Underworld Broker
4th Harbinger
[Vote lynch John Wayne]
He vanished in the middle of our argument
He vanished in the middle of our argument

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What are you thinking?
Cooooo? (Lol tagging him multiple times for this isn't going to make him do it faster
I've fake claimed Miller before so it's not too much of a stretch to think I'm doing it this timeCooooo? (Lol tagging him multiple times for this isn't going to make him do it faster)
Cooo! Cooo! (But some general thoughts he's had reading back through the game:
There's a couple of main people that stand out to Okosan for one reason or another, though not all of them being scum. Not as many people as normal are pinging Okosan for that. On the town side we've got WPK, Ratchet, WAD (all for obvious reasons), and then Okosan is actually leaning town on Leeroy. Okosan was very familiar with how Leeroy was posting during favorites as scum, and maybe it's just the sheer size of that game messing with it but his posts seem genuine enough here. Okosan could very easily see scum trying to push a Leeroy lynch just because it wouldn't be too hard
For scum / people we should look more into we've got Odd and Kira. Kira hasn't really posted anything of substance so far. His posts have either been exclusively (and only lightly) pushing Nevan as possible scum, and he's only really been asking other people for their reads instead of furthering the discussion himself. Besides that his posts have been mechanic related or just fluff.
For Odd Okosan doesn't think people should just accept his miller claim. First, for knowing he's going to look suspicious this game he's barely posted anything to help clear his name. Second, his activity has only really spiked to throw out said Miller claim. Could've just been him trying to get out ahead of a possible invest. And finally, out of everyone in the game that could possibly fake claim as a miller Odd would be his number one choice. People seem too keen on letting us focus on other people.)
I've fake claimed Miller before so it's not too much of a stretch to think I'm doing it this time
My activity level is down because I'm having some major internet problems but again I've lied about that sort of thing before
Because I've also been an actual Miller a couple of times and I've had irl get in my way before, it's completely null at this stageSoooooo, why should we believe you now and not just vig you and lynch ddl?
I kinda get that. I don't really know much about Warcraft myself.Tbh whenever I play a Shizune game I end up feeling lost because these games seem designed in a way that only people who know the source material can play it.
What usually happens is that there is a clique of Warcraft players who know what's going on and the rest of us are just spectators.
So getting D1'd in a Shizune game because of that seems normal.
No offense, Shizune, but I felt like I had to let that out.
He should just do like what you did right?I kinda get that. I don't really know much about Warcraft myself.
But you did corner yourself by saying you could win with mafia. That's never going to gain you much trust from town.
Tbh whenever I play a Shizune game I end up feeling lost because these games seem designed in a way that only people who know the source material can play it.
What usually happens is that there is a clique of Warcraft players who know what's going on and the rest of us are just spectators.
So getting D1'd in a Shizune game because of that seems normal.
No offense, Shizune, but I felt like I had to let that out.
He should just do like what you did right?![]()
The guy I quoted aboveAyyy, who do you have scum reads on right now?
The guy I quoted above![]()
And what have i done good sirHe should just do like what you did right?![]()
You've done nothing, that's whyAnd what have i done good sir![]()
Cooo! (Okosan never knows what the flavor is tbh)>Signing up for game where you're not even mildly familiar with the flavor
Loser talk![]()
Yes.Do replacement players fill the exact same role/character/abilities as whoever they replaced?
Yup ~Do replacement players fill the exact same role/character/abilities as whoever they replaced?
Well that's embarrassing, it was right there for me to seeYou've done nothing, that's why
And not a sir ~
Yup ~
I'm not a sub tho![]()
Bingo ~So, to be completely clear, you're straight up added to the game after the fact and have an original role?
You're pretty neutralish and play it safe imoWell that's embarrassing, it was right there for me to see
In so far as my actions this game or rather inaction. I guess? I should probably have cast a vote earlier since I did have an idea what it was I wanted to see happen. And I stated that in one of my earlier posts (pretty much find out Oreki's alignment and go from there).
That's in the past though and seems a bit fruitless to push that line of thought since everyone has moved off of that. I honestly don't have solid reads as I usually take a bit more time to piece things together.
Leeroy's one I've been keeping my eye on.
I mentioned LG and Melodie as "gut feeling" reads before, but having gone back and read a bit more I don't really feel all that strongly about those reads any more.
Assuming I survive the rest of the cycle, anyone in particular I should watch actions on tonight?
(I haven't actually had a watcher role. I feel like it would be very strong....if I hadn't outed myself on calling out someone on a lie that didn't actually exist earlier. *Side eyes Shizy.*)
Oh nice, keep adding themYou know what... I'm also going to add Dr.White as a person of interest. He voted WPK after the 24 hour mark passed and then said that he hadn't read the OP. Yet he'd posted a number of times before that (two close to the start of the game and at least one other after that). And I guess that's a possibility, since I've done that before, but still...
Wouldn't that be a tracker, rather than a Watcher? Or did you watch WPK as soon as WAD said he was targeting him?Assuming I survive the rest of the cycle, anyone in particular I should watch actions on tonight?
(I haven't actually had a watcher role. I feel like it would be very strong....if I hadn't outed myself on calling out someone on a lie that didn't actually exist earlier. *Side eyes Shizy.*)
Nah, like I said within that post I haven't seen anything from them (LG and Melodie in particular) to really make them stand out any more than they did initially.You're pretty neutralish and play it safe imo
No other read other than those 4? You have mentioned them earlier but it seems like your read is not growing![]()
Assuming I have teammatesOh nice, keep adding them
Bus your team mates please. You're limiting your read way too much
What's your thought on DDL and Odd?
That would be a Tracker then.Not actually sure the terms? I was watching WAD's actions.
Which players stand out to you now? The one who deserve your vote ~Nah, like I said within that post I haven't seen anything from them (LG and Melodie in particular) to really make them stand out any more than they did initially.
I think you haveAssuming I have teammates![]()
Yea you're scum, too much sitting on the fenceHonestly don't have much to add about DDL that hasn't already been said. He's either a non-aligned indy that can win with either town or mafia (which I believe is pretty much what he said) or he's a gf that overplayed his hand. Would tend to lean towards the former more than the latter.
Odd, I don't necessarily trust. I don't think I've ever played in any games with Odd, but he says that he's made miller claims before that have gone both ways (truthful or lies).
Watcher: You get to know whoever targets WAD for the phase.Not actually sure the terms? I was watching WAD's actions.
Have we not been discussing this? Just read that again. I said they don't stand out any MORE than they initially did. As in they are still players I'm keeping an eye on.Which players stand out to you now? The one who deserve your vote ~
Not sure what's "sitting" on the fence about saying I don't trust either.Yea you're scum, too much sitting on the fence
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I ask you again, a very simple questionHave we not been discussing this? Just read that again. I said they don't stand out any MORE than they initially did. As in they are still players I'm keeping an eye on.
Not sure what's "sitting" on the fence about saying I don't trust either.
[Vote lynch Oddjutsu]I ask you again, a very simple question
Where's your vote will be at? Your strongest scum read, who is it?
>stagnant read until questioned[Vote lynch Oddjutsu]
Unless we know majority is needed, back up wagon is normal for NF Role Madness game in case there's some lynch redirect going ondid you guys decide to split the vote and leave it to the rng god like in the first 24 hour.
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did you guys decide to split the vote and leave it to the rng god like in the first 24 hour.
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Why him over your other reads?[Vote lynch Oddjutsu]
TBH, that's generally my play style. And I know that's not a good thing to admit, but I don't really push or question anyone. In the past I probably wouldn't have even responded to you for as long as I have.>stagnant read until questioned
>adding only 1 sus after asked
>voting only after pressured
You barely interact with anyone. Not pushing anyone.
It would be better if you question your suspects but I don't see it anywhere.
Mainly because he's made a claim worth looking into.Why him over your other reads?
You didn't even look at him for hours after he claimed MillerMainly because he's made a claim worth looking into.
So you think our optimal move is to lynch a claimed miller?Mainly because he's made a claim worth looking into.
I would have looked at who was defending him, if they had valid reasons to do so or if they did it because they knew he was town.Oreki was someone that I would have rather had confirmed by the fortune teller since I think he's town. TBH I was interested in seeing how you would have reacted had he been confirmed since you were the one to question him the hardest after his claim.
Do you have any questions for him when he gets here?I want to see what Dr. White has to say when he gets back since he did say he had some reads.
I wouldn't say I didn't look at him. I just thought about it a bit more when you asked me about him.You didn't even look at him for hours after he claimed Miller
Neither he's on your list until I asked you your read on him.
Uhh Who do you want? Why would you pose this question and dip lmaoOnly a couple hours in the day so figure I'll bring it up
Night Lynch candidates
Who and why
Thx
If we have, he either used a different name or I simply don't recall him.With Ratchet revealing as town the one scenario I see him as mafia would be if he and Ratch have played together on the same community.
So you think our optimal move is to lynch a claimed miller?No, not necessarily. I just think he should be pressured on that claim more. At this point DDL is going to be lynched and I'm fine with that no matter how he flips. Can't trust someone who can win with mafia.
Honestly that's a bit tough. Considering his was the earliest claim and the subsequent wagons that formed I'm not sure I feel that his reveal would have prevented someone else's. If anything I felt the WPK/DDL wagons were more to that effect than an early Oreki wagon would have been. I had stated why I didn't support a WPK wagon (thought it was silly to suspect an inactive) and DDL wagon was self inflicted, which I feel was a distraction from other discussions.I would have looked at who was defending him, if they had valid reasons to do so or if they did it because they knew he was town.
Also see if his reveal was to prevent someone else's.
What would you have done?
yeah i'm gonna be honest lol, i got a mouth issue and haven't eaten anything since like wednesday nigh
Uhh Who do you want? Why would you pose this question and dip lmao
If you don't believe he's the optimal lynch why did you vote him?No, not necessarily. I just think he should be pressured on that claim more. At this point DDL is going to be lynched and I'm fine with that no matter how he flips. Can't trust someone who can win with mafia.
You didn't answer my question.Honestly that's a bit tough. Considering his was the earliest claim and the subsequent wagons that formed I'm not sure I feel that his reveal would have prevented someone else's. If anything I felt the WPK/DDL wagons were more to that effect than an early Oreki wagon would have been. I had stated why I didn't support a WPK wagon (thought it was silly to suspect an inactive) and DDL wagon was self inflicted, which I feel was a distraction from other discussions.
Well you didn't posit anything to your own question posed and ended on a "thx" note. Implying you want other people to do the work for youI didn't dip no one answered till now![]()
What are your proposals for the night lynch?I didn't dip no one answered till now![]()
Well you didn't posit anything to your own question posed and ended on a "thx" note. Implying you want other people to do the work for you![]()
Santi - Reads power wolf so far. I have seen him pay town like this once before that was long ago in CoTH I believe. He just seems aggressive and present rather than genuinly doing the aforementioned things to solve as opposed to appearing so. So yeah lean wolf.
I literally explained why I haven't been around this game. Why don't you read instead of throwing these terrible jabs of shade.You've been oddly passive this game, maybe this is your actual townie playstyle.
What? How did you get me town reading you lmao? I literally said you were power wolfing and said I lean scum on you. I simply claimed I was wrong once before about you being scum when you played similar.I'm not sure what the implication here is. You appear to be leaning town on me but I consider power wolfing more a scum strategy and I'm infamous for winning games as scum using this strat.
I literally explained why I haven't been around this game. Why don't you read instead of throwing these terrible jabs of shade.
You didn't. You don't even know what my "town play" is, and you were musing about my passivity with a passive aggressive jab.Implying you're town is throwing jabs mhm k.
What? How did you get me town reading you lmao? I literally said you were power wolfing and said I lean scum on you. I simply claimed I was wrong once before about you being scum when you played similar.
You didn't. You don't even know what my "town play" is, and you were musing about my passivity with a passive aggressive jab.
So do you want anything ,ya know, substantial from me? Or was that first remark all you have?
I'm not. I'm simply calling out your fluff for what it is.You're acting very defensive here, why's that?
As an alternate form of pressuring. In so far as pressuring him myself through posts, I'm honestly not sure what else I could say to him to draw anything more out of him. I think his interactions earlier showed pretty much the extent of what his replies would be to questioning his miller claim. He hasn't been around since then.If you don't believe he's the optimal lynch why did you vote him?
Why don't you pressure him yourself?
I probably would have pressured you to the best of my abilities (which if it isn't obvious already I'm not all that good at).You didn't answer my question.
What would you have done?
No questions. In so far as his reads I'd agree with Oreki being town, his 50/50 read of Mel, Cooler/Nova's laying low (although I don't feel strongly about them being scum at the moment), Odd being scum, and Katsu as being legit. Disagree with DDL not being worth the risk and my being scum. Indifferent/undecided on the rest.Also any question for Dr. White and thoughts on his reads?
Lynch Genome during the night phase. He's always super hard to read.
Well you didn't posit anything to your own question posed and ended on a "thx" note. Implying you want other people to do the work for you![]()