made sure to janitor my role to avoid that from occurring
How often have you been playing mafia/on NF?
also any specific for your low activity?
Not Vivo diez
@Underworld Broker I don't know if you've posted before, but if you've caught up tell me what you think of TAC, Flower and Draekke. You were eager to see Vanya and Draekke go at each other last day, so if you've read up what's your opinion of it?
Feel free to let me know if you already expanded on this.
[Vote lynch Underworld Broker]
Jumping on bandwagons jsut because everyone is voting for it while not inquiring why is scummy
Always trust in your heartMy heart believes you Baamsis
The voices in my head are saying otherwise lol
Why does a Town need Town cred?Also @Lind making himself eligible as Lynchtarget in both groups should give him a fair amount of towncreds!
Jojo
Lukundo
Owner
Draekke
Andrew
Ish
@MangoSenpai I actually didn't quite get why you think Draekke should be a lynch option here. Could you expand on it more?
Is that gonna work on you?![]()
Well, let‘s say I‘m at a point at which I would gladly just betray Town yet another game with how frustrating this has become. But I‘m not gonna game throw now, so I‘ll at least work on a legacy here.I'm a soft-hearted person
I know the evilness has stained my Baamsis' heart but I hope there's a spark of light buried deep deep in somewhere there
Maybe I don’t like the content or I’m just not as into maf as I thought I’d be? I don’t think quoting me about my thoughts on the entertainment of the game is going to get you anywhere??I haven’t caught up but page number wise, how can 20 pages be a snooze fest?
I also think it encourages bussing to some extent as by just virtue of being in the lynch pool earns you some amount of town cred. But I can see where you're coming from as well. It's a double edged sword.It discourages bussing which is nice and all for solving but it's fucking atrocious for lynch choices.
Oh, Adam stated that DDL's role was powerful. Implying that he knew DDL's role prior to his flip. So I think all 3 of them have access to each others' full roles. So I guess modified masonry might fit them (Are masons only 2 players or more?)If there's mafia, I'd expect partial (they know x mafia and x town exist in the hood) or no information.
if there's only town, i'd expect full (they're all town) or no information.
Could it be a masonry?
Easily.
Should we treat it as such?
Fuck no
I actually think Hidden attempted the opposite (Correct me if I'm wrong, though) I may have forgotten a few of Hidden's posts early in this day, but these posts from him:tried to take credit for startting the lynch on lg(?)
also just fyi it's very likely mafia did not know LG was scum
Actually battles the opposite of taking credit since he says that mafia probably didn't know about LG. I also believe that last day phase Hidden mentioned in a post to me that he only voted LG 'cause that was a wagon gaining momentum.But yeah I'll agree I was fine with any of those people I wasn't actively pushign LG or anythingBut also I did exactly what I said I would lol
Wording in LGs role had me thinking he was honestly working alone in his own way. I don’t think him and his team knew who the other were directly.
LG is usually lynched in D1 from what I can remember older mafia folk saying. I wouldn’t defend him either if I was maf. It’s no point fighting to keep a dead comrade around longer.
These posts by Ish really do make me laugh 'cause he keeps going back and forth on LG having a scum chat or not, but I actually do see that as a townie trait.But then again it’s the fact that they more than likely didn’t know each other.
So eh I wouldn’t really put stock into those who voted gnome
Folks probably voted off of tradition or just needing someone to vote. I’m sure there’s some maf in that wagon that were shocked at what just happened to their member.
I think the approach Luk is taking in the Karma read is that he believes the mafia may have known each other and thus he reads more positively on Karma.Well, it's not the be all end all of how I figure out my leans, it gets added to the other information I have. And given the fact that I believe we got extremely lucky on the LG lynch, I don't think it gives as much credit as you do.
I‘m already getting lynched. Useless comments are useless.@Alibaba Saluja don't vote @Lind that would be stupid. And @Flower keep focusing on Lind makes her a good lynchtarget!!!
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@Alibaba Saluja don't vote @Lind that would be stupid. And @Flower keep focusing on Lind makes her a good lynchtarget!!!
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At the time of the vote, no particular reason other than my superior color of observation.@MangoSenpai I actually didn't quite get why you think Draekke should be a lynch option here. Could you expand on it more?
Eh? I didn't see anyone vote u, as far as I see Drakka is leadingFuck you all tbh.
I hate everyone who switched to the LG for no reasoning, u trying to defend them by arguing "Only town would do it! " does affect how shitty their vote is. Mafia can just as easily sheep the main wagon.@Karma - outside of Alwaysmind, myself, Hidden, AG, Vanya, Flower - which are the majority of people you've mentioned or have shown your reads/leans about - what are your reads? There's quite a few other players to dig into.
What do u make of flower's breakdown when she doesn't have votes on her even?I hate everyone who switched to the LG for no reasoning, u trying to defend them by arguing "Only town would do it! " does affect how shitty their vote is. Mafia can just as easily sheep the main wagon.
I hard town read The Lukundo. Hes actually being inquisitive and giving explanations for his reads.
Vanya is mechanically town i guess
Dont like Shrikes drop in activity. Hes a good player and id like to see more from him.
I like Linds boost in activity, still think hes an indie tho
I will also assume ur mafia if Hidden flips mafia. Ur portrayal of him sounds completely contrary from wut ive seen![]()
I dont think ive ever seen a flower game where she doesnt have a melt down tbhWhat do u make of flower's breakdown when she doesn't have votes on her even?
Or if they are I have missed them
Fair enough, but this one seems weird to me.I dont think ive ever seen a flower game where she doesnt have a melt down tbh
Traveling Swordsman is throwing some dumb tunneling that helps nobody. Waste of time.
a wolf role that uses town lives as shield and shares a neigborhood with uninformed towns is bastard AF
So again no matter what my answer is you will still won't believe me.
I stated my reason and you still won't believe me so once again what answer did you expect from me when you asked that question? no matter what my answer is, you still will push me like this.
Ngl, the amount of times you said "so you still won't believe me" was kinda funny. TS, I believe Draekke just wants you to solve other slots as well.So once again you will still push me no matter what my answer is.
I mean Broki isn't a town read to me, but the reason for the vote here is kinda suspicious AM.[Vote lynch Underworld Broker]
Jumping on bandwagons jsut because everyone is voting for it while not inquiring why is scummy.
Alright.I never agree using online activities to push a player rather than using what the players posts to push that player.
Sorry, but the counterpoint is also true. It doesn't imply that there will be a merger either. In fact there's more of a case for it to not be a merger than for it to be a merger because the rules say so.It says multiball. Aries games also start as multiballs. That doesn't exclude the possibility of there being a potential team merger in any way. It merely implies they will be enemies at some point, not that they have to be enemies forever.
Listen, I'm really done arguing at this point. If tinfoils are what you're going to push me on. Then go ahead.That being said I think the possibility of you having such a role is not very high, but I don't like your defense here as to why you can't have such a role.
I've stated them plenty of times Ali lol. It's in the past 2-3 pages.
The word believe is used to state why my role is designed to be janitored on the first flip. I don't know why Nitty has designed it that way. I clearly state that's the case in the post.This sounds like you aren't exactly sure as to why your role gets janitored.
This posts just pinged me as you being unsure about it. Which is odd since the host could give you clear confirmation regarding that if you are what you claim to be.
Wow. He's talking about it from his perspective. This isn't a good question honestly.Why does a Town need Town cred?
Nah she does have a few votes on her. I mean a player or two put his vote on her at the start of the day itself.What do u make of flower's breakdown when she doesn't have votes on her even?
Or if they are I have missed them
It is a regular ol mason lolI wouldn't be surprised since this is nf and a lot of things are possible, it'll come down to how the other rome person plays and if smth shady is going on, tho would be cool to have @Vanya 's opinion on his mason
I townread Ratchet and Melkor. It would be really dumb to lynch them, IDK about Juan. He seemed funny.
I read a lot of it, well skimmed. I didn't think very hard on group 2 stuff.
Is Group 2 still going on btw? You didn't have a lynch yet?
I don't mind hearing more from @nfcnorth and btw, I do think @Rottkins has a chance to be town. His EoD reads were an attempt that I deem unlikely to come from an absent scum, and going by the fact that he's quite new to mafia, I consider him quite townie tbh.
[Vote execute Mystic Serenade]
[Vote lynch Flower]
Good, no NK! Either a good save or other mechanic, the result is important ^^Nobody died tonight.
Day 2 start
You may now post.
At the time of the vote, no particular reason other than my superior color of observation.
It's just my 6th sense. I mentioned this too when Fuji asked.
I would go more into detail, but I would have to do some more comprehensive reading for that.
Mostly skimmed through today.
Not sure what to make of the travelling swordsman interaction with him tho, but I tend to agree more with Swordsman, assuming his story is true; which I haven't fact checked
Very recent. I believe this favorites is their 6th - 7th ever mafia game. They started only like 3-4 months back. And yes, they tend to get emotional, but his drawings are fun haha. Not really alignment indicative imo.How new is Rottkins / how many games has he played so far? I personally didnt like how emotional some of his posts came off as around eod1 so i had him more as scum lean
Mango is a super active townie and scum. With him I'm never too sure unless he's pushing someone super hard and I have to analyse his reasons for the push.the started from the bottom now we’re here chanteuse is someone whom i wouldn’t necessarily lynch but would definitely ask questions. is he a super active townie or taking the flower situation as an opportunity to power wolf?
he tried it with me and i was thinking of knocking him down a peg
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Mango is a super active townie and scum. With him I'm never too sure unless he's pushing someone super hard and I have to analyse his reasons for the push.
Right now, I'd put him as null for the Draekke read. His "6th sense" push is like guess work. Although he did get it right once, and the respective scum player, Lurko, rage quit by messaging a townie and telling them his teammates outside the game 'cause he thought the only way Mango guessed his alignment was because one of his teammates ratted him out.
Very recent. I believe this favorites is their 6th - 7th ever mafia game. They started only like 3-4 months back. And yes, they tend to get emotional, but his drawings are fun haha. Not really alignment indicative imo.
I liked his drawing, but that's not AI usually.How new is Rottkins / how many games has he played so far? I personally didnt like how emotional some of his posts came off as around eod1 so i had him more as scum lean
This gif was always posted by Pein, like a signature. Are you Pein?the started from the bottom now we’re here chanteuse is someone whom i wouldn’t necessarily lynch but would definitely ask questions. is he a super active townie or taking the flower situation as an opportunity to power wolf?
he tried it with me and i was thinking of knocking him down a peg
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This gif was always posted by Pein, like a signature. Are you Pein?
Well, i couldn't know that, I only saw it at him.he stole it from me. just another wannabe laix
Why do people keep insisting on trying to read sheeping the top wagon as scummy. Is it particularly towny? No not really. But in this setup it actually means nothing due to the lynch mechanics lolI hate everyone who switched to the LG for no reasoning, u trying to defend them by arguing "Only town would do it! " does affect how shitty their vote is. Mafia can just as easily sheep the main wagon.
I hard town read The Lukundo. Hes actually being inquisitive and giving explanations for his reads.
Vanya is mechanically town i guess
Dont like Shrikes drop in activity. Hes a good player and id like to see more from him.
I like Linds boost in activity, still think hes an indie tho
I will also assume ur mafia if Hidden flips mafia. Ur portrayal of him sounds completely contrary from wut ive seen![]()
Alright hi I'm back what did I miss
(inb4 you're revealed scum haha very funny)
You got meur team mustve told u that u got guilty scanned huh