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Day 1:

Balnazzar would have either not voted or been reluctant to vote DDL and only bus him at the end when his lynch was unavoidable. Possibly:

Shark Skin
Nevan
Underworld Broker
Oreki
No vote from the player Wild replaced (forgot who)


To compare that with people who would have voted for Platinum on D3 or voted him only later down the line when it was unavoidable:

Broki (voted for him last)
Oreki (though he voted for another SC)
Wild
Expo (Oh man if he is scum he is GOOD at mafia)

I saw no reason to vote DDL as i wanted him vigged

I voted Kira and Platinum previous day, so in either case i would've hit SC so it wouldn't have mattered if i was last on Plat :maybe

Broki being scum would be mind blown.

Ikr
 
Uh...
if Shizune follows the lore

isn't it more possible for Balnazzar to get rid of the Reds to necro them later?
https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Risen_(organization)
The Risen is a faction of undead Forsaken (led by demons)
Following the assault on Stratholme, Balnazzar shed his disguise and killed the remaining Scarlet Crusaders within the city. With great pleasure, Balnazzar then used his necromantic powers to resurrect them
no need to be hesitant on bussing them to grab them town cred :dank
 
Well hello there

[Vote Lynch Kira Yagami]

[vote kira yagami]

I am loyal to the banshee queen Lady Sylvanas

@sworder your truth serum works after lynch right? You mentioned waiting for the next night phase to clear Melodie though I imagine it'll be for white this phase.

[Vote Lynch Kira Yagami]

I think we need to put Nova in the same boat as White right now. He's got a similar vibe to me as White, where it's kinda looking sus as fuck right now to me, but still plausible enough townie claims.

I guess I'm gonna take the gamble on Kira, since I have been mixed on him the entire time.

[vote lynch Kira]

@Dr. White What faction are you

This night phase will end with a wasted truth serum :facepalm

[Vote Lynch Kira]

I’d much prefer lynching aizen tho :(

The order of the night votes.

I quoted 3 of Wild/Cubey's posts because there is a five-hour window separating the first from the last. So he is the last to vote for Kira(Scarlet Crusade). He also expresses reluctance in voting him (evident from being last to vote, not voting for hours after he posted, and desiring a different lynch target).

We can pretty much safely determine Cubey is not Hakkar mafia, but quite possibly Scarlet Crusade.

On the other side, nova bringing up Kira to be lynched kind of does help alleviate nova from being associated with Scarlet Crusade, but can very well be Hakkar mafia which matches his lazy, procrastinating playstyle thus far which suits Hakkar mafia now that they are at their strongest.
 
The order of the night votes.

I quoted 3 of Wild/Cubey's posts because there is a five-hour window separating the first from the last. So he is the last to vote for Kira(Scarlet Crusade). He also expresses reluctance in voting him (evident from being last to vote, not voting for hours after he posted, and desiring a different lynch target).

We can pretty much safely determine Cubey is not Hakkar mafia, but quite possibly Scarlet Crusade.

On the other side, nova bringing up Kira to be lynched kind of does help alleviate nova from being associated with Scarlet Crusade, but can very well be Hakkar mafia which matches his lazy, procrastinating playstyle thus far which suits Hakkar mafia now that they are at their strongest.

You’re using timestamps as your primary argument? :drake
 
You’re using timestamps as your primary argument? :drake

It's supplementary. Not just the difference between your first post and vote, but the fact that you WERE the last to vote Kira, you expressed some kind of reluctance in voting him (wish we could vote AIZEN), you have been denying the possibility of any remaining scum among the night voters, shade's strange behavior, etc.

There's not nearly enough to convict you, but if any of the night voters are indeed scum, you are top suspect by FAR.
 
Why not? You must have a one-shot or an active. Everyone does.
I do have an active ability which something will be useless if I told you about the ability.. beside that I have nigh kill shot which I got when someone role crushed me and that attack converted a kill shot for me... I was thinking to use it on Nova last NP cuz of little hunch and the way he was playing but I wasn't sure so I decide not to use that now

Hey there. Question, why would a bulletproof dwarf need armor that gives extra lives?

@is a a quick Google search showed me Kirin Tor mages in the forsaken.
I think lives and being bulletproof are two separate things, bulletproof that I will just able to survive reg kill.. and lives for the kills that bypass reg kills... I am not so sure about this either but how it is.

You're protected from his role crush? How?
If someone tries to role crush me I turn that role crush into a kill
 
I do have an active ability which something will be useless if I told you about the ability.. beside that I have nigh kill shot which I got when someone role crushed me and that attack converted a kill shot for me... I was thinking to use it on Nova last NP cuz of little hunch and the way he was playing but I wasn't sure so I decide not to use that now


I think lives and being bulletproof are two separate things, bulletproof that I will just able to survive reg kill.. and lives for the kills that bypass reg kills... I am not so sure about this either but how it is.


If someone tries to role crush me I turn that role crush into a kill

well use your abilities tonight fam
 
It's supplementary. Not just the difference between your first post and vote, but the fact that you WERE the last to vote Kira, you expressed some kind of reluctance in voting him (wish we could vote AIZEN), you have been denying the possibility of any remaining scum among the night voters, shade's strange behavior, etc.

There's not nearly enough to convict you, but if any of the night voters are indeed scum, you are top suspect by FAR.

I mean ok that’s fair but calling me scum because I wanted to scumhunt more ppl rather than just Kira isn’t good scumhunting. It was obvious Kira was going, and while I had no issue with that, why not sleuth as many people as possible? We had a whole 36 hours to theorize who could be mafia. Instead we just tunneled on the one guy we were lynching anyways.
 
I think lives and being bulletproof are two separate things, bulletproof that I will just able to survive reg kill.. and lives for the kills that bypass reg kills... I am not so sure about this either but how it is.

2. There are two levels of kills: regular and super. Regular kills can be stopped by roleblocking the killer or protecting the victim, and consume one life from roles with multiple lives. Superkills bypass all defenses, roleblocks and bonus lives. Superkills can be redirected.

^there's some info on game-related stuff in the opening posts of nitty
 
I mean ok that’s fair but calling me scum because I wanted to scumhunt more ppl rather than just Kira isn’t good scumhunting. It was obvious Kira was going, and while I had no issue with that, why not sleuth as many people as possible? We had a whole 36 hours to theorize who could be mafia. Instead we just tunneled on the one guy we were lynching anyways.

either way im not concerned with you rn because its pretty evident that you're not Gurubashi mafia and i think it goes without saying everyone's focus should be on Gurubashi > SC if possible cause fuck Hakkar
 
1. novaselinenever - Claimed former Kirin Tor now Forsaken
2. Oddjutsu - Claimed Steamwheedle.
3. Juan - ?
4. Leeroy Jenkins - Claimed/Pseudo-confirmed Chromie (With Town Win Con).
5. Kvothe Kingkiller - Forsaken, likely.
6. A Optimistic - Confirmed Azerothian
7. is a - Confirmed Azerothian
8. Tiger - Claimed Steamwheedle.
9. Shark Skin - ?
10. Sworder - Forsaken, not Sylvanas.
11. Wild - Claimed Forsaken
12. Melodie - ? (Town points for the hunting of Platinum and Kira)
13. Nevan - ?
14. A I Z E N - ?

15. WPK - Confirmed Kirin Tor
16. Okosan - Confirmed Town (by me)
17. Oreki - Claimed Khaz'Modan. Lie detected as Town.
18. Underworld Broker - ? (Lie Detected as Town).
19. Expo - ?
20. Didi - ?
21. Poutanko - Confirmed Silver Hand
22. Ratchet - Confirmed Town Silver Hand

In this list we have approximately 3-5 scum left. Scarlet Crusade likely has two members left at most (Balnazzar + Herod?) while Gurubashi has 1, maybe two more left.

The only other possible scum would be a Katrana Prestor becoming Onyxia.
 
1. novaselinenever - Claimed former Kirin Tor now Forsaken
2. Oddjutsu - Claimed Steamwheedle.
3. Juan - ?
4. Leeroy Jenkins - Claimed/Pseudo-confirmed Chromie (With Town Win Con).
5. Kvothe Kingkiller - Forsaken, likely.
6. A Optimistic - Confirmed Azerothian
7. is a - Confirmed Azerothian
8. Tiger - Claimed Steamwheedle.
9. Shark Skin - ?
10. Sworder - Forsaken, not Sylvanas.
11. Wild - Claimed Forsaken
12. Melodie - ? (Town points for the hunting of Platinum and Kira)
13. Nevan - ?
14. A I Z E N - ?

15. WPK - Confirmed Kirin Tor
16. Okosan - Confirmed Town (by me)
17. Oreki - Claimed Khaz'Modan. Lie detected as Town.
18. Underworld Broker - ? (Lie Detected as Town).
19. Expo - ?
20. Didi - ?
21. Poutanko - Confirmed Silver Hand
22. Ratchet - Confirmed Town Silver Hand

In this list we have approximately 3-5 scum left. Scarlet Crusade likely has two members left at most (Balnazzar + Herod?) while Gurubashi has 1, maybe two more left.

The only other possible scum would be a Katrana Prestor becoming Onyxia.

You say Sworder isn't Sylvanas? The only other forsaken would be Wild as Sylvanas then cause I'm not Sylvanas. And to my knowledge Sylvanas isn't Kirin Tor..
 
1. novaselinenever - Claimed former Kirin Tor now Forsaken
2. Oddjutsu - Claimed Steamwheedle.
3. Juan - ?
4. Leeroy Jenkins - Claimed/Pseudo-confirmed Chromie (With Town Win Con).
5. Kvothe Kingkiller - Forsaken, likely.
6. A Optimistic - Confirmed Azerothian
7. is a - Confirmed Azerothian
8. Tiger - Claimed Steamwheedle.
9. Shark Skin - ?
10. Sworder - Forsaken, not Sylvanas.
11. Wild - Claimed Forsaken
12. Melodie - ? (Town points for the hunting of Platinum and Kira)
13. Nevan - ?
14. A I Z E N - ?

15. WPK - Confirmed Kirin Tor
16. Okosan - Confirmed Town (by me)
17. Oreki - Claimed Khaz'Modan. Lie detected as Town.
18. Underworld Broker - ? (Lie Detected as Town).
19. Expo - ?
20. Didi - ?
21. Poutanko - Confirmed Silver Hand
22. Ratchet - Confirmed Town Silver Hand

In this list we have approximately 3-5 scum left. Scarlet Crusade likely has two members left at most (Balnazzar + Herod?) while Gurubashi has 1, maybe two more left.

The only other possible scum would be a Katrana Prestor becoming Onyxia.


Aight in that case
I'm town
Sure Aizen is town as well

I'm convinced both Nevan and Nova are scum


so
that leaves Juan, SS, Melodie, Expo and Cubey as the primary targets, right?

Out of those, if I had to pick in order
Cubey
Juan
Melodie
SS
Expo


I'd think
but this is ofc only based off of 1 DP + shit you guys have been saying
 
@Didi get your head in the game

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On the one hand, Gunther was relatively unimportant and it might be weird having him in a game with kings and high priestesses and archmages

On the other hand, he was memorable enough for low lvl Horde questers that Shiz might've thrown him in the game just for the flavor and settin .

Hard to say tbh

But Novase hasn't done much to convince anyone otherwise that I can recall
 
You say Sworder isn't Sylvanas? The only other forsaken would be Wild as Sylvanas then cause I'm not Sylvanas. And to my knowledge Sylvanas isn't Kirin Tor..

sworder declared allegiance to her, unless he's trying to reverse psychology others from thinking he's her.

didnt you say kartana is an evil dragon or smth? why she blue on your list

Because she would very much appear to be Azerothian for the time being. Is the Royal Adviser to the king and all that jazz. Her turning is a very likely possibility.

For the record, I think you're her. :ufdup


Oh. :doggokek
 
Aight in that case
I'm town
Sure Aizen is town as well

I'm convinced both Nevan and Nova are scum


so
that leaves Juan, SS, Melodie, Expo and Cubey as the primary targets, right?

Out of those, if I had to pick in order
Cubey
Juan
Melodie
SS
Expo


I'd think
but this is ofc only based off of 1 DP + shit you guys have been saying

*primary remaining targets
1-3 out of those 5 should be scum if I'm understanding it correctly
assuming Nova and Nevan do indeed flip scum
 
On the one hand, Gunther was relatively unimportant and it might be weird having him in a game with kings and high priestesses and archmages

On the other hand, he was memorable enough for low lvl Horde questers that Shiz might've thrown him in the game just for the flavor and settin .

Hard to say tbh

But Novase hasn't done much to convince anyone otherwise that I can recall

My character is hard to remember. I'm only here because of who my father is. A high-profile Kirin Tor.

@is a I'm comfortable putting Wild as Sylvanas without others countering.

Also, you should put Expo as blue. For me.
 
Also, I have a case for Melodie being Gurubashi.

Here are two of the night convos from Night 1:

I can go with Melodie tho

I agree with the neutering of wad.

At some point in the game, Melodie did soft suggest that the mention of her by potential anti-town increased her likelihood to be perceived as town.

We established quite swiftly on Day 2 that the second message was Gurubashi in origin since they're the ones that rolecrushed me, so even if the message was referring to a hostile action targeting her it wouldn't have been from the faction she's being suspected from.

Fun Fact: She only mentioned or talked about the confirmed Dead Gurubashis, Dr. White and Katsuargi, ONCE EACH the entire game!

Dr. White possibly learning stuff from katsuragi chain is low-key the best thing u said pou. I buy it

Her only namedrop of Dr. White, ever.

If katsu was mafia why in the hell would he reveal such information so soon so abruptly. :lul

his tilt alone makes me think he's the easiest one to view as town.

Her only namedrop of Katsu before he died (defending him!)

Her list, if you would recall is the following:

Kira, platinum, c.c or nevan

I know for a fact at least on of those is mafia, and I'm betting on platinum

Conveniently, only listing Scarlet Crusade scum!

Of course, she could very well be Town. Sure, its possible.

But I think I have presented fairly decent circumstantial evidence as to why she can just as easily be Gurubashi.
 
The Steamwheedle Cartel and The Forsaken killed Dr. White (Jin'do the Hexxer)!

1. novaselinenever - Claimed former Kirin Tor now Forsaken
2. Oddjutsu - Claimed Steamwheedle.
3. Juan - ?
4. Leeroy Jenkins - Claimed/Pseudo-confirmed Chromie (With Town Win Con).
5. Kvothe Kingkiller - Forsaken, likely.
6. A Optimistic - Confirmed Azerothian
7. is a - Confirmed Azerothian
8. Tiger - Claimed Steamwheedle.
9. Shark Skin - ?
10. Sworder - Forsaken, not Sylvanas.
11. Wild - Claimed Forsaken
12. Melodie - ? (Town points for the hunting of Platinum and Kira)
13. Nevan - ?
14. A I Z E N - ?

15. WPK - Confirmed Kirin Tor
16. Okosan - Confirmed Town (by me)
17. Oreki - Claimed Khaz'Modan. Lie detected as Town.
18. Underworld Broker - ? (Lie Detected as Town).
19. Expo - ?
20. Didi - ?
21. Poutanko - Confirmed Silver Hand
22. Ratchet - Confirmed Town Silver Hand

In this list we have approximately 3-5 scum left. Scarlet Crusade likely has two members left at most (Balnazzar + Herod?) while Gurubashi has 1, maybe two more left.

The only other possible scum would be a Katrana Prestor becoming Onyxia.
Can you please put me down as confirmed Steamwheedle
 
Nova
Juan
Shark Skin
Melodie
A I Z E N
Didi

Final mafia should be here. If not, we have a deep wolf.

Nova needs to claim. Didi said the other day he can get himself vouched for. Might be a good plan @Didi


I mean cmon Law
I said yesterday I could be vouched for
Then I also made a reply in which I knew all about the recruitment of Pou to the mason group

And then just earlier I made a post saying I was sure about Aizen being town



do I need to spell it out?

@poutanko back me up sis
 

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