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Draekke said:
If they were fully informed, that implies they would know their masonmates are mafia for your theory to be right?
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If there's mafia, I'd expect partial (they know x mafia and x town exist in the hood) or no information.

if there's only town, i'd expect full (they're all town) or no information.

Could it be a masonry?

Easily.

Should we treat it as such?

Fuck no
 
Draekke said:
What I can tell your biggest scum read on him is that he switched his vote from Ish to LG late in the day phase?
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Sorta, he usually has more presence as town and actually "pokes/prodes" ppl like u described him to be doing so

Even wen he did show up today he just talked abt the LG flipped, the mechanics and tried to take credit for startting the lynch on lg(?)
 
The Lukundo said:
I'm saying it's preflip
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For the same reason I didn't vote Vanya because my town reads were all saying Vanya was town. If this is what you call preflip, then yes I did, and I will continue to use this info. I don't think its a 100% thing or whatever, but it helps me make my decisions on someone when the opinions of people I've already gotten a read on lean that way.

You thinking you know the answer to the solution, and therefore start looking at it from that angle is much worse in my mind. The way you preconceive what their posts are going to mean, means you have a slight bias towards you being correct, which means you might reach to find things that aren't actually there.
 
Karma said:
Sorta, he usually has more presence as town and actually "pokes/prodes" ppl like u described him to be doing so

Even wen he did show up today he just talked abt the LG flipped, the mechanics and tried to take credit for startting the lynch on lg(?)
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Well I'm not going to put any scum read on someone when we were literally asking everyone to change their votes. He actually listened, which put his name in the lynch pool today. There are over a dozen townies at least who chose not to do this, and it hurts town.
 
Draekke said:
For the same reason I didn't vote Vanya because my town reads were all saying Vanya was town. If this is what you call preflip, then yes I did, and I will continue to use this info. I don't think its a 100% thing or whatever, but it helps me make my decisions on someone when the opinions of people I've already gotten a read on lean that way.

You thinking you know the answer to the solution, and therefore start looking at it from that angle is much worse in my mind. The way you preconceive what their posts are going to mean, means you have a slight bias towards you being correct, which means you might reach to find things that aren't actually there.
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Alright, I get what you're saying

HOWEVER

It still isn't applying where you're thinking it's applying
 
The Lukundo said:
Alright, I get what you're saying

HOWEVER

It still isn't applying where you're thinking it's applying
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Explain what you mean by this then? I've provided a few good reasons based on your own post as to why Hidden doesn't seem town to me. And I think you might be tunneling on him. Just trying to help you focus on the rest of the players and hopefully you don't get stuck on your preconceived ideas.
 
Draekke said:
Explain what you mean by this then? I've provided a few good reasons based on your own post as to why Hidden doesn't seem town to me. And I think you might be tunneling on him. Just trying to help you focus on the rest of the players and hopefully you don't get stuck on your preconceived ideas.
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You said it applied to my SR of P#1085 but that was my first read.

How was that gonna be tunneled or bias when that's where I got the first read.

I didn't have a read before then.

I was null on him
 
The Lukundo said:
we hate this
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No, i just thought it was bizzare that wen Vanya asked who started the wagon on lg he brought up that he had the first vote on lg in the entire dp despite it having very little to do with actual wagon that formed an hr before votes closed.

Draekke said:
Well I'm not going to put any scum read on someone when we were literally asking everyone to change their votes. He actually listened, which put his name in the lynch pool today. There are over a dozen townies at least who chose not to do this, and it hurts town.
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I understand ur logic but im not sure i agree with it

Scum can just as easily use it to sheep
 
Draekke said:
To me it looks more like you're deciding on something and then trying to prove it right. You've already said as much earlier when you said that you wished you were right about something that we told you you were wrong about. Try not to do this, as you'll start to see things in the view of your assumption. Some kind of bias, I can never remember which ones are which.
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This is about my read on P#1085
 
Karma said:
No, i just thought it was bizzare that wen Vanya asked who started the wagon on lg he brought up that he had the first vote on lg in the entire dp despite it having very little to do with actual wagon that formed an hr before votes closed.


I understand ur logic but im not sure i agree with it

Scum can just as easily use it to sheep
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Yes, but then they risk being in the lynch pool. If you put yourself into the lynch pool, you are at least helping town with a larger pool to lynch from. I'm not saying it means his town, I'm just saying I disagree that it makes him mafia. Could be anything.
 
The Lukundo said:
I think my first reason, P#1085 still stands and how they came into today trying to claim credit backs up the SR.

Granted, my second reason about willing to sheep onto top wagon is demolished after even giving the lynch mechanic a glance tho
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We're going to go around in circles here. We can disagree on our reads, that's fair. Just extending the conversation that you asked me to provide you with details that we disagreed on.
 
Traveling Swordsman said:
No body defended Lord Genome yesterday if I remember. Looks like Lord Genome and his partners didn't know each other
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ngl i did

i was actually anti lg vote because i thought we were being coaxed into a mislynch and i forgot why but i didn’t feel good about ish and it felt like as soon as we started voting for him the game double downed on lg

i still feel a bit strange on ishmael but my memory isn’t good enough to tell me why.
 
The Lukundo said:
Lind/Vanya/Karma
Owner/Flower
JoJo
Mich/AG
NULL
Draekke/Hidden
AM
Laix
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Vanya
AndrewGreve
JoJo/The Lukundo
Hidden
Admiral Fujitora
Lind**
NULL
Legend
TravelingSwordsman/Karma
Alwaysmind/Laix

That's about what I've got so far. Some slight leans on others.

Vanya - Obviously I believe him to be mechanically confirmed.
AndrewGreve - D1 he and I were on the same mindset, same reads. He is also digging and prodding, which I like to see.
JoJo - D1 I had a slight scum lean on JoJo, which part of that was due to their decision not to read the rules and role. This has since been fixed, and they have been helpful in the thread. Plus I believe the Laix v JoJo scene to be genuine, and I have Laix scum read
The Lukundo - you've been doing a lot of hunting and questioning. You are heavy town read right now, but I feel like you are getting ahead of yourself a bit. But keep up hunting, it's how town wins.
Hidden - asked and answered
Admiral Fujitora - Just seems genuine, slightly helpful, seems to want to progress things in the right way.
Lind** - I just can't seem them being mafia. I have them on town side of null, because I can't discount an indy role though. They have been very calm and collected, I enjoy reading their posts and agree with most of what they are saying.
Legend - Haven't heard from him yet today, and I'd like to hear why he left his vote on the wrong lynch yesterday.
TravelingSwordsman - D1 I had a town lean, but his vote and excuse and defensiveness of his excuse put him into my scum lean
Karma - I dislike their reason for voting JoJo. Not a ton of posts, and not exactly providing a ton of info.
Alwaysmind - I just really don't like his D1, very fluffy, and not really helping a ton. His vote being left on Karma instead of on LG doesn't sit right, and his reason for it was rather limp duck.
Laix - D1 play was very chaotic, not contributing, not reading. D2 started out much the same, then at least got into some conversations, but many of them ended with Laix saying "don't think I'm town, do something about it" or "lynch me then," when full well knowing that we'd have to waste town abilities to do so because he intentionally left himself out of the lynch pool. His arguments with JoJo to me aren't right, and his Underworld Broker waffling was also sus.
 
The Lukundo said:
Guessing bussing ain't common here?
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It’s very common.
Wording in LGs role had me thinking he was honestly working alone in his own way. I don’t think him and his team knew who the other were directly.
The Lukundo said:
Before I do dip tho, Ish, you've reacted to 2 of my posts that were sent hours ago.

You good there, boss?
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problem?
 
LG is usually lynched in D1 from what I can remember older mafia folk saying. I wouldn’t defend him either if I was maf. It’s no point fighting to keep a dead comrade around longer.

Not gonna lie. Threads a snooze fest. I tried genuinely looking into things but it’s either just genuine lack of interest in this game or the atmosphere killed what interest I did have.

Again I do like jojo. Giving reads without being asked and putting their thoughts out there while also pushing folks. Town read but not sold as no one is ever what they appear in these games.

don’t care for the back and forth that posters are having. Seems like constant poking and prodding about the same topics. Probably because it’s only a few posters actively posting but yeah.

I never cared for anything other than being scum and I’m happy I’m not scum because I would’ve sold my teammates. More activity from others/new points and something that pings me will get the way I play town going.

Also [unvote]
 
Ishmael said:
LG is usually lynched in D1 from what I can remember older mafia folk saying. I wouldn’t defend him either if I was maf. It’s no point fighting to keep a dead comrade around longer.

Not gonna lie. Threads a snooze fest. I tried genuinely looking into things but it’s either just genuine lack of interest in this game or the atmosphere killed what interest I did have.

Again I do like jojo. Giving reads without being asked and putting their thoughts out there while also pushing folks. Town read but not sold as no one is ever what they appear in these games.

don’t care for the back and forth that posters are having. Seems like constant poking and prodding about the same topics. Probably because it’s only a few posters actively posting but yeah.

I never cared for anything other than being scum and I’m happy I’m not scum because I would’ve sold my teammates. More activity from others/new points and something that pings me will get the way I play town going.

Also [unvote]
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But then again it’s the fact that they more than likely didn’t know each other.
So eh I wouldn’t really put stock into those who voted gnome

Folks probably voted off of tradition or just needing someone to vote. I’m sure there’s some maf in that wagon that were shocked at what just happened to their member.
 
Shizune said:
Day 2 lynch candidates

Since @Lord Genome was lynched yesterday, everyone who ended the day voting for him is eligible for lynching today.

@Admiral Fujitora
@AndrewGreve
@Draekke
@Flower
@Hidden
@JoJo
@Karma
@Lind
@Mich
@Rottkins
@TheAncientCenturion
@Underworld Broker

Day 2 execution candidates

These are the 4 lowest post count players at the start of day 2.

@Atlantic Storm
@MangoSenpai
@Vivo Diez
@~Mystic Serenade~

The commands are [vote lynch X] and [vote execute X], respectively.

While we're on the subject of unique game mechanics, this is a friendly reminder that you all have a one-use Flash which can greatly augment you abilities. Consult the "special mechanics" part of the OP for more details!

Day 2 starts in 2 hours

Do not post yet​
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voting flower again probably by the end of D2.


nothing sticks out from her honestly. She’s kind of cool towards Drakke which is cute but it’s familiar flower play imo. Tucked tail when the heat comes on. Probably cleaned up that being all
Over the place damn near meltdown thing.

I don’t like her out the list that can be lynched but we have forever to figure something out.

Don’t recall others post to much but that’s a good thing in this case. Rather spot and vote a poster that’s leaving a bad taste in my mouth than one I can’t get a readon.

Mango senpai is active and I like mystic when he actually plays. It’ll be interesting to see if activity picks up or not.

love Atlantic in NBD(shout out to you OG) but don’t know of his maf play and don’t care.

i think I saw vivo pop up? And he’s nice when he decide to contribute

[Vote execute Atlantic Storm]
 
Ishmael said:
LG is usually lynched in D1 from what I can remember older mafia folk saying. I wouldn’t defend him either if I was maf. It’s no point fighting to keep a dead comrade around longer.

Not gonna lie. Threads a snooze fest. I tried genuinely looking into things but it’s either just genuine lack of interest in this game or the atmosphere killed what interest I did have.

Again I do like jojo. Giving reads without being asked and putting their thoughts out there while also pushing folks. Town read but not sold as no one is ever what they appear in these games.

don’t care for the back and forth that posters are having. Seems like constant poking and prodding about the same topics. Probably because it’s only a few posters actively posting but yeah.

I never cared for anything other than being scum and I’m happy I’m not scum because I would’ve sold my teammates. More activity from others/new points and something that pings me will get the way I play town going.

Also [unvote]
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I haven’t caught up but page number wise, how can 20 pages be a snooze fest?
 
The Lukundo said:
Karma saying D1 they were anti AM. Someone you have as wolf.

Being IMO, the main driving force for that LG lynch yesterday.

I'll be honest, I didn't have a read on them before the catchup so I get you saying lacking in posts, but when they did post, they have decent scumreads.

You being someone who is fine with doing that association read shit, why do you still have Karma as mafia?
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Well, it's not the be all end all of how I figure out my leans, it gets added to the other information I have. And given the fact that I believe we got extremely lucky on the LG lynch, I don't think it gives as much credit as you do.

Honestly what I've seen from Karma, without doing a search, has been just light posting, seemingly very chill and not really adding too much aside from dropping a question now and again. Hasn't been much to read. Will do a search now.

Early, I can see she first put the pressure on LG after three posts of his, fairly early in the day phase before it became all too obvious he was going to stay under the radar, and didn't give any reasoning for saying we should lynch him. Seemed more like a meme vote than anything.

Seemed to think Shizune would manipulate AG's role because he doesn't like him? That's a strange thing to say when Shizune has stated multiple times it was all RNG. Again, I distrust people who don't read the rules, so this coloured my view of Karma early on.

Second time Karma mentioned LG vote on Post 932, still had no reasoning to give. Up to this point, they posted 13 times, with only two posts that related to anything game wise or substantial (mostly just fluff posting and posting the stoner gif lol). Didn't like the DDL vote, so points there.

Keeps falling back on the vote switching, but again this is different in this game. Vote switching to the stack is a good thing.

Wasn't until post 1060 that Karma actually voted LG.

That was the majority of Karma's interactions D1.

Most of Karma's posts on D2 have been discussing their thoughts on swapping votes from Ish to LG, even though that was the correct play as town - and then voted Hidden for that reason. Aside from a couple of short discussion posts with AG and myself, the rest of their posts were voting Hidden and trying to gain more traction on that vote. Mentioned the Flower vote once, mentioned Alwaysmind being a bit scummy.

I honestly don't see a lot of content, aside from interactions with just a few people. All of this puts me on a scum lean, regardless their viewpoint of another player I'm scumreading. Also we do have indies, so it's possible for me to read them both anti-town and not both mafia.

@Karma - outside of Alwaysmind, myself, Hidden, AG, Vanya, Flower - which are the majority of people you've mentioned or have shown your reads/leans about - what are your reads? There's quite a few other players to dig into.
 
Ishmael said:
voting flower again probably by the end of D2.


nothing sticks out from her honestly. She’s kind of cool towards Drakke which is cute but it’s familiar flower play imo. Tucked tail when the heat comes on. Probably cleaned up that being all
Over the place damn near meltdown thing.
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Noted, btw - I'm not pulling any pressure from Flower, I'd just rather see her do something with her last day, so I agreed to dig into people with her. Vote is still going to be with the stack, even if that's Flower.
 
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