Game Favorites '22 - GROUP 1

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also, since it hasn't been addressed yet, but what's the usual ratio of Town in a game this big?

Low.

 

[Hidden]

Ultra and AM are never partners NICE

btw this is a real read not a joke read

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Just assume that 25% of the playerbase is scum since that's the typical ratio. So around 9-11 scum as estimate would be a good call until proven otherwise.

I'm assuming about 25 scum, including the indies.

 

[Flower]

@Ultra fr now, do you have any first impressions?

 

[青月光]

We're already on 9 pages damn

 

[Flower]

I'm assuming about 25 scum, including the indies.

That sounds like a lot of work.

 

[青月光]

Why is the game divided in 2 btw?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Lukundo is practically an innocent child, never lynch.

 

[Alwaysmind]

who is Andrew ?

A player in this game. His full username is @AndrewGreve

 

[Flower]

Why is the game divided in 2 btw?

To make it more playable and less chaotic. Just imagine 70 players playing in one thread.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

That sounds like a lot of work.

Favs 5 had 50% town, but that game had 3 scum factions. This one has 2, so I expect between 60% and 70% town

The more scum factions, the less townies.

The more powerful roles are overall, the less townies.

 

[Alwaysmind]

Why is the game divided in 2 btw?

Too many players to have it balanced properly is my guess. There were dome pretty wild suggestions as always this year.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I made the mistake of deciding to play this and a game of survivor at the same time so I'm barely reading until it dies down a bit

You are trying hard as a survivor?

Just claim and do nothing until you win ez.

 

[Alwaysmind]

To make it more playable and less chaotic. Just imagine 70 players playing in one thread.

That and it’s easier for players to read 30 pages then 70.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

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[Flower]

Favs 5 had 50% town, but that game had 3 scum factions. This one has 2, so I expect between 60% and 70% town

The more scum factions, the less townies.

The more powerful roles are overall, the less townies.

I just hope there's no team merger like in Aries games. Stuff like that is so annoying to deal with.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

how new is LG?

He saw the precambrian explosion.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Caught up. As in, my eyes saw every post but my brain proccessed maybe 30% of them.

AMA.

 

[Hidden]

You are trying hard as a survivor?

Just claim and do nothing until you win ez.

Oh no I meant like, the show survivor

 

[Flower]

Caught up. As in, my eyes saw every post but my brain proccessed maybe 30% of them.

AMA.

What are your first impressions?

 

[Lord Genome]

how new is LG?

This is my first game, can you give me pointers?

The one they told you to vote or the one who told you to?

Either or prob depends who asks tbh

 

[Hidden]

Caught up. As in, my eyes saw every post but my brain proccessed maybe 30% of them.

AMA.

How's your day been

 

[青月光]

To make it more playable and less chaotic. Just imagine 70 players playing in one thread.

This seems pretty mild right now ngl

 

[青月光]

Too many players to have it balanced properly is my guess. There were dome pretty wild suggestions as always this year.

Chaos >>>

But I can see why

 

[Flower]

This seems pretty mild right now ngl

I like it better this way .

 

[青月光]

I like it better this way .

It feels like a normal RM

 

[青月光]

I have more posts than the host

Finally peace of mind

 

[Flower]

It feels like a normal RM

Btw we can also read the other group thread and tell the players from there what we think .

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What are your first impressions?

Nobody really jumps my eyes as scum (I'm not great at reading ppl).

Draekke is okay-ish but not that hard for scum to fake. Lukundo is more organic. Not sure about Andrew my vote is kind of a placeholder. Everybody else is mostly fluffing or didn't catch my radar so I dunno.

When are the host posts full of actions gonna start? This is Favs not vanillafia.

 

[Flower]

Nobody really jumps my eyes as scum (I'm not great at reading ppl).

Draekke is okay-ish but not that hard for scum to fake. Lukundo is more organic. Not sure about Andrew my vote is kind of a placeholder. Everybody else is mostly fluffing or didn't catch my radar so I dunno.

When are the host posts full of actions gonna start? This is Favs not vanillafia.

So you have no opinion on the top posters yet?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

How's your day been

Kinda tiring, but that's how my new job has been. I like having it, though, it's close to me hometown. And I have this coworker I totally have a crush on who sits by my side, so things are interesting.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

So you have no opinion on the top posters yet?

Who are the top posters again ? The rome guy and alwaysmind, I think?

Imagine having an early opinion on AM.

 

[Flower]

Who are the top posters again ? The rome guy and alwaysmind, I think?

Imagine having an early opinion on AM.

Me, Vanya and AM, yes.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I did not check the list of top posters before saying that. So I guessed the 2nd and 3rd (Vanya and AM).

So Flower is the first, huh. I don't remember thinking anything about you, though. Now I'm suspicious. Feels like you have been kinda participating but kinda fluffling at the same time.

 

[Flower]

I did not check the list of top posters before saying that. So I guessed the 2nd and 3rd (Vanya and AM).

So Flower is the first, huh. I don't remember thinking anything about you, though. Now I'm suspicious. Feels like you have been kinda participating but kinda fluffling at the same time.

That's how I roll .

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

That's how I roll .

I havent played a lot with you but last I did you were a huge tryhard.

 

[Flower]

I havent played a lot with you but last I did you were a huge tryhard.

That was prob the previous owner of this account .

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

That was prob the previous owner of this account .

 

[Flower]

That's a Favs XI joke lol. Apparently my play style is so different now than it was 2 years ago that Andrew said I must be a different person.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

That's a Favs XI joke lol. Apparently my play style is so different now than it was 2 years ago that Andrew said I must be a different person.

Do you still go out of your way to find loopholes in rules that cause a huge headache for whoever is hosting you

 

[Flower]

Do you still go out of your way to find loopholes in rules that cause a huge headache for whoever is hosting you

Always .

 

[Shizune]

Do you still go out of your way to find loopholes in rules that cause a huge headache for whoever is hosting you

Well DDL, if there are no loopholes, Flower can't find any now can she?

Maybe it was a... hosting error.

 

[Lord Genome]

Btw we can also read the other group thread and tell the players from there what we think .

Can you

Granted your out of your mind if you think I'm keeping up with two games at the same time, I can't handle that in my age

 

[Lord Genome]

Hell if I keep up with this game I'll consider it a win

 

[Flower]

Can you

Granted your out of your mind if you think I'm keeping up with two games at the same time, I can't handle that in my age

Come on, LG, you can dooooo ittttt! I believe in you!!

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm amazed at myself I even managed to skim 400 pages. In recent times I'd get bored before then.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm totally miss everything that happens after the next two hours though.

 

[Flower]

I mean, just put Ekko on Ignore and you can easily read the other game.

 

[JoJo]

so your role knows who your teammates are.

haven’t opened a single pm son

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I mean, just put Ekko on Ignore and you can easily read the other game.

I feel like Neo from Matrix with how hard I just dodged a bullet.

 

[Lord Genome]

Come on, LG, you can dooooo ittttt! I believe in you!!

That's the biggest optimistic of all optimistics I've ever heard

 

[Flower]

That's the biggest optimistic of all optimistics I've ever heard

Show them you're not the rusty blade they think you are! You're a Warrior!

 

[Alwaysmind]

haven’t opened a single pm son

Do you even know what your role is?

 

[AndrewGreve]

I think noting any differences in how players scum hunt here vs how they scum hunt group 2's playerlist after the merge will be important

 

[Shizune]

Show them you're not the rusty blade they think you are! You're a Warrior!

Oh I assure you, LG's blade is anything but rusty

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Oh fuck 18 pages. It started in 4 am when I was sleeping. Let me read

 

[Shizune]

Oh I assure you, LG's blade is anything but rusty

Isn't that right @Laix?

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

@Traveling Swordsman any thoughts on this game? Like @Mitch , you have no posts and are now suddenly crucial to our decision

Inactives or users with low post counts have high chance to be lynched. I'm more sus on players who have high post counts but most of those posts is just fluff no game solving

 

[Lord Genome]

Oh I assure you, LG's blade is anything but rusty

Isn't that right @Laix?

 

[Flower]

@Lind are you here? What are your thoughts?

 

[JoJo]

Do you even know what your role is?

ya i just read it cuz i didn’t have a chance to interact while unknown

not as active as i used to be on here, oh well

 

[Draekke]

See this is kind of stuff why I like to fluff to early.

Because there is always someone that takes early fluff and getting to know everyone as core gameplay and decides to make reads based on it.

It serves no purpose what so ever to do that and make judgements this early, it only serves to sow dissent and later on undoubtedly lead to a fluff lynch

These reads aren't even reads, it is just retelling of what happened

I've always been a proponent that there is no fluff necessary in a mafia game, and as such I will always poke and prod those who fluff. If you're not scumhunting, then you're not doing your job as town. You're right, I didn't have much read to base anything on, as I mentioned. I just posted the few people who I was able to get any kind of pattern or learn any information on.

And guess what - I feel like I've learned a ton about several players since I posted that. Put out bait, let people take it, reel in information. I'm going to answer a few questions and responses people had for me, then I'll sum up what I feel I've learned.

 

[Draekke]

Imagine not fluffing on page 7.

I mean, you're still fluffing on page 18... but alrighty then.

 

[The Lukundo]

He's ancient history

Doesn't help.
I wanted to SR him if he was new

 

[Draekke]

Page one has never really been a serious page. Which is also why I unvoted on Page 1.

And I don't see how defending Rome constitutes as "don't contribute". If you think so, I might need to classify you as a collaborator into this Rome bashing treason.

I said it wasn't a contribution, because I see no real reason to just randomly claim to believe Vanya, just based on himself dropping the word town in connection to a persona he's putting on.

 

[Draekke]

Catching up was quite fun. I go for the glory of rome!


Most of these don't tell us what you're reading the player as except for maybe Jojo.

But since you're confused about each players style, yes, it's quite normal for TAC and Ali to start with fluff and role play. The others start with fluff, too. And honestly, I believe fluff at least gets the game going and introduces the players to each other.

I would have actually liked a read on Owner of a lonely heart if you wanted to do this since they seem to have a post or two trying to ascertain the alignment of players.


Oh, why is that?

Thanks for the heads up, that's fair. I really dislike fluff for fluff's sake, but I know it's a part of the game. I use that as stepping stone to pressure people though.

 

[Draekke]

He's contributing to the thread and him pointing out Rome was a Town made me feel like he has a Town mindset lol.

How is this something that convinces you? You're Italian, does that make you mafia?

 

[Draekke]

I'm talking about you

Here is first defence of Draeke followed by statement we can ignore his slot for now. That's wasnt a suggestion or an opinion, it was a statement and a soft command to steer the game away from draeke


Your second defense of Draeke

Your third defense of Draeke

You are defending Draeke quite a bit over simplest of lines of questioning we have for him. You are sure he is town yet you don't wanna wait for him to come and defend himself and you "suggest" us to not pursue it further

Draeke read i had at first was slim but enough to go for, but seeing you now makes me way more interested in Draeke than i was before

So what is it? Scum Buddies or You scum "protecting" a townie you can call back on if things go south=

I guess I'm biased, since AG's read on me is town, but dude is one of the only others in this thread that seems to be trying to analyze posts and scumhunt, so I have AG as town for now.

 

[Flower]

How is this something that convinces you? You're Italian, does that make you mafia?

Well, it‘s not only that. Call it a gut feeling if you may, but he was just giving me Town vibes. It‘s hard to explain.

 

[Draekke]

I note that @Karma is not on this list who had 2 posts when you made the list, however, @Saturday only had 1 and yet found itself on it.

Kind of odd to mention one low poster and ignores another in such a detailed summary of Day 1 so far.

Fair, I included Saturday because of a one post vote drop and out. Wanted to see how they would react. I never said I only posted those with more than 1 post, just that many others didn't catch my interest.

 

[Draekke]

The reads are just you saying "They're posting fluff"

Why did you feel the need to post those (for Flower, Admiral, Vanya, Centurian and Alibaba)?

I try to make my thoughts clear to the group, as that's the main way I can help town. I maybe shouldn't have called them reads, but now I've been getting some based on reactions to my post.

 

[Draekke]

I'm curious why they felt compelled to put down Alibaba in particular as having "lots of fluff" when he only has a couple of posts total

At the time, they had three or four posts I think and they were all fluff. And have continued to be nearly all fluff up to present.

 

[Draekke]

I don’t consider that off topic, we learned about someone’s role flavour.

If this is true, you're trusting Vanya too much.

 

[Draekke]

Well, it‘s not only that. Call it a gut feeling if you may, but he was just giving me Town vibes. It‘s hard to explain.

Fair enough, but FWIW, all of this "follow Rome, he's obv town" stuff makes me feel nervous. Anyone can throw in some RP and claim town. Makes me trust him less.

 

[Flower]

Fair enough, but FWIW, all of this "follow Rome, he's obv town" stuff makes me feel nervous. Anyone can throw in some RP and claim town. Makes me trust him less.

Fair enough. Though I‘ve played quite a number of games with the guy and know his meta quite well (we started playing on the same site a few years ago). I say he‘s Town. At least I haven‘t seen any of his scum tells yet.

 

[AndrewGreve]

I guess I'm biased, since AG's read on me is town, but dude is one of the only others in this thread that seems to be trying to analyze posts and scumhunt, so I have AG as town for now.

I will point out I havent really scumhunt, but I tend to look for towns and vote in the pile that is left.

its easier to be accidentally right that way

 

[Flower]

+ Alibaba is a notorious fluffer @Draekke . He usually just talks about food and zodiac signs, at least early game. If he‘s Town he‘ll be more active later.

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

On page 7. All this Rome talk is to fulfill post count quote so they don't get lynched. Flower, Vanya, Fujitora are on my scum radar list. And possibly The Ancient too

 

[AndrewGreve]

Fair enough, but FWIW, all of this "follow Rome, he's obv town" stuff makes me feel nervous. Anyone can throw in some RP and claim town. Makes me trust him less.

I think vanya's body of work so far this game shows a town mindset. I think his push on you was prob NAI, but interactions and push on me was very towny.

I basically ignored his flavor/fluff, aside from being worried it wasnt going to end.

 

[Ultra]

At the time, they had three or four posts I think and they were all fluff. And have continued to be nearly all fluff up to present.

I was more curious why you plucked his name out in particular when there were a couple of other players who had several nondescript posts.