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the use of the term neighbourizer implies an out of game chat where u guys can talk. he just sent you an offer message via the host, not a neighbourizer.

stilll not an indicative of santi's alignment bc gifts can be scum abilities too. its just my ability no longer incriminates him directly.
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I have a stronger scum read on Bada, Soul is null for now.

But why would teammates agree with each other all the time in the thread? It makes it easier to connect them.
I agree with people if they make sense. There was a point in the game where it did make sense to execute Santi. The game changes based on what people post
Vote Santi for the EXECUTE please. If he's not scum use the night lynch on Ekko.
Why? Either missed your reasoning or you haven't posted it.
I would agree that if we kill Santi and he is mafia Fang is next, but don't see why we would kill a now active Santi on the execute now.
Please elaborate, I am willing to reconsider.
 
yall gotta cut me some slack tbh
who would u have pushed for last night in my position?
Maybe... WORM JUICE?
FUCK.
does not imply i investigated him. mechanical means its ability/result related. does not have to be an investigation but i can see the line of thought here as an aries player with bunch of mech stuff being investigations
Ok. Can you elaborate on what you have? Haven't seen it and it could help the night lynch people do their job.
 
I’m finally awake! I was up late last night getting my ******* **** filled ***** and ***** with a fork, plus ******* inside the *** ******, Warhammer orcs, big **** ***** *******, and we didn’t even used condoms!

Votes locked in one hour
Getting my filled and with a fork, plus inside the warhammer orcs, big, and we didn't even used condoms

What did you do with the Warhammer orcs.
 
[Vote Execute Franky], by the way.

No he is not, he is one of the 5 that lynch, and they need 3 votes to get the lynch, anything less and we lose the night lynch.
Which in hindsight might not be a big deal after all that night phase was awful.
He said he can't be killed and keeps avoiding being on the main wagon. How else do we get rid of him?
 
He said he can't be killed and keeps avoiding being on the main wagon. How else do we get rid of him?
Personally, this is the first night that Bada reads somewhat scum to me.
Anything but WJ, regardless of what she ends up being, is wrong. This is why she has this many votes.

My train of thought is see what he does at night and then continue to form an opinion on the subject. If he votes for something else than the consensus on Day 4, he might be targeted and would just be suspected further. He will be available for being killed eventually, thinking that he can't die ever makes no sense.
Speaking of, didn't know that claiming you can't die means you are immortal. Someone can just test his theory.

In short: He will be made available to be kill, just like anyone playing.
Make a solid case for him being scum and others should follow if you make sense, because right now it doesn't feel that you have much.

If you are afraid of what influence he could have on the night lynch you can just push to kill one of the other 4 and then that lynch would disappear. There's always a way.
We can't lynch him if he's not on a wagon.
There's more than one way to die, Ratchet.
 
Personally, this is the first night that Bada reads somewhat scum to me.
Anything but WJ, regardless of what she ends up being, is wrong. This is why she has this many votes.

My train of thought is see what he does at night and then continue to form an opinion on the subject. If he votes for something else than the consensus on Day 4, he might be targeted and would just be suspected further. He will be available for being killed eventually, thinking that he can't die ever makes no sense.
Speaking of, didn't know that claiming you can't die means you are immortal. Someone can just test his theory.

In short: He will be made available to be kill, just like anyone playing.
Make a solid case for him being scum and others should follow if you make sense, because right now it doesn't feel that you have much.

If you are afraid of what influence he could have on the night lynch you can just push to kill one of the other 4 and then that lynch would disappear. There's always a way.

There's more than one way to die, Ratchet.
I feel like the words I'm using don't seem to be getting conveyed to you. I never once said he MUST be unkillable at Night. He claimed it. You can assume that if he is scum faking it, they probably have a way to protect him. So the bolded comment is worthless.

Why are you assuming that my fear is his supposed influence on the Night lynch? In fact, what even is this argument? I suggested he was a target for the night lynch, as he's relatively scum read by several players and otherwise cannot be lynched, and allegedly cannot be killed. Why on earth would I want any one of the *other* players to be killed off first just to prevent the night lynch instead of suggesting the night lynch just be used on him? How is taking away the night lynch a better move here? Can you explain this one to me please. Because I see no reason for a townie to believe that, instead of removing a suspect player, it would instead be better to remove someone else to prevent the sole tool that can be reliably used on the suspect player from being employed. It really actually makes no sense at all.

I don't really need to make a solid case. Ducking the wagons for three days in a row, using the mislynches that he avoided as a tool to brag and then flagrantly admit that his concern is survival over finding scum are all scummy characteristics in their own right, especially the last one, which is quite literally the main concern for scum.

I'm sorry but I'm going to need you to defend yourself on this, because I'd go as far as to say this is almost open-wolfing.
 
Day 3 - Vote count 2
Day 3 Semi-final vote count

Spoiler: Lynch votes
1. @Badalight -
2. @Baroxio - Baroxio > DrProf
3. @charles101 -
4. @Didi - Worm Juice
5. @DrProfessor83 - Worm Juice
6. @Ekkologix - SinRaven > Worm Juice
7. @Fang - Worm Juice
8. @Firestormer - DrProf > Worm Juice
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Ekko
11. @Hero
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne - Worm Juice
14. @Juan - Worm Juice
15. @Kira Yagami - Worm Juice
16. @Lind
17. @Lord Melkor - Kira Yagami > Ratchet > SinRaven
18. @Melodie
19. @Nessos - Worm Juice
20. @Rej - Worm Juice
21. @Santí - Worm Juice
22. @SinRaven - Worm Juice
23. @Soul - Worm Juice
24. @SoulKiller - SinRaven
25. @sworder
26. @tinky winky - SinRaven
27. @WolfPrinceKiba - Didi
28. @Worm Juice - DrProf > Ratchet > Didi
29. @Yo Tan Wa - Worm Juice


Lynch leaderboard

Worm Juice - 14
SinRaven - 3
Didi - 2

Spoiler: Execution votes
1. @Badalight - Santi
2. @Baroxio
3. @charles101 - Franky > Santi > Franky
4. @Didi - Sworder
5. @DrProfessor83 - Santi > Franky
6. @Ekkologix - Santi > Melodie > Franky
7. @Fang
8. @Firestormer - Sworder > Santi > Sworder > Franky
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Santi
11. @Hero
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne
14. @Juan - Franky
15. @Kira Yagami
16. @Lind
17. @Lord Melkor - Santi > sworder
18. @Melodie
19. @Nessos - Santi > Melodie > Santi > Melodie
20. @Rej - Sworder
21. @Santí - Melodie
22. @SinRaven - Melodie
23. @Soul - Franky
24. @SoulKiller - Sworder
25. @sworder
26. @tinky winky - Franky
27. @WolfPrinceKiba
28. @Worm Juice - Franky
29. @Yo Tan Wa


Execution leaderboard

Franky - 7
Melodie - 3
Sworder - 3
Santi - 2

Anyone who doesn't vote will cast 2 votes against themselves.

Votes lock in just under 30 minutes.
 
I feel like the words I'm using don't seem to be getting conveyed to you. I never once said he MUST be unkillable at Night. He claimed it. You can assume that if he is scum faking it, they probably have a way to protect him. So the bolded comment is worthless.

Why are you assuming that my fear is his supposed influence on the Night lynch? In fact, what even is this argument? I suggested he was a target for the night lynch, as he's relatively scum read by several players and otherwise cannot be lynched, and allegedly cannot be killed. Why on earth would I want any one of the *other* players to be killed off first just to prevent the night lynch instead of suggesting the night lynch just be used on him? How is taking away the night lynch a better move here? Can you explain this one to me please. Because I see no reason for a townie to believe that, instead of removing a suspect player, it would instead be better to remove someone else to prevent the sole tool that can be reliably used on the suspect player from being employed. It really actually makes no sense at all.

I don't really need to make a solid case. Ducking the wagons for three days in a row, using the mislynches that he avoided as a tool to brag and then flagrantly admit that his concern is survival over finding scum are all scummy characteristics in their own right, especially the last one, which is quite literally the main concern for scum.

I'm sorry but I'm going to need you to defend yourself on this, because I'd go as far as to say this is almost open-wolfing.
Jesus Christ
I assumed that was your fear because I don't get why you would being worried about Bada right now. WJ is definitely the play today, and you have all of the night phase to further evaluate his behavior.

I don't think he is a good night Lynch target because I don't think that the other 4 can come to a consensus based on what happened last night phase, and he will be there to defend himself, too.

No clue what open-wolfing is, please elaborate.
 
I assumed that was your fear because I don't get why you would being worried about Bada right now. WJ is definitely the play today, and you have all of the night phase to further evaluate his behavior.
You assumed that was my fear when I explicitly said that he night lynch remains the single most viable way to deal with him? How does that compute? If there would be any fear there, it would be the inability to remove him from play easily. I don't think I ever said he should be lynched today, over Worm Juice, because... he can't be, as he didn't vote. Your argument does not hold up at all here.
I don't think he is a good night Lynch target because I don't think that the other 4 can come to a consensus based on what happened last night phase, and he will be there to defend himself, too.
You don't think he's good target because he can defend himself? Wouldn't that make him a better target? You wuld want to have someone who can engage with suspicion, surely, over someone who can only be silent? I'm not sure how the other 4 being able to form a consensus makes him a bad night lynch target too.

Can you address this please, because I'm growing increasingly concerned about the strength of your arguments.
 
You assumed that was my fear when I explicitly said that he night lynch remains the single most viable way to deal with him? How does that compute? If there would be any fear there, it would be the inability to remove him from play easily. I don't think I ever said he should be lynched today, over Worm Juice, because... he can't be, as he didn't vote. Your argument does not hold up at all here.
You don't think he's good target because he can defend himself? Wouldn't that make him a better target? You wuld want to have someone who can engage with suspicion, surely, over someone who can only be silent? I'm not sure how the other 4 being able to form a consensus makes him a bad night lynch target too.
It doesn't compute. I missed where you said that. I agree that, with that info, that section of my post doesn't add up.

I also misspoke there. He could be a good Lynch target, I just have little to no faith in the night group, or what they may accomplish.

Can you address this please, because I'm growing increasingly concerned about the strength of your arguments.
Yup, didn't make a good argument because I missed vital information on your side. I stand corrected, as per this post.
 
Day 3 - Final vote count
Day 3 Final vote count

Spoiler: Lynch votes
1. @Badalight -
2. @Baroxio - Baroxio > DrProf
3. @charles101 - Worm Juice
4. @Didi - Worm Juice
5. @DrProfessor83 - Worm Juice
6. @Ekkologix - SinRaven > Worm Juice
7. @Fang - Worm Juice
8. @Firestormer - DrProf > Worm Juice
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Ekko
11. @Hero
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne - Worm Juice
14. @Juan - Worm Juice
15. @Kira Yagami - Worm Juice
16. @Lind
17. @Lord Melkor - Kira Yagami > Ratchet > SinRaven > Worm Juice
18. @Melodie
19. @Nessos - Worm Juice
20. @Rej - Worm Juice
21. @Santí - Worm Juice
22. @SinRaven - Worm Juice
23. @Soul - Worm Juice
24. @SoulKiller - SinRaven
25. @sworder
26. @tinky winky - SinRaven
27. @WolfPrinceKiba - Didi
28. @Worm Juice - DrProf > Ratchet > Didi
29. @Yo Tan Wa - Worm Juice


Lynch leaderboard

Worm Juice - 15
SinRaven - 2
Didi - 2

Spoiler: Execution votes
1. @Badalight - Santi
2. @Baroxio
3. @charles101 - Franky > Santi > Franky
4. @Didi - Sworder
5. @DrProfessor83 - Santi > Franky
6. @Ekkologix - Santi > Melodie > Franky
7. @Fang - Franky
8. @Firestormer - Sworder > Santi > Sworder > Franky
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Santi
11. @Hero
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne
14. @Juan - Franky
15. @Kira Yagami
16. @Lind
17. @Lord Melkor - Santi > sworder > Santi > Franky
18. @Melodie
19. @Nessos - Santi > Melodie > Santi > Melodie
20. @Rej - Sworder
21. @Santí - Melodie
22. @SinRaven - Melodie
23. @Soul - Franky
24. @SoulKiller - Sworder
25. @sworder
26. @tinky winky - Franky
27. @WolfPrinceKiba
28. @Worm Juice - Franky
29. @Yo Tan Wa


Execution leaderboard

Franky - 9
Melodie - 3

@Franky will be executed, and @Worm Juice will be ly-- wait... what's that? This can't be right... it says here that due to shenanigans, @Nessos is going to be lynched instead! @Oddjutsu , did you do this to get back at him for the night lynch?!

Well anyway that's just terrible! Now we have no lynch pool for tomorrow!

Tomorrow's lynch will be open to everyone, like day 1's was.
 
Reasoning being - he's probably just behind. Neither scum LM nor town LM with full intel would have any reason to vote person who cleared him. There's been mass notification saying to vote him, there wasn't one to switch to Franky. No reason to jump into conclusions imo

Yes, I am leaning not scum on Santi right now after catching up. Could be indie maybe.

Scum could clear people as town to gain creditbility though.
 
day 1 wagon

1. @Badalight - Santi
2. @Baroxio - Lord Melkor > Worm Juice
3. @charles101
4. @Didi - John Wayne > Lord Melkor > Worm Juice > Platinum
5. @DrProfessor83 - Worm Juice
6. @Ekkologix - DrProfessor > Hammer > Worm Juice
7. @Fang - DrProfessor > Lord Melkor
8. @Firestormer - Nessos > Hammer
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Didi
11. @Hero - Platinum
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne - Nessos
14. @Juan - DrProfessor83 > Platinum
15. @Kira Yagami - Worm Juice
16. @Lalisa - Lord Melkor > Xadlin
17. @Lind - Lalisa > Worm Juice > Platinum
18. @Lord Melkor - Didi > Platinum
19. @Melodie
20. @Natalija - Xadlin > Lord Melkor
21. @Nessos - Rej
22. @Oddjutsu
23. @Platinum - Didi
24. @Ratchet - Worm Juice > Platinum
25. @Rej - Worm Juice
26. @Salah WG
27. @Santí
28. @SinRaven - Melodie
29. @Soul - DrProfessor >
30. @SoulKiller - Platinum
31. @sworder
32. @tinky winky - Didi
33. @WolfPrinceKiba - Didi
34. @Worm Juice - Franky > Didi
35. @Xadlin - Didi > Platinum
36. @Yo Tan Wa - Worm Juice

8 plat voters: didi, juan, hero, lind, melkor, ratchet, sk, xadlin
6 worm voters: rej, yo tan, ekko, kira, baroxio, prof
5 didi voters: WPK, worm, plat, tinky, hammer

worm flipping scum here does not mean didi is not scum too. if either of them were town, mafia would of gladly taken that wagon for free then lynched plat after instead of derail for no reason and put blood on their hand

plat's voters:
- melkor made it clear that he is going for didi over worm. worm scum flip implicates him more than a didi scumflip, although from my past experience with melkor i dont think he defends a scum buddy this openly. if both didi and worm flip scum then perhaps didi might have a weaker role and thats where melkor was going for but i doubt it. also he has a green cop check on him. sin also tried to pin melkor as scum buddy of worm over the night with barely analyzing it so a sin scum flip probably just clears melkor for me altogether bc shading a player at night might cause night actions to harm them. leaning town.
- juan looks townie from general tone and play. he is being vocal against worm much more than against didi, and he pushed xadlin lynch day 2 which saved didi (which is more of a misplay from xadlin). i'd tie juan to a didi scumflip more than a worm scumflip. hes basically the reverse of melkor.
- hero started the game looking townie but his play has been falling off in the recent phases, plus he started the wagon on plat. hero is town reading didi altogether and has no notable interactions with worm / did not display a strong lean eitherway on them. this slot needs to be checked upon either flip scum tbh
- lind is a tossup for me. he started the game looking townie but kept going downhill in the recent phases in both games. i can cut him some slack since hes gotta play 24/7 but there is not much in depth solving coming from him other than town reading players and staying at a safe distance from the sideline, which is pretty indie like behavior. he preferred a worm lynch over didi in day 1 but then pushed for plat's lynch and tagged others to vote him by the end of the day. if hes like a super godfather he would be trying to find the scum teams on his own so his scum hunting can come off as genuine, yet reserved to his own self at the same time. might need to be lynched in one of the games at some point
- sk vote on plat is probably the worst of the bunch if we assume he knew worm/didi was leading or almost leading then voted plat to tip the scale off, bc if sk voted worm there he would of made the wagon 7-7 tied and there could be a would worm gets lynched assuming no vote shenanigens. sk is a good player and idk what tf he was doing. id expect them to bus worm here if shes scum if anything instead of incriminate themselves over it. need to see more convincing gameplay otherwise can go / get checked.

worm voters look better overall:
- prof - town
- baroxio - town. gameplay, tone, watcher claim, and got targeted by the superkill.
- rej - leaning town. his day 1 was on town meta. hes vocal against worm but not much against didi. would only start looking into this slot if worm flips town
- yo tan - null/lean town. seems too disengaged with the game / posting in past tense for most of the time, like soul (not sk) but overall good tone and raising good points. would look into him more in depth if worm flips town. good vibes for now. can maybe tie him to a didi scum flip more than a worm one due to lack of interactions with didi, yet voting worm over didi.
- kira - null/lean scum - wud probs look here for a scum that wanted to bus worm day 1 for cred / parked vote on her but was not there in EoD to move it. hes the only person in worm's wagon im not confident enough to give him a clear look if worm flips scum.

didi voters are more nullish/scum:
- WPK - leaning town on him. good tone and posts. also targeted by superkill. MIA in day 3.
- worm - most prob just outed scum open wolfing and trolling at this point. shuda been yeeted day 1 or on night lynch
- tinky - nullish/leaning town. doesnt have much contributions. just from tone probably leaning inactive townie than inactive scum. could be indie too staying safe.
- hammer - scum. ive explained it multiple times in thread. also the claim to vote silence 2 people and can roleblock is super scummy. he feels self aware of his actions and contributes nothing but defensive and dismissive replies to questions and has not been part of the main wagons the entire game.


the flip order here should be worm > didi. i dont believe in that a worm lynch clears didi even if she flips scum and vice versa
also down to do worm > sin maybe worm > sk

hero, hammer, lind, kira need to be checked under worm/didi scum flips
 
Day 3 Final vote count

Spoiler: Lynch votes
1. @Badalight -
2. @Baroxio - Baroxio > DrProf
3. @charles101 - Worm Juice
4. @Didi - Worm Juice
5. @DrProfessor83 - Worm Juice
6. @Ekkologix - SinRaven > Worm Juice
7. @Fang - Worm Juice
8. @Firestormer - DrProf > Worm Juice
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Ekko
11. @Hero
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne - Worm Juice
14. @Juan - Worm Juice
15. @Kira Yagami - Worm Juice
16. @Lind
17. @Lord Melkor - Kira Yagami > Ratchet > SinRaven > Worm Juice
18. @Melodie
19. @Nessos - Worm Juice
20. @Rej - Worm Juice
21. @Santí - Worm Juice
22. @SinRaven - Worm Juice
23. @Soul - Worm Juice
24. @SoulKiller - SinRaven
25. @sworder
26. @tinky winky - SinRaven
27. @WolfPrinceKiba - Didi
28. @Worm Juice - DrProf > Ratchet > Didi
29. @Yo Tan Wa - Worm Juice


Lynch leaderboard

Worm Juice - 15
SinRaven - 2
Didi - 2

Spoiler: Execution votes
1. @Badalight - Santi
2. @Baroxio
3. @charles101 - Franky > Santi > Franky
4. @Didi - Sworder
5. @DrProfessor83 - Santi > Franky
6. @Ekkologix - Santi > Melodie > Franky
7. @Fang - Franky
8. @Firestormer - Sworder > Santi > Sworder > Franky
9. @Franky
10. @hammer - Santi
11. @Hero
12. @Iwandesu
13. @John Wayne
14. @Juan - Franky
15. @Kira Yagami
16. @Lind
17. @Lord Melkor - Santi > sworder > Santi > Franky
18. @Melodie
19. @Nessos - Santi > Melodie > Santi > Melodie
20. @Rej - Sworder
21. @Santí - Melodie
22. @SinRaven - Melodie
23. @Soul - Franky
24. @SoulKiller - Sworder
25. @sworder
26. @tinky winky - Franky
27. @WolfPrinceKiba
28. @Worm Juice - Franky
29. @Yo Tan Wa


Execution leaderboard

Franky - 9
Melodie - 3

@Franky will be executed, and @Worm Juice will be ly-- wait... what's that? This can't be right... it says here that due to shenanigans, @Nessos is going to be lynched instead! @Oddjutsu , did you do this to get back at him for the night lynch?!

Well anyway that's just terrible! Now we have no lynch pool for tomorrow!

Tomorrow's lynch will be open to everyone, like day 1's was.
foken beautiful innit

cant wait for franky to flip town too
 

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