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I really just think flower is scum here very often.

the mediocre play D1 with interactions that felt like play acting at real attempts at game solving. It was literally non-game related posts with "give me a GTH read" sprinkled in. I dont remember flower even commenting on the answers to those questions.

Plus the incessant stalling, starting early d1 when I mentioned I expected more and flower just responded "I'll try later" or something similar, that turned into "I was just planning to claim to clear myself" that turned into "oh geeze can you believe it, my powers didnt work"

today was an appeal to emotion with a self vote, followed by a short spurt of maybe some glimmer of town play, and as soon as the thread moved towards exploring other options as the primary conversation. flower is gone again and empty promises of content left unfulfilled.

I really think, especially for players scum reading flowers d1, flower needs to provide overwhelming townie content to sway the vote, and really I have just seen more play that looks like scum doing the bare minimum to hope to survive
 
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Draekke said:
Care to lead us through your thoughts on Hidden being more so mafia and now you think I'm mafia? What changed other than I looked into Karma and provided many reasons why I disliked their posts and patterns.
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I think you're more mafia now.

Your wordings.

It feels like you're saying townie things to others. Specifically me: with the non bias thing. Yes, I'm still going onto that. But then you have to contradict yourself to excuse your narrative.

The glaring example being:

" Again, I distrust people who don't read the rules, so this coloured my view of Karma early on."

How you were saying to not get into a tunnel makes me feel like, as a town player, you wouldn't let anything cloud your judgement. You'd stick to your set of rules. Yet here, you don't feel like you can properly explain the read without doing something alluding to that.

While as Tonw, you wouldn't give a shit. That's your read, so they can take it or suck on it.

Granted, this is very based on what I think you'd play like. But yeah.
 
Draekke said:
Perhaps instead of complaining about my read on you, you could try and provide something helpful to the thread. All you've done so far today is get upset about why I think you're scummy. What does that help you or anyone else?
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Because you are suspicious of me due to my online activities when you didn't see directly what I did yesterday at my home. I don't mind if you are suspicious of me because of my post.

Also if you didn't notice Shrike posted yesterday near EOD after you mentioned 5 players (including me) not voting for Lord Genome. I didn't know why you ignored him and only singled out those 5 players.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
Because you are suspicious of me due to my online activities when you didn't see directly what I did yesterday at my home. I don't mind if you are suspicious of me because of my post.

Also if you didn't notice Shrike posted yesterday near EOD after you mentioned 5 players (including me) not voting for Lord Genome. I didn't know why you ignored him and only singled out those 5 players.
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Stop it with this. I stated how many times that I am suspicious of you for not switching your vote over. You admitted yourself to being in the thread, so yes I'm judging you harshly for not getting to change your vote prior to the vote locks. It's pretty fucking clear. I don't care if you were on your toilet or fucking in the kitchen, but you were in the thread, reading posts, and decided not to change your vote from TAC to LG, when it was clear we wanted everyone to stack on the same player.
 
Draekke said:
Stop it with this. I stated how many times that I am suspicious of you for not switching your vote over. You admitted yourself to being in the thread, so yes I'm judging you harshly for not getting to change your vote prior to the vote locks. It's pretty fucking clear. I don't care if you were on your toilet or fucking in the kitchen, but you were in the thread, reading posts, and decided not to change your vote from TAC to LG, when it was clear we wanted everyone to stack on the same player.
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That's retarded and dumb yes you didn't see what I did at my home yesterday near EOS so piss off with that reasoning.

You are still ignoring Shrike who was near EOD since he posted after you mentioned those 5 players and he didn't switch his vote to Lord Genome.

You are the most suspicious player here
 
The Lukundo said:
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I think you're more mafia now.

Your wordings.

It feels like you're saying townie things to others. Specifically me: with the non bias thing. Yes, I'm still going onto that. But then you have to contradict yourself to excuse your narrative.

The glaring example being:

" Again, I distrust people who don't read the rules, so this coloured my view of Karma early on."

How you were saying to not get into a tunnel makes me feel like, as a town player, you wouldn't let anything cloud your judgement. You'd stick to your set of rules. Yet here, you don't feel like you can properly explain the read without doing something alluding to that.

While as Tonw, you wouldn't give a shit. That's your read, so they can take it or suck on it.

Granted, this is very based on what I think you'd play like. But yeah.
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What you're missing from my posts is that I NEVER 100% believe anything that anyone says. I take everything with a grain of salt. And I like to provide as much information as possible, so I added that my bias against those who don't read the rules was included in my read. My posting patterns regarding the rules have been very clear, and it bothers me personally when people disrespect the hosts when they don't read the rules of the game they're hosting.

Telling you not to tunnel, because you even admitted it, is different from me explaining a bias. I don't know how to make you understand the difference between what you were doing and what I'm saying here.

You also don't know me, so how would you assume I would play any certain way? Again, this is an example of you coming to a decision, and working your argument around it. *bang head wall*
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
That's retarded and dumb yes you didn't see what I did at my home yesterday near EOS so piss off with that reasoning.

You are still ignoring Shrike who was near EOD since he posted after you mentioned those 5 players and he didn't switch his vote to Lord Genome.

You are the most suspicious player here
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Shrike was not active during the immediate EOD, though. He posts after the votes locked, was not visually online in the thread, and his previous post was 200 posts prior, roughly an hour. I had to cutoff my measuring distance at some point or where do you think I should have stopped? two hours? three?

It's fair to include Shrike in the conversation, but the people I was referring to were around 3-4 pages prior to the votes locking, and that just worked out to not include Shrike. Sorry about that. We could extend it back another hour and include more if you'd like.

None of this, though, excuses you for not placing your vote on LG when you could. Shrike should answer for it too, especially since he even says that everyone should switch their votes to LG and then doesn't himself. But again, You're still sus, even if he is too.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
That's retarded and dumb yes you didn't see what I did at my home yesterday near EOS so piss off with that reasoning.

You are still ignoring Shrike who was near EOD since he posted after you mentioned those 5 players and he didn't switch his vote to Lord Genome.

You are the most suspicious player here
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But you did admit to reading the thread. Sorry, but I don't see how you could be actively reading the thread and not be aware of the vote lock timeframe. And if you are that unaware, then do better as town.

You've got the opportunity to do something useful as town. You literally can't be voted, yet you are still dying on this hill.
 
Draekke said:
Shrike was not active during the immediate EOD, though. He posts after the votes locked, was not visually online in the thread, and his previous post was 200 posts prior, roughly an hour. I had to cutoff my measuring distance at some point or where do you think I should have stopped? two hours? three?

It's fair to include Shrike in the conversation, but the people I was referring to were around 3-4 pages prior to the votes locking, and that just worked out to not include Shrike. Sorry about that. We could extend it back another hour and include more if you'd like.

None of this, though, excuses you for not placing your vote on LG when you could. Shrike should answer for it too, especially since he even says that everyone should switch their votes to LG and then doesn't himself. But again, You're still sus, even if he is too.
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**Correction, Shrike says that its important for everyone to vote on the same person by EOD but then doesn't. He didn't specify LG.
 
Draekke said:
you for not placing your vote on LG when you could.
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How do you know? Did you see what I did yesterday?
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But again, You're still sus, even if he is too.
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You still didn't ask him.
Draekke said:
Shrike was not active during the immediate EOD, though. He posts after the votes locked,
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No he posted after you mentioned 5 players who didn't switch their votes to Lord Genome it's in post number 1.466 before the vote was locked.

You are very suspicious.
 
@Draekke You asked these 5 [players why they didn't vote Lord Genome. Then later you said you didn't give a darn whether I was in the toilet/other places. Then why did you ask in the first place? It seems like no matter what my answer is, your reply would still be the same. It's something you have set up with your scum mates in your scum chat. You are one of the player I want to go right now.

Using online activities to push a player is dumb in the first place.
 
I'm replying to mentions currently and will start catching up now.
Draekke said:
@Lind - hoping to get some of your insight from how Game 2 went, if you can identify any mistakes that were made that got Platinum lynched. I read the thread, but it's not the same as being in it. Had to skim many posts to get through it.
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Platinum to me was scummy for focusing too much on Melkor's meta and then not really focusing elsewhere. I voted him along with a few others. The problem I believe was we had too many wagons and players weren't united in them. And we had players just not caring, or role playing.

And I won't lie, I was getting annoyed with the amount of questions I got on why I was able to post in both groups. To reach for the tinfoil that I'm a role that merges both teams while the rules clearly contradict that is just stupid.

In fact I'm highly suspicious of those actually pushing me here because if their tinfoil is that I'll unite both the mafia teams, then I'm already outed and self resolving because as soon as the threads merge and if the mafia teams combine, then it should be me who triggered it. But at the same time they'd rather vote me out now when I will literally resolve later.

TheAncientCenturion said:
I do not know what to make of @Lind being in both games. @Natalija do you have any views on that? Likewise who do you sus the most in your side? I had a handful of names but I cannot remember much of your game phase atm. So lemme know when your phase starts.
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See, I don't like this. So you don't have your own opinion here and your next best bet is to ask the opinion of someone who already has a negative view on me, lol. This is actually confirmation bias just disguised to look like you're taking a wide array of opinions, when in reality you just want to augment your own points by pointing to someone you know will agree with you.

So, TAC, tell me this - You think I'm mafia that's present in both groups to unite them when the threads merge, when the rules clearly state that it's impossible because of the multiball setup? You think I belong to both factions when they know that this is a multiball and would rather kill me because of the rules thinking I'll turn traitor? Any tinfoil that attempts this doesn't even make sense.

By this logic, I'm either fighting alone in continuous day phases while being hunted by mafia, who you think I should unite, because the rules will confuse them into thinking that I'm a traitor role that'll betray them, or I'm still some super godfather that will break the established rules to unite the mafia teams.

Flower said:
Actually, why don't we test him?

[Change Vote Lynch Lind].

@Lind come here!
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Test me on what?

TheAncientCenturion said:
@Lind what can you tell us about group 2? You're heavily invested in this game so I expect crackfire reads
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If your crack fire reads in this group are:
Me - Because I exist in both groups.
Yourself - For some unknown reason.
Flowa - 'Cause you said that you have a little negative view of her, but would lynch yourself and me before her.

Also, why do you wanna know about group 2? How will knowing my group 2 reads help you here?
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
@Draekke No matter what answer is, you will still push me for not switching to Lord Genome. The way I see it you already set this up in your scum chat. It's very convenient.
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Traveling Swordsman said:
@Draekke You asked these 5 [players why they didn't vote Lord Genome. Then later you said you didn't give a darn whether I was in the toilet/other places. Then why did you ask in the first place? It seems like no matter what my answer is, your reply would still be the same. It's something you have set up with your scum mates in your scum chat. You are one of the player I want to go right now.

Using online activities to push a player is dumb in the first place.
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You have yet to make any kind of read or attempt to help the town today. That is how you will start to look town in my eyes. By acting like fucking town, and not going apeshit when someone sees you doing something scummy.

Your answer to me when I asked what you were doing and why you didn't change your vote, was because you were busy rereading other posts in this thread. That's a pretty lame excuse. You're in the thread, it's near EOD, you knew the votes were locking, and we had talked about how the lynch mechanics work. You're only excuse is you lost track of time while rereading, and you don't think that's a scummy answer? You're far too focused on this activity thing, when you've admitted you were active. You are changing the meaning of my words, throwing other people under the bus, instead of doing something to show you are town. FFS, Flower, the main fucking lynch wagon today is at least acting like they are town. You aren't, period.
 
Draekke said:
You have yet to make any kind of read or attempt to help the town today. That is how you will start to look town in my eyes. By acting like fucking town, and not going apeshit when someone sees you doing something scummy.

Your answer to me when I asked what you were doing and why you didn't change your vote, was because you were busy rereading other posts in this thread. That's a pretty lame excuse. You're in the thread, it's near EOD, you knew the votes were locking, and we had talked about how the lynch mechanics work. You're only excuse is you lost track of time while rereading, and you don't think that's a scummy answer? You're far too focused on this activity thing, when you've admitted you were active. You are changing the meaning of my words, throwing other people under the bus, instead of doing something to show you are town. FFS, Flower, the main fucking lynch wagon today is at least acting like they are town. You aren't, period.
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So again no matter what my answer is you will still won't believe me. Then why did you ask in the first place? What answer did you expect from me when you asked that question?

I'm doing something now and it's asking you this question. If you want to use online activities as an excuse, then I saw you engaged in conversating several minutes ago. Are you scum?
 
Lind said:
I'm replying to mentions currently and will start catching up now.

Platinum to me was scummy for focusing too much on Melkor's meta and then not really focusing elsewhere. I voted him along with a few others. The problem I believe was we had too many wagons and players weren't united in them. And we had players just not caring, or role playing.

And I won't lie, I was getting annoyed with the amount of questions I got on why I was able to post in both groups. To reach for the tinfoil that I'm a role that merges both teams while the rules clearly contradict that is just stupid.

In fact I'm highly suspicious of those actually pushing me here because if their tinfoil is that I'll unite both the mafia teams, then I'm already outed and self resolving because as soon as the threads merge and if the mafia teams combine, then it should be me who triggered it. But at the same time they'd rather vote me out now when I will literally resolve later.


See, I don't like this. So you don't have your own opinion here and your next best bet is to ask the opinion of someone who already has a negative view on me, lol. This is actually confirmation bias just disguised to look like you're taking a wide array of opinions, when in reality you just want to augment your own points by pointing to someone you know will agree with you.

So, TAC, tell me this - You think I'm mafia that's present in both groups to unite them when the threads merge, when the rules clearly state that it's impossible because of the multiball setup? You think I belong to both factions when they know that this is a multiball and would rather kill me because of the rules thinking I'll turn traitor? Any tinfoil that attempts this doesn't even make sense.

By this logic, I'm either fighting alone in continuous day phases while being hunted by mafia, who you think I should unite, because the rules will confuse them into thinking that I'm a traitor role that'll betray them, or I'm still some super godfather that will break the established rules to unite the mafia teams.


Test me on what?


If your crack fire reads in this group are:
Me - Because I exist in both groups.
Yourself - For some unknown reason.
Flowa - 'Cause you said that you have a little negative view of her, but would lynch yourself and me before her.

Also, why do you wanna know about group 2? How will knowing my group 2 reads help you here?
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Appreciate the response and insight. For what its worth, I am definitely on the side of you being town or indy. I agree that the mafia role to supercede his own rules would be rather strange.

[Change Vote Lynch Flower]

Nothing has changed my mind yet to make any of the available options a better vote than Flower.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
So again no matter what my answer is you will still won't believe me. Then why did you ask in the first place? What answer did you expect from me when you asked that question?

I'm doing something now and it's asking you this question. If you want to use online activities as an excuse, then I saw you engaged in conversating several minutes ago. Are you scum?
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I was hoping for something better than an excuse that could easily be a lie. I was looking to see how you'd react, and you reacted like I accused you of murder with all the defensiveness and looping illogic.

No, but I'm active in the thread, discussing things with people, and not blatantly ignoring the EOD lynch mechanic stack.
 
Draekke said:
Why even post then?
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because i can?


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Draekke said:
I was hoping for something better than an excuse that could easily be a lie. I was looking to see how you'd react, and you reacted like I accused you of murder with all the defensiveness and looping illogic.

No, but I'm active in the thread, discussing things with people, and not blatantly ignoring the EOD lynch mechanic stack.
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I stated my reason and you still won't believe me so once again what answer did you expect from me when you asked that question? no matter what my answer is, you still will push me like this.

Discussing with who? Your scum mate because i saw you engaged in a conversation after I called you out
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
I stated my reason and you still won't believe me so once again what answer did you expect from me when you asked that question? no matter what my answer is, you still will push me like this.

Discussing with who? Your scum mate because i saw you engaged in a conversation after I called you out
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Are you new to mafia? You gave me an answer that I consider BS. So of course nothing you continue to lash out at me for the same exact thing is going to change my mind. Bring something else to the table.

For maybe the third or fourth time, bring something to the thread. If you're town, ignore me while you vote me, and dig somewhere else instead of just digging this whole further and further and continuing to distract the thread.
 
Draekke said:
Are you new to mafia? You gave me an answer that I consider BS. So of course nothing you continue to lash out at me for the same exact thing is going to change my mind. Bring something else to the table.

For maybe the third or fourth time, bring something to the thread. If you're town, ignore me while you vote me, and dig somewhere else instead of just digging this whole further and further and continuing to distract the thread.
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So once again you will still push me no matter what my answer is. So what answer did you expect from me when you asked that question? Can you answer this because no matter what my answer is you will still push me like this.

Yeah you are scum. That's what I am bringing here. Engaging in a conversation after I called you out. Who are your scum mates?
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
I stated my reason and you still won't believe me so once again what answer did you expect from me when you asked that question? no matter what my answer is, you still will push me like this.

Discussing with who? Your scum mate because i saw you engaged in a conversation after I called you out
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You, The Lokundo, Lind. You know the people I'm having discussions with that you're reading and engaging in?

If you're referring to seeing my profile and that I was in a private message, a) that's fucked, and b) it was with Nitty in my role PM.
 
Draekke said:
You, The Lokundo, Lind. You know the people I'm having discussions with that you're reading and engaging in?

If you're referring to seeing my profile and that I was in a private message, a) that's fucked, and b) it was with Nitty in my role PM.
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Well you are fucked too using my online activities to push me when you didn't see what I did yesterday at my home. You are scum regardless. it's weird you engaged in a conversation after I called you out.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
So once again you will still push me no matter what my answer is. So what answer did you expect from me when you asked that question? Can you answer this because no matter what my answer is you will still push me like this.

Yeah you are scum. That's what I am bringing here. Engaging in a conversation after I called you out. Who are your scum mates?
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You haven't brought anything else to the table. What else am I supposed to do with what you're posting? Oh I'm sorry you're angry, you must be right?

Lol, yes you've called me out. Ooh. Your logic in this thread has been terrible.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
Well you are fucked too using my online activities to push me when you didn't see what I did yesterday at my home. You are scum regardless. it's weird you engaged in a conversation after I called you out.
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It is regular occurrence to use posting activity and those who are viewing this thread as evidence for activity. Going to someone's profile to spy on them to see if they are in a PM is fucking scummy as you can get.
 
Draekke said:
You haven't brought anything else to the table. What else am I supposed to do with what you're posting? Oh I'm sorry you're angry, you must be right?

Lol, yes you've called me out. Ooh. Your logic in this thread has been terrible.
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You used online activities to push me then I'm doing the same. Your timing to engage in a conversation after I called you out is very convenience. Andrew also defended you yesterday which I found sus.

Draekke said:
It is regular occurrence to use posting activity and those who are viewing this thread as evidence for activity. Going to someone's profile to spy on them to see if they are in a PM is fucking scummy as you can get.
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Posting activity based on the number of post count not by if he/she views a thread which you can see from his/her online activities. You are scum regardless.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
You used online activities to push me then I'm doing the same. Your timing to engage in a conversation after I called you out is very convenience. Andrew also defended you yesterday which I found sus.


Posting activity based on the number of post count not by if he/she views a thread which you can see from his/her online activities. You are scum regardless.
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Dude, stop. This is so weak rn. Please again, keep your vote on me, but do something - ANYTHING else that could provide some benefit for town. What I did was normal. What you admitted to doing was at the very least borderline actually shitty to do as a player of mafia.
 
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Dude, stop. This is so weak rn. Please again, keep your vote on me, but do something - ANYTHING else that could provide some benefit for town. What I did was normal. What you admitted to doing was at the very least borderline actually shitty to do as a player of mafia.
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Using online activities to push a player is shitty. You should push a player based on their posts. If you want to push a player based on his/her online activity then stop bitching when someone does the same thing to you.
 
Vanya said:
I'm gonna give a very unenthusiastic handjob to who ever kills Flower this DP so we can lynch Draeke instead
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I wouldn't go for this if I were anyone else - he's apparently a very dry lover.

Just like with the others I'm calling out in this thread, Vanya - do some fucking work to benefit the town.Stop sitting back like you're king shit because you claimed, were mechanic confirmed... oh right and then completely threw your last teammate under the bus by telling us who they are prior to nearly any pressure on them. If you're town, you'd want to help town win. Do something other than botch and moan because you don't like that I don't back down to you.
 
Draekke said:
I wouldn't go for this if I were anyone else - he's apparently a very dry lover.

Just like with the others I'm calling out in this thread, Vanya - do some fucking work to benefit the town.Stop sitting back like you're king shit because you claimed, were mechanic confirmed... oh right and then completely threw your last teammate under the bus by telling us who they are prior to nearly any pressure on them. If you're town, you'd want to help town win. Do something other than botch and moan because you don't like that I don't back down to you.
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meant to say bitch and moan, but botch works nicely in context here.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
You used online activities to push me then I'm doing the same. Your timing to engage in a conversation after I called you out is very convenience. Andrew also defended you yesterday which I found sus.


Posting activity based on the number of post count not by if he/she views a thread which you can see from his/her online activities. You are scum regardless.
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AndrewGreve is one of my biggest town reads. Many others agree. Why is he sus to you because he gets a town read from me?
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
Defending player on D1 is suspicious and you using online activities to push a player doesn't help your case.
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Yeah see I'm going to now ignore everytime you mention this about not liking using online activities. I've come to peace with the fact that you don't like it.

Really isn't that suspicious if you have a strong town read on each other. We were in sync nearly all of D1, and really most of D2 aside from one thing. But alright. What other reads do you have to share?
 
Draekke said:
I wouldn't go for this if I were anyone else - he's apparently a very dry lover.

Just like with the others I'm calling out in this thread, Vanya - do some fucking work to benefit the town.Stop sitting back like you're king shit because you claimed, were mechanic confirmed... oh right and then completely threw your last teammate under the bus by telling us who they are prior to nearly any pressure on them. If you're town, you'd want to help town win. Do something other than botch and moan because you don't like that I don't back down to you.
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See unlike you I don't need to try very hard to appear townie. Even before my claim I was read to be town by a lot of people

You on other hand do whatever you can to appear townie while fucking up on simplest of things. You aren't a natural town, you try to be one. You stink of fakery, you keep arguing with everyone left and right making the thread a bore to read.

The only real person vouching for you is Andrew and that's it, that is the sum of your township so far.

You pick and choose who you wanna push while blatantly ignoring people like TAC and Shrike.

To me you are scum, and i won't waste a second of my time arguing with you cause it would lead this thread down into a shit spiral
 
Draekke said:
Yeah see I'm going to now ignore everytime you mention this about not liking using online activities. I've come to peace with the fact that you don't like it.

Really isn't that suspicious if you have a strong town read on each other. We were in sync nearly all of D1, and really most of D2 aside from one thing. But alright. What other reads do you have to share?
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Nobody is confirmed D1.

I don't mind lynching The Ancient. Flower will die N3 due to poison. Someone else can vig here. Only Vanya is town lean.
 
Vanya said:
See unlike you I don't need to try very hard to appear townie. Even before my claim I was read to be town by a lot of people

You on other hand do whatever you can to appear townie while fucking up on simplest of things. You aren't a natural town, you try to be one. You stink of fakery, you keep arguing with everyone left and right making the thread a bore to read.

The only real person vouching for you is Andrew and that's it, that is the sum of your township so far.

You pick and choose who you wanna push while blatantly ignoring people like TAC and Shrike.

To me you are scum, and i won't waste a second of my time arguing with you cause it would lead this thread down into a shit spiral
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What simple things am I fucking up, in your mind? Nice to say it and not provide examples.

I am only arguing so much because every couple of hours another person starts to drill into me with BS. So I've had to defend myself from multiple people focusing pretty much only on me the entire day lol. I agree it's bringing the thread down, but I'm not just going to back down and give up when I'm in the right and town. Should I back down? Should I fall over at the mention of someone disliking how I post or not agreeing with my logic? Would that show as town any better than not backing down from my stance? I don't think so.

I didn't ignore TAC, and I explained my reasoning as to why Shrike wasn't on my list. Even TS backed down from that one once I showed him when it was that Shrike posted. And then I also questioned him. What would you like from me here?
 
Draekke said:
So you're saying after 2500+ posts, your only town lean is one person who is confirmed town? What is this style of town that you play?
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I only see a person as town once it is confirmed by action. Vanya and Vivo. I already said who I want to lynch. Don't nitpick what I said
Draekke said:
Never said otherwise. But having town reads/leans/those you "core" with or whatever, is quite normal.
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It's not normal when he defended you so hard and you were not confirmed by action.
 
Vanya said:
See unlike you I don't need to try very hard to appear townie. Even before my claim I was read to be town by a lot of people

You on other hand do whatever you can to appear townie while fucking up on simplest of things. You aren't a natural town, you try to be one. You stink of fakery, you keep arguing with everyone left and right making the thread a bore to read.

The only real person vouching for you is Andrew and that's it, that is the sum of your township so far.

You pick and choose who you wanna push while blatantly ignoring people like TAC and Shrike.

To me you are scum, and i won't waste a second of my time arguing with you cause it would lead this thread down into a shit spiral
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Going down this path will only lead you to killing yet another townie. And when I flip town, you'll just sit there like a pig in shit, and say "well, well, I didn't like how he posted," and coast until you are finally killed by the mafia. GG. You win I guess.
 
Draekke said:
I am only arguing so much because every couple of hours another person starts to drill into me with BS. So I've had to defend myself from multiple people focusing pretty much only on me the entire day lol. I agree it's bringing the thread down, but I'm not just going to back down and give up when I'm in the right and town. Should I back down? Should I fall over at the mention of someone disliking how I post or not agreeing with my logic? Would that show as town any better than not backing down from my stance? I don't think so.
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How about instead of fucking defending yourself - to which you accused me for last DP to be scummy - you actually explore other possibilities that don't require someone to accuse you first?
 
Vanya said:
How about instead of fucking defending yourself - to which you accused me for last DP to be scummy - you actually explore other possibilities that don't require someone to accuse you first?
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Go through the thread and you'll see the reads I put out. There hasn't been much more activity since I put my reads list up, aside from TS pinholing on me, or The Lukundo, or Flower. Seriously all day today has been me needing to fend off attacks, and then prove them to be wrong.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
I don't buddy buddy that easy especially with unconfirmed town. What do you think of The Ancient? Lind made a good post of him
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I've already talked about him, but OK. D1 early I felt he was on the same page as me and AG - trying to progress the game by being active and nonfluffy for the most part. Trying to prod people for information, etc. But he fell a bit inactive in the middle, and didn't really supply a lot more info when he came back to the thread. I liked that he put his vote on the LG lynch, so that he was available for today's lynch.

I disliked how much he focused on the other thread, tbh. Good to be caught up, but to dive too deep is folley or misdirection.

At best I have him town side of null, but that can change pretty easily since there hasn't been too much substance from him today.
 
Lind said:
I'm replying to mentions currently and will start catching up now.

Platinum to me was scummy for focusing too much on Melkor's meta and then not really focusing elsewhere. I voted him along with a few others. The problem I believe was we had too many wagons and players weren't united in them. And we had players just not caring, or role playing.

And I won't lie, I was getting annoyed with the amount of questions I got on why I was able to post in both groups. To reach for the tinfoil that I'm a role that merges both teams while the rules clearly contradict that is just stupid.

In fact I'm highly suspicious of those actually pushing me here because if their tinfoil is that I'll unite both the mafia teams, then I'm already outed and self resolving because as soon as the threads merge and if the mafia teams combine, then it should be me who triggered it. But at the same time they'd rather vote me out now when I will literally resolve later.


See, I don't like this. So you don't have your own opinion here and your next best bet is to ask the opinion of someone who already has a negative view on me, lol. This is actually confirmation bias just disguised to look like you're taking a wide array of opinions, when in reality you just want to augment your own points by pointing to someone you know will agree with you.

So, TAC, tell me this - You think I'm mafia that's present in both groups to unite them when the threads merge, when the rules clearly state that it's impossible because of the multiball setup? You think I belong to both factions when they know that this is a multiball and would rather kill me because of the rules thinking I'll turn traitor? Any tinfoil that attempts this doesn't even make sense.

By this logic, I'm either fighting alone in continuous day phases while being hunted by mafia, who you think I should unite, because the rules will confuse them into thinking that I'm a traitor role that'll betray them, or I'm still some super godfather that will break the established rules to unite the mafia teams.


Test me on what?


If your crack fire reads in this group are:
Me - Because I exist in both groups.
Yourself - For some unknown reason.
Flowa - 'Cause you said that you have a little negative view of her, but would lynch yourself and me before her.

Also, why do you wanna know about group 2? How will knowing my group 2 reads help you here?
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Explain what happens if you get killed in one game.
 
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