Game Members Mafia 4 (indies win!)

[Underworld Broker]

we should get over with the LG stuff, idk why we switching wagons now

 

[Badalight]

we should get over with the LG stuff, idk why we switching wagons now

I love lg and don't want him to die, but what's the logic behind the ratchet lynch? Who is voting that way?

 

[Flower]

we should get over with the LG stuff, idk why we switching wagons now

Because Nessos, north, Sin and Mel are all scums who made up an elaborate lie to cover up a scum slip and if LG flips Town, they're all busted .

 

[Underworld Broker]

i think Sin started pushing that way cause some ppl (including myself) dont like the way he's been playing

 

[Iwandesu]

But yeah, that opposite ability thing does not sound Town at all. Because that player couldn't even be killed because kill=heal and superkill=superheal or superprotect.

oh
is nfcnorth the misterious force?

 

[Iwandesu]

I mean I just told you how to kill me because you are forgetting that it goes the other way and heals equals a dead me

so you admit being an indie ?

 

[Underworld Broker]

by all means i'm not against Ratchets lynch since he doesnt even seem to care at all with his latest few posts

 

[nfcnorth]

so you admit being an indie ?

I have never claimed indie I am town. I know you are in catch up mode

 

[Badalight]

i think Sin started pushing that way cause some ppl (including myself) dont like the way he's been playing

That's, broad.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Badalight: "Another cult? FAKE NEWS"

Inb4 Bada is cultist

 

[Flower]

oh
is nfcnorth the misterious force?

How do I know? All I know is that force is useless because I have a one-shot counter for this anyway.

 

[Flower]

Badalight: "Another cult? FAKE NEWS"

Inb4 Bada is cultist

Why don't we lynch HIM today?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

No, he was Mafia with a recruiting ability.

a.k.a. cult

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why don't we lynch HIM today?

Cuz we already have two great targets and this is just a tinfoil.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

It is different as in he can't recruit a player each night. He has to mark the players and then pick them for a Mafia team and gets the Mafia wincon, usually. Cult can recruit every night as the WU implies, so there you have the difference.

a.k.a. cult with role madness mechanics

beeen there, done that

 

[Flower]

Cuz we already have two great targets and this is just a tinfoil.

Suure.

 

[Badalight]

a.k.a. cult

No. You don't get it. The solo indie role that recruits members is NOT a cultist. IDIOT.

 

[Ekkologix]

mafia normally faction kill someone at night, every night

cult normally faction recruit someone at night, every night

laix namesake role was ... a weird mix of the 2

 

[Flower]

[Vote lynch Badalight]

.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

In JW's case he was closer to being a Cultafia.

https://wiki.[Blocked Domain]/index.php?title=Cultafia

 

[Iwandesu]

This isn't even the tankiest town role I have been tbh.

Yeah but this is not exactly tankie
just VERY specific
i cant think of any player who would think on this "reverse everything thrown on them" tbh

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

if the mysterious force gives everyone -1 does that mean nfc has +2 voting power since it's the opposite for him?

 

[Badalight]

[Vote lynch Badalight]

.

Tomorrow I'm gonna give you a posting requirement where you have to say "Bada is hot and definitely town" every single announcement.

 

[Flower]

Tomorrow I'm gonna give you a posting requirement where you have to say "Bada is hot and definitely town" every single announcement.

Then I lynch you tomorrow .

 

[nfcnorth]

if the mysterious force gives everyone -1 does that mean nfc has +2 voting power since it's the opposite for him?

It mentions targeting so unlikely. Besides the delay still works on me and had the same effect

Yeah but this is not exactly tankie
just VERY specific
i cant think of any player who would think on this "reverse everything thrown on them" tbh

Its not so much the player but more of a section reference

 

[Iwandesu]

Tinfoil:

Nessos, nfc and LG are all scums and they converted LG last night to bus him for cred .

Cult could and should be doing some bigass plays tbh

 

[Badalight]

Then I lynch you tomorrow .

Part of you posting requirement is gonna be to put "Vote Lynch Flower" at the end of your announcements.

 

[Flower]

Tinfoil: Nessos is the one who delays stuff and that's why all of his claimed targets (nfc, Sin and LG) got delayed .

 

[Flower]

Part of you posting requirement is gonna be to put "Vote Lynch Flower" at the end of your announcements.

Little do you know I don't vote through announcements.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Tinfoil: Nessos is the one who delays stuff and that's why all of his claimed targets (nfc, Sin and LG) got delayed .

Other ppl claimed to be delated too no?

 

[Flower]

Because LG claims delayed and if that's the case he couldn't have killed Jojo anyway.

 

[Underworld Broker]

I think the delayed stuff only affects investigative abilities?

 

[Flower]

Other ppl claimed to be delated too no?

Yeah, but nobody knows who delayed them, so possible he hides some targets.

 

[Flower]

I think the delayed stuff only affects investigative abilities?

No clue, but I feel like LG's flip would actually be the best now.

 

[Lord Genome]

The delay roles sucks and should be shot and makes me sad

So does the redirector

 

[Flower]

The delay roles sucks and should be shot and makes me sad

So does the redirector

Duh, the delay is a scum role and supposed to be shot.

 

[Lord Genome]

I know I'm just venting

 

[Ratchet]

I just can't imagine you being town and contributing so little.

Why are you addressing my vote above all others?

I don't know how many votes I have on me. I just saw yours. More to the point, is your argument that I'd contribute so little as scum instead? I believe my contribution should be NAI here, me not being highly engaged isn't really a scum tell here.

 

[Ratchet]

Is there a vote count flying around?

 

[Flower]

[Vote lynch Lord Genome]

@Lord Genome the vote is now locked. And you get lynched.

You can just come out now if you were scum.

 

[Badalight]

I don't know how many votes I have on me. I just saw yours. More to the point, is your argument that I'd contribute so little as scum instead? I believe my contribution should be NAI here, me not being highly engaged isn't really a scum tell here.

Pretty sure you're in the lead atm, or very near.

 

[Lord Genome]

[Vote lynch Lord Genome]

@Lord Genome the vote is now locked. And you get lynched.

You can just come out now if you were scum.

I mean I'm not

 

[Lord Genome]

If your trying to announce something by locking a Lynch in a townie it feels like a waste

 

[Flower]

I mean I'm not

So you weren't scum?

 

[Lord Genome]

So you weren't scum?

No???

 

[Lord Genome]

Jesus

 

[Flower]

No???

'Kay. You passed the stress test.

LG is good, guys.

[Unvote].

 

[Lord Genome]

I didn't target JoJo either

So either nessos is lying or I was redirected

I was probably redirected, probably to frame me

 

[Lord Genome]

 

[Badalight]

damn that flower vote had lg shakin' in his boots

he was this close to role revealing as scum

 

[Lord Genome]

I didn't target JoJo either

So either nessos is lying or I was redirected

I was probably redirected, probably to frame me

Actually town might have redirected me for some reason, don't want to jump to conclusions but ya

 

[Hayumi]

we should get over with the LG stuff, idk why we switching wagons now

Somewhat agree tbh. I just think it’s slightly fishy that the Ratchet wagon doesn’t really have any resistance whatsoever, whereas a lot of people wanted to move away from the whole LG/Nessos situation, which for the record I understand, but it seems like that avoids a possible resolution to all their claim bs.

 

[Badalight]

THE FUCKING PRESSURE. Like LG is Goku stepping into 100x earth's gravity in his space pod.

 

[Lord Genome]

As long as someone in remchus block thing is getting lynched that will be actual good info

Worst case scenario with my Lynch is you Lynch nessos and he flips town and nothing is learned

 

[Flower]

THE FUCKING PRESSURE. Like LG is Goku stepping into 100x earth's gravity in his space pod.

Bruh, I legit have lynch control this DP and you say this stuff ?

 

[Lord Genome]

As long as someone in remchus block thing is getting lynched that will be actual good info

Worst case scenario with my Lynch is you Lynch nessos and he flips town and nothing is learned

Which would be town losing essentially 4 trackers

 

[Flower]

@Santí people wanna lynch you. You okay with that?

 

[Santí]

Okay, so two things.

1) Ratchet is town as fuck no matter which way I read his posts
2) I'm town with conditional kills, which I've hinted at multiple times in this thread.

This SK theory or even worse, that I'm for some reason lying about my role, is stupid.

 

[Lord Genome]

Also ddl compliaing about people talking about ability interactions in a role madness game when he tried to talk about him and remchus interactions half of today and last day

 

[Flower]

Yeah, not gonna vote for Ratchet and Santi to be quite frank.

 

[Lord Genome]

Also I can almost guarantee scum 4/8 lowest posters this day phase

This is a great day for them assuming nessos is town

 

[Flower]

How trustworthy is DDL's claim?

 

[Lord Genome]

How trustworthy is DDL's claim?

It feels too elaborate and sudden to be mafia imo

 

[Ratchet]

I really don't want to claim, but I will if I have to. Can someone compile a VC so I know who is voting for me?

 

[Ratchet]

I've also noted almost no one who apparently scum reads me has attempted to engage me or even really challenge my posts.

 

[Natalija]

I’m pretty sure DDL is town.

 

[Flower]

I really don't want to claim, but I will if I have to. Can someone compile a VC so I know who is voting for me?

You're not getting lynched.

 

[Lord Genome]

Like him coming out with it after a supposed mass roleblock makes sense

Mechanically every person being roleblocked being mafia doesn't make sense though so I'd lean towards remchu not being town(possible pro town) or the ability that used the roleblock being scuffed and messing with it(remchu said his role was only around for a little bit, which is odd)

 

[Lord Genome]

Who's been a shorter this day one sec

 

[Lord Genome]

Who's been a shorter this day one sec

Shitter*

 

[Ratchet]

You're not getting lynched.

... That runs counter to what Cooler and Badalight have suggested to me.

 

[Lord Genome]

Juan/wpk/karma/Kira I don't like for off the top head reads

 

[Flower]

... That runs counter to what Cooler and Badalight have suggested to me.

Almost all people have no voting power today. And I used a one-shot that I gained from another player which I will use to grant all people voting with me on a wagon +1 voting power for this DP.


Basically: No lynch unless I vote for you.

 

[Badalight]

... That runs counter to what Cooler and Badalight have suggested to me.

tbh it's hard to say. You have the most votes but also most people have 0 vote power. So really no one knows. But obviously the more votes on you, the more likely one of them has more than 0 vote power.

Flower thinks she controls the lynch so

 

[Ratchet]

Almost all people have no voting power today. And I used a one-shot that I gained from another player which I will use to grant all people voting with me on a wagon +1 voting power for this DP.


Basically: No lynch unless I vote for you.

tbh it's hard to say. You have the most votes but also most people have 0 vote power. So really no one knows. But obviously the more votes on you, the more likely one of them has more than 0 vote power.

Flower thinks she controls the lynch so

Right, I got it. Thanks.

 

[Flower]

Karma and Kira non-existent today.

 

[Badalight]

Flower is in like top 10 posters despite only being here for a fraction of 1 phase. Lots of pent up energy.

 

[Iwandesu]

Children

I'm not gonna say stop trying to figure out the setup

But here is the thing, the number of abilities in this game is clearly in the triple digits, and they seem VERY powerful in general. I have a global passive redirector. Some guy has a global vote silencer. There are two cults. This is heavy role madness.

Whatever theory you construct to explain the LG/Nessos/nfc thing, there are at least 50 different ways you could be totally wrong and at least 99% chance one of them happened.

Pick a wagon and roll with it. Go back to analysing posts and saying who you suspect. That's the only way we win. The rest is smokescreen.

relatable content

 

[Hayumi]

How are you guys feeling about Juan? I’m still 80 /20 on him being scum tbh.

 

[Iwandesu]

Lynch it.

All indies so far this game have been bad news and if santi is the misteryous force then yeah lets do it

 

[Iwandesu]

How are you guys feeling about Juan? I’m still 80 /20 on him being scum tbh.

Yeah he is a great vig target to the least