Game Members Mafia 4 (indies win!)

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@iwandesu you're not catching up you don't need to keep posting like that

 

[Iwandesu]

Yep.

I like your plan, as long as everyone cooperates. I'll do the ability towards the end of the phase once I see votes are in the right place and what not. I'll be lynch 2 then?

[Vote Lynch 2 Iwan]

I suggest your vote to be somewhere else
Also do answer me when you submitted your action time wise

 

[Lord Genome]

If you think I'm scum and just made all that shit up on the fly idk what to tell you

 

[Iwandesu]

@iwandesu you're not catching up you don't need to keep posting like that

That's a lie
Im catching up

 

[Iwandesu]

Did somethint happen ?

 

[Iwandesu]

True, I’m really curious on what made someone pick Legend when he was an inactifag for as much as I can remember.


Yep, just checked and he literally had 6 posts.

Inactive ^ (not the meaning of the word "respect".) are decent safe vig targets

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Races would be

Human can only be majority lynched
Gnome can't be blocked
Night elf if I don't make night actions I can't be targeted
Orc can't be rolecrushed
Troll +1 life
Tauren I stomp and roleblock anyone that targets me a night, one night cooldown
Undead I eat a dead player and fight our what faction killed them


I picked dwarf

what is dwarf?

And also james what is that undead one. What if the person you're eating was killed by town?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

My role is a build your own wow character

I pick a race and a class

Alternative options I could have had paladin(1 shot rez
Warrior +2 lives
Mage negate the last 12 hours of actions one shot
Rogue some scuffed poison kill thing
Druid give a person +1 life. Can't give to another person till that life is used
Priest redirect
Warlock roleblock, sacrifice roleblock ability for a one shot super kill
Shaman if I die I janitor and come back to life next day

all of these options sound better than hunter/2 trackers >_>

 

[Iwandesu]

Correct. I can thankfully confirm Legend was town lmao.

Yeah thought so
Afk legend is usually town legend

 

[Iwandesu]

What's with the iwan lynch option for "info"?

It is an undeniably good info lynch
I wouldn't go there just yet tho

 

[Underworld Broker]

D1, vote power for myself. N1, protect on you. D2, RB on Iwan. N2 I was RB so nothing.

This is every single action you've taken in this game?

 

[Badalight]

[Unvote]
[Change Vote Lyncn 2 Aragorn]

No mate. You vote on lynch 1. Me and wpk vote on lynch 2.

when did you roleblock me btw
Timewise ?

Very late into the phase.

 

[Iwandesu]

This exchange
aargon straight up bolting after getting pressured and caught in a lie yh he can hang

Yeah aragorn looks pretty much scum meta this gane around lol

 

[Iwandesu]

No mate. You vote on lynch 1. Me and wpk vote on lynch 2.



Very late into the phase.

I see

 

[Iwandesu]

One thing to note about an SK is that going for low posters/afk players is usually ideal for them because:

1. It reduces chances of cross-killing with mafia who are more likely to aim for players who are threats to them

2. there is usually some mafia within the low posters/afk'ers and SKs want to thin their numbers too, especially if mafia is having a good run

So Legend kill is likely from an SK, so his alignment and therefore Hayumi's is still up in the air. That Legend didn't throw out a dice roll yesterday gives a very slight lean towards town.

This is actually also truth
Serial killers have more reasons to go after coasting than vigs who usually can go for hero shots (like jojo's who is usually a town lead and wasnt really there)

 

[Iwandesu]

if we assume a hero shot tho i could see someone like DDL getting vigged
But not melkor

 

[Iwandesu]

Badalight and maybe one other if they reveal themselves to have extra voting power.

What is up with this fishing tho

 

[Iwandesu]

there is no way revealing extra vote power on a game where there is a vote controlling force is ok tho
Btw,
This is a 100% tinfoil
But could the misterious force be punishing town because we have only lynched scum ?

 

[Underworld Broker]

that would be dumb

 

[Iwandesu]

like "some ratio of town x scum is down or if town gets lynched town gets +vote power, if other ratio of town x scum is down or mafia gets lynched town loses their vote power"
Alternatively those specific day posts COULD be fake
But dunno

 

[Iwandesu]

that would be dumb

Balance oriented indies would fit a couple players here tbh

 

[Underworld Broker]

D1, vote power for myself. N1, protect on you. D2, RB on Iwan. N2 I was RB so nothing.

This is every single action you've taken in this game?

^ @Badalight

 

[Iwandesu]

ok
Maybe only WPK and DDL
Not sure tho.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

like "some ratio of town x scum is down or if town gets lynched town gets +vote power, if other ratio of town x scum is down or mafia gets lynched town loses their vote power"
Alternatively those specific day posts COULD be fake
But dunno

that sounds unbalanced though. We lose our vote power cause we lynched scum? Also it doesn't make sense cause it says everyone loses their vote power..

 

[Lord Genome]

what is dwarf?

And also james what is that undead one. What if the person you're eating was killed by town?

Idk prob say it was town

all of these options sound better than hunter/2 trackers >_>

Two trackers+BP plus dwarf ability gave me most consistent abilities other than a one shot

But idk

 

[Lord Genome]

there is no way revealing extra vote power on a game where there is a vote controlling force is ok tho
Btw,
This is a 100% tinfoil
But could the misterious force be punishing town because we have only lynched scum ?

This is dumb lol

 

[Iwandesu]

Do you think we should have a second person on lynch 2 just in case scum has some kind of vote silencer? That way, they'd at least have to guess who I buffed.

Ohh
Dont you guys think it is better to not waste the odds of a second lynch like ever ?
Im not sure im liking wpk fishing for vote power claims but you even implying we should not vote oj a second lynch is literal bs tbh

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

What is up with this fishing tho

That's not fishing though, it's literally important to the proposed plan that someone on lynch 2 has extra voting power so that they're not at 0 due to the sinister force reducing vote power. Badalight wanted to have a backup voter in case he got vote silenced or role blocked before he could give himself the vote power, I was saying that if we have a backup then it has to be someone with extra vote power for it to work within the plan.

We ultimately decided on just having Bada rand his vote power between him and I, with us being the two on lynch 2.

Just because you're guilty of role fishing doesn't mean you should go throwing that accusation around in ignorance

 

[Iwandesu]

This is dumb lol

You think it is more likely to have an "each day phase everyonr lose a vote power?"

 

[Iwandesu]

We ultimately decided on just having Bada rand his vote power between him and I, with us being the two on lynch 2.

Ohhh
Ok now bada posts makes more sense m?

 

[Underworld Broker]

It is an undeniably good info lynch
I wouldn't go there just yet tho

you could maybe point us to the people who you felt their vote was suspicious on you /interactions with you felt suspect

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Idk prob say it was town



Two trackers+BP plus dwarf ability gave me most consistent abilities other than a one shot

But idk

you said fight our what faction killed them. (I assume our->out)

also i still dont know what is the dwarf ability, you didnt mention it

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Poor @Flower , Nitty must not be on so they're reduced to speaking through ratings

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I don't feel too sorry for them though as I bet they can communicate normally in their mafia PM

 

[Shizune]

Important notice

Hey guys, something super fun and exciting happened: I forgot to include something in last night’s writeup!

Here’s what should have been included:

An innocent player has betrayed the town and become guilty.

Carry on!​

 

[Lord Genome]

You think it is more likely to have an "each day phase everyonr lose a vote power?"

It's a hostile indie ability prob yea

you said fight our what faction killed them. (I assume our->out)

also i still dont know what is the dwarf ability, you didnt mention it

Ya I eat them and find out what faction killed them, that's how it was worded

Dwarf ability I didn't cause it loses a lot of it's use if I say it, so if I get lynched then whatever

 

[Iwandesu]

I cannot.

Bingo

 

[Lord Genome]

Important notice

Hey guys, something super fun and exciting happened: I forgot to include something in last night’s writeup!

Here’s what should have been included:

An innocent player has betrayed the town and become guilty.

Carry on!​

Another cult??

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Badalight my role does not do anything to rolecrushes

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Traitorous scum! Would that all the cowards in the kingdom had but a single neck..

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Two cults?

 

[Iwandesu]

Important notice

Hey guys, something super fun and exciting happened: I forgot to include something in last night’s writeup!

Here’s what should have been included:

An innocent player has betrayed the town and become guilty.

Carry on!​

Remchu had a theory this meant the town player killed the town role
If remchu is right this woukd mean we had two vig kills last night instead of mafia + SK
Alternatively this could just be the obvious scum cult
Two fucking cults at once are kinda

 

[Iwandesu]

Two cults?

There is also @RemChu theory

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

There is also @RemChu theory

It's very possible some of those roleblocks hit culted people, yes.

 

[Iwandesu]

Hey guys, the host said he will notify a person if they get blocked, right?

Yes
So...
Did anyone get notified about chair dance ?
Did anyone try to act regardless because the former was a negative ?

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast messages from the past 7 hours:

I wish I could speak normally for this DP...

Can't be the same person who killed Sigis because Sigis was in a different group than Legend.

@ Kira nothing seems odd to you regarding the wagon? We have no clue what Bada's alignment is, we don't know Iwan's. Hayumi and Iwan had the same amount of suspicion on them last DP, yet people were rather voting Hayumi than him. I wonder why that was.

Btw we still have to find Laix' killer, too. Could have been LG, but if he doesn't have a hidden kill, then there is another killer in that group.

Since Nessos claimed Tracker and I believe he is Town, the kill has to be either of Iwan, Juan, Karma and Kira since he claims he tracked Melodie and she didn't visit anyone.

So yeah, having either Kira or Iwan as the second lynch option seems good.

Although I would like to know how Nessos was able to target Darth Nordic when they weren't even in the same group .

LG's claim is somewhat more believable than Nessos' because Nessos claims he targetted nfcnorth who wasn't even in his group. North confirmed the result, though, which makes me think they're buddies because he couldn't get that result in the first place.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast messages from the past hour:

Another thing is I wonder how nobody has come to the same conclusion hours after his claim yet, despite us all having that group information at hand. This makes me wonder if scums are stirring the discussion right now.

It's possible Nessos is a scum invest that gets results of his targets and their actions because he claims to have targetted Melodie and north and LG and Sin and LG also targetted Mel on Sin. That claim from Nessos is defo a slip, though because not possible due to being in different groups with north.

I don't think that force punishes Town. I just think it's a way for scums to control the lynch this DP because the Natalija role has shown that there could be Town roles with more voting power. Town doesn't need more votes usually unless it's a counter for scum abilities.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Although I would like to know how Nessos was able to target Darth Nordic when they weren't even in the same group

wait you're right.

@Nessos can you explain this?

 

[Lord Genome]

Wait

 

[Shizune]

Hey guys, the host said he will notify a person if they get blocked, right?

I notify players if they submit an action and it doesn’t go through because they are blocked. If the player submits no action, there’s no need to tell them they were blocked. Sorry if the wording in the OP was unclear about this.

 

[Iwandesu]

My role is world of Warcraft build your character

I choose a class and race and that is my ability combos

I picked hunter which gives me 2 trackings a day and a bp. I lose the bp I lose one tracking attempt(,my hunter pet is my bp and does the tracking,)

I mean this is elaborated but...it sounds kinda off place (not impossible given laix did have a "pick old game roles" ability)
Will keep on reading

 

[Underworld Broker]

I'm also curious why he got results of N2 since everything seems to be actually delayed

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Posts from the past 7 hours...sucks reading the thread only being able to rate stuff .

 

[Shizune]

It might have been redirected tbh

We need to know how trackers work in that case. Do they inform the intended target or the one after it got redirected? @Pool Party Nitty

As seen in the action priority list, redirects are processed before investigative abilities. Does that answer your question?

 

[Iwandesu]

My role is a build your own wow character

I pick a race and a class

Alternative options I could have had paladin(1 shot rez
Warrior +2 lives
Mage negate the last 12 hours of actions one shot
Rogue some scuffed poison kill thing
Druid give a person +1 life. Can't give to another person till that life is used
Priest redirect
Warlock roleblock, sacrifice roleblock ability for a one shot super kill
Shaman if I die I janitor and come back to life next day

Bro you want me to believe you did not pick any of those op roles and went with hunter

 

[Iwandesu]

Also what in the blood fuck has baddy to do with this shit

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

As seen in the action priority list, redirects are processed before investigative abilities. Does that answer your question?

Yes they do, thanks.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also what in the blood fuck has baddy to do with this shit

Baddy plays WoW iirc

 

[Iwandesu]

Was he known for liking WWC ?

 

[Iwandesu]

Baddy plays WoW iirc

Hmmmmmmm

 

[Lord Genome]

Bro you want me to believe you did not pick any of those op roles and went with hunter

I mean a nightly two target tracker that is also bulletproof seems pretty strong

 

[Underworld Broker]

hey @is a (it's me again ) thoughts on Nessos claim?

also i think you didnt answer my question from last DP on Melo's town/scum playstyle, hows she usually playing

 

[Iwandesu]

Was he known for liking WWC ?

*wow

 

[Iwandesu]

I mean a nightly two target tracker that is also bulletproof seems pretty strong

Meh.
I guess it fits apparently
What would your results mean

 

[Lord Genome]

Meh.
I guess it fits apparently
What would your results mean

Night 1 I targeted nessos and melodie and got no targets(they came to me night 2 because my actions were delayed)night 2 I targets nessos and sin and it was delayed till next night

 

[Iwandesu]

that sounds unbalanced though. We lose our vote power cause we lynched scum? Also it doesn't make sense cause it says everyone loses their vote power..

Everyone losing vote power just because is unbalanced period tho.
Even more because we got +vote on day 1
I mean there must be some short of trigger

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Can any of you bring some attention to the matter regarding Nessos targetting nfc btw? Can't really tag people since I talk via broadcast.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Universal vote silence is the kind of mechanic that you normally only see in CR games

 

[Lord Genome]

The game has been divided into 3 groups. These groups are:

Aragorn
Babby
Badalight
Cooler
Worm Juice
Flower
Go D. Usopp
Hayumi
Hero
is a
Kvothe Kingkiller

Iwandesu
John Wayne
Juan
Karma
Kira Yagami
Laix
Legend
Lord Genome
Lord Melkor
Melodie
Nessos

Nevan
nfcnorth
Owner Of A Lonely Heart
Natalija
Ratchet
RemChu
Santi
SinRaven
Underworld Broker
WolfPrinceKiba
Dragon D. Luffy

During the night phase, you will only be able to target players who are in your group, so plan your actions accordingly.

Group list

 

[Iwandesu]

you could maybe point us to the people who you felt their vote was suspicious on you /interactions with you felt suspect

I guess
Will take a look

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I wish the broadcaster can freely speak in the thread

 

[Hayumi]

Group list

Wait a minute...

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm not sure if I wanna dump a lynch on LG right now when Nessos thing also sounds fishy.

Much rather pick someone from my list tbh.

[vote lynch 1 Santi]

 

[Shizune]

Incoming action...

 

[Hayumi]

@Nessos So how did you target nfc when you were both in different groups...?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Now I have no extra VP afaik but maybe someone boosted me who knows.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Everyone losing vote power just because is unbalanced period tho.
Even more because we got +vote on day 1
I mean there must be some short of trigger

I wonder if it's rng then? +1 at the start and then random for the rest?

Otherwise for the trigger, it is either the lynch or the alignment change maybe?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Incoming action...

this better be the wish mechanic on me

 

[Underworld Broker]

During the night phase, you will only be able to target players who are in your group, so plan your actions accordingly.

 

[Iwandesu]

It's a hostile indie ability prob yea

Even if it is truth (looks more like a weird neutral) no way there is not some conditional
Given this is a nitty game and we lynched two scum town days and then got such results imo it is likely ekther that or just fake