Game Members Mafia 4 (indies win!)

[Underworld Broker]

I wish the broadcaster can freely speak in the thread

 

[Underworld Broker]

Hmmm... didnt wad mention last DP he got poisoned or smth?

 

[Badalight]

Hmmm... didnt wad mention last DP he got poisoned or smth?

He said "sick".

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Also, ngl, but it feels like Townies are just scum's tools this game and the game is about which Cult or Mafia wins.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Why hasnt he brought it up

Again I mean

Like did no one else got a message like that?

 

[Underworld Broker]

I can imagine there being a small mafia actually

Like in the RPG game

And few cult? Maybe that guilty turning thing is different than cult ... alien or something?

 

[Shizune]

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Wad is likely scum, we should lynch him instead of Cooler this DP to be frank. He also claimed Iwan on top of that. No way is that a Town role.

 

[Badalight]

Wad is a candidate in the other lynch. We can't lynch him. We can't lynch any of them.

 

[Shizune]

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And wow, I actually find myself agreeing with Bada for once. Weird times

.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Well, then I guess they lynch Ratchet. No idea if that's a good thing or not.

 

[Badalight]

@Flower Ratchet is claiming being unlynchable. lol

 

[Ratchet]

Because I didn't see the original post. I have no idea what it said. I only see what exists right now. If you're really leaning on a mistake by the host to prove your innocence, I think you've got some soul searching to do

You literally just need to read the posts that are currently in the thread as they are.

 

[Shizune]

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I thought he was talking about the lynch from last DP soecifically. But if the lynch fails, then lynching him is pointless anyway, so no idea what the Survivors in the thread think they're doing.

 

[Santí]

that could be big

what is santi trying to do to flower?

could be vig kill or some sort of buff

maybe u saved her lol

Flower wasn't my target. Someone threw sand in my eyes.

 

[Badalight]

You literally just need to read the posts that are currently in the thread as they are.

It literally says nothing about you tanking a lynch.

 

[Shizune]

@Ratchet

broadcast message:

What is your role name?

 

[Karma]

Flower wasn't my target. Someone threw sand in my eyes.

I was redirected last night too

 

[Underworld Broker]

Wpk was still not to be found

 

[Ratchet]

It literally says nothing about you tanking a lynch.

Read all the Posts Shizune made.

@Ratchet

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I can't discuss the details. I will say I thought Juan was going to be the lynch, so maybe think about my posts towards him at that time.

 

[Ratchet]

Broadcaster my answer is yes.

 

[Shizune]

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Ratchet is good. Judging by his role name which I just found out, there is a slim chance that person is scum.

 

[Badalight]

@Flower How does finding out the name of his role change your opinion?

 

[Shizune]

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It does because a claim restriction adds up now. And Townies having lynch immunity is not far-fetched given the vote power tampering. And Ratchet's wagon built up too fast for him to be scum on top of that. So he's good.

 

[Ratchet]

@Flower You can if you like, I just wontybe able to discuss it further once people know. Frankly, you may as well reveal it.

 

[Shizune]

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Ratchet is Karma.

 

[Badalight]

@Flower But the ratchet wagon wasn't even the final wagon. The juan one is the one that swelled up right at the end. I definitely think someone who is unlynchable is more likely to be town than mafia, but then again, this game probably has fewer mafia roles but stronger ones.

Need I remind you that my role has yet to show up. My most famous role was in favorite 3 where I was an unlynchable mafia gf. I wouldn't be surprised if Nitty took inspiration from that role.

 

[Ratchet]

@Flower But the ratchet wagon wasn't even the final wagon. The juan one is the one that swelled up right at the end. I definitely think someone who is unlynchable is more likely to be town than mafia, but then again, this game probably has fewer mafia roles but stronger ones.

Need I remind you that my role has yet to show up. My most famous role was in favorite 3 where I was an unlynchable mafia gf. I wouldn't be surprised if Nitty took inspiration from that role.

Look. At. The. Vote. Count. Please.

 

[Badalight]

@Flower Claim is one thing. Doesn't mean the claim is legitimate. Think of the scenario where one of his scummates is Karma, or one of the janitored roles is Karma. He can easily make that claim in that case.

 

[Badalight]

Also is this not all slightly irrelevant because we can't even lynch ratchet in this thread anyway? He's in the survivor one and he's probably getting lynched there. We literally have to come up with 2 other targets in this thread alone.

 

[Shizune]

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The Juan wagon didn't build up at all. The Ratchet wagon got a lot of votes and that despite the fact that LG was a top suspect. So I don't get your point.

 

[Badalight]

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But LG was town... your argument is that the ratchet wagon built up fast to get the vote off of scum. But LG was in the lead (and ended up getting lynched regardless). Why would scum want to move their votes off of a town onto ratchet? Makes zero sense.

 

[Badalight]

The much more likely scenario is that scum was happy with the lg lynch, some town realized lg was also town and changed their lynches off of him, and scum still wanted lg dead so they did some vote fuckery.

 

[Shizune]

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To prevent LG from flipping and protect one of their own from being in danger? You are aware that Nessos has still not flipped, right?

 

[Shizune]

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Also again, Juan had three votes on him. The fact LG was lynched regardless shows somebody on the LG wagon had massive voting power.

 

[Shizune]

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If a double targetter gets redirected, just the first target is usually changed, right?

 

[Iwandesu]

Apparently results were tampered with.

based on what ?

 

[Badalight]

@Flower Your logic makes no sense. Mafia obviously wanted LG to die because that's who died. What reasoning would there be for them moving their votes onto ratchet at the last second if the plan was to kill LG regardless?

And how does any of that paint ratchet as town?

 

[Ratchet]

@Flower Your logic makes no sense. Mafia obviously wanted LG to die because that's who died. What reasoning would there be for them moving their votes onto ratchet at the last second if the plan was to kill LG regardless?

And how does any of that paint ratchet as town?

Dude. Please. Read.

LG was the second wagon. I had 8 votes. Scum thought I would be lynched. Because I was immune, it went to LG. This really isn't hard.

 

[Iwandesu]

Broadcast message:

Hmmm
Didnt sin got some specific abilities ?
If not then this might be truth

 

[Badalight]

Dude. Please. Read.

LG was the second wagon. I had 8 votes. Scum thought I would be lynched. Because I was immune, it went to LG. This really isn't hard.

Mate. You are changing your story. Did you tank the lynch or not? Tanking to lynch would mean you were the majority and the lynch simply failed. If it went onto the second person, that is not "tanking" the lynch. Tanking the lynch is what I did in favorites 3 where the lynch hit me and failed. It didn't move onto the second person.

The confusion is coming from you using the wrong terms here. Don't blame me for that.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

What sort of ability did you use?

Must have been tampered with.



Kvothe with that opportunistic vote.

I targeted three players. I doubt it was tampered with because I was immune to roleblocks and redirects last night. Unless there is specifically a bus driver who can switch the actual target locations this should be accurate.

The nature of my ability picks three players and if any of those three players are scum and have used a hostile action on me I learn they’re guilty if so.

@is a @Underworld Broker

why were you two so sure about aragorn?

Because even if Aragorn flipped Town, this wasn’t Town Aragorn. Period.

 

[Shizune]

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I just clarified with the host that Nessos would have gotten two names as LG's targets if LG was indeed redirected because a redirector only changes the first target if their target has two or more targets. So he should have gotten two names and not just Jojo. That combined with his missing names today is a huge red flag.


And what part does it let it seem like scums wanted LG gone when LG just had 4 voters on him?

 

[Iwandesu]

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The guy claimed to be investigator and came up with his role (which is me apparently) and you want to lynch him ?|
i mean i do think my role should be sucm so meh

 

[Iwandesu]

But you should consider this kind of shit lmao

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

@Flower

I’m not a part of any cult or whatever. Frankly I don’t care if Cooler gets lynched now or is killed at night. Unless he provides a full claim and somehow manages to convince me that my very hard to manipulate ability was somehow compromised he just so happens to be the first player I’ve mechanically confirmed as scum.

How do I know you’re not mafia, weren’t recruited by mafia, Cooler is mafia, and now you’re bringing up this angle as a means of defending him?

 

[Ratchet]

Mate. You are changing your story. Did you tank the lynch or not? Tanking to lynch would mean you were the majority and the lynch simply failed. If it went onto the second person, that is not "tanking" the lynch. Tanking the lynch is what I did in favorites 3 where the lynch hit me and failed. It didn't move onto the second person.

The confusion is coming from you using the wrong terms here. Don't blame me for that.

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Let me start again.

I had 8 votes.

That made me the one lynched.

Because I cannot be lynched, the lynch failed on me.

Because it failed on me, as in, I could not be lynched, it went onto the second wagon.

The second wagon was LG.

This is why LG was lynched.

All of this is made nice and clear if you simply go and count the votes made at the end of the day phase.

 

[Cooler]

I targeted three players. I doubt it was tampered with because I was immune to roleblocks and redirects last night. Unless there is specifically a bus driver who can switch the actual target locations this should be accurate.

The nature of my ability picks three players and if any of those three players are scum and have used a hostile action on me I learn they’re guilty if so.



Because even if Aragorn flipped Town, this wasn’t Town Aragorn. Period.

Well I haven't targetted you with anything and I'm not scum so you must have been bus drived.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Well I haven't targetted you with anything and I'm not scum so you must have been bus drived.

How about you claim then because that seems awfully convenient for you.

 

[Badalight]

...

Let me start again.

I had 8 votes.

That made me the one lynched.

Because I cannot be lynched, the lynch failed on me.

Because it failed on me, as in, I could not be lynched, it went onto the second wagon.

The second wagon was LG.

This is why LG was lynched.

All of this is made nice and clear if you simply go and count the votes made at the end of the day phase.

Then don't say you "tanked" a lynch because that's not what you did at all. Tanking is what I did in favorites 3. Don't get uppity with me when you're using bad terminology.

 

[Shizune]

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Shading you when you're already a target for lynch today anyway because of your scummy behaviour? If I was scum I wouldn't need to do that in the first place. You're doing a good job of acting scummy by yourself.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Lol bada

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

who is that message directed at

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

You know exactly who I'm talking to.

 

[Underworld Broker]

We need a plan on how we gonna do the lynching today

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

no I don’t flower stop being indirect
if that’s targeted at me then you are just straight up objectively wrong for mechanical reasons

But context reading says ur suggesting me

so ur either being dumb or willfully obtuse

 

[Underworld Broker]

Other thread is getting intense

 

[Iwandesu]

Broadcast message:

You think there is a slim chance legend is scum ?
I think he is a perfect scum minion
Then again he is likely lying to begin with
Legend has nothing to do with either unlynchable nor unable to speak about himself

 

[Worm Juice]

Other thread is getting intense

Oh no what is happening

 

[Badalight]

yeah why the fuck are we talking about either wad or ratchet. We can't lynch either of them. Let the island survivors figure that shit out.

Atm we have cooler. Let's put cooler on lynch 1.

Who do we got for lynch 2?

 

[Underworld Broker]

Oh no what is happening

Just read it lol

 

[Badalight]

You think there is a slim chance legend is scum ?
I think he is a perfect scum minion
Then again he is likely lying to begin with
Legend has nothing to do with either unlynchable nor unable to speak about himself

Fucking thank you. Think about what role is most likely to be unlynchable. If you come to any conclusion that isn't "badaroach" you are wrong.

 

[Underworld Broker]

yeah why the fuck are we talking about either wad or ratchet. We can't lynch either of them. Let the island survivors figure that shit out.

Atm we have cooler. Let's put cooler on lynch 1.

Who do we got for lynch 2?

Kvothe has to go, I've already stated why multiple times

 

[Worm Juice]

Just read it lol

Who has time for that

 

[Underworld Broker]

But uuhh if she is the mysterious thing she left the game for a while so prolly cant get targeted?

 

[Worm Juice]

Is a is so intense though

[Vote lynch is a]

 

[Underworld Broker]

Who has time for that

A townie sure should have time for that

 

[Badalight]

Kvothe has to go, I've already stated why multiple times

Ah right, I forgot about her.

But yeah. A little worried she can't be lynched this phase.

 

[Worm Juice]

Oh wait no changed my mind

[Change vote lynch Underworld Broker]

 

[Badalight]

Is a is so intense though

[Vote lynch is a]

plz read the thread

 

[Worm Juice]

plz read the thread

After getting my university degrees I vouched never to read again.

 

[Karma]

Ratchet is claiming indie?

 

[Underworld Broker]

Oh wait no changed my mind

[Change vote lynch Underworld Broker]

Do you have vote power or is it at -1?

 

[Underworld Broker]

@Worm Juice are you town?

 

[Iwandesu]

Come on wish dude
Freeeee me

 

[Cooler]

Other thread is getting intense

Yo what's this other thread? lol

 

[Underworld Broker]

Yo what's this other thread? lol

Theres a survivor thread that's part of this game, it got linked in night write up

 

[Badalight]

Wish granter, I wish the survivor island was gone and all of them took part in the normal lynches.

 

[Iwandesu]

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How is legend having a claim restriction something that adds ?

 

[Badalight]

How is legend having a claim restriction something that adds ?

Flower says he claimed karma, not legend.

 

[Shizune]

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@ Wad

What "mechanical reasons"? You straight up pushed for the " LG is scum, Nessos is right" angle yesterday. You don't consider Cooler could be Town either. You are not considering possibilities at all. LG saying the truth became blatantly obvious after I put him through a "stress test" and yet you guys weren't changing votes afterwards. You're powering through like you did last game. And your supposed result also reminds me of your play last game where you framed LM. You are powerwolfing again and given how nobody is actually trying to deflect from Cooler after your claim is just adding to this.