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Will depend on what you flip with. Unless you mean hard confirmed scum? Otherwise, obvious I'd read your flip? What?
If you read my abilities upon my flip then there will be enough to confirm Ekko as town with borderline no doubts. I’d say 99.9% lol. And that’s being pedantic.

A full claim would be necessary to explain why I say it like that, bc my flip alone will not confirm him completely without me saying so now. I realize that probably makes no sense to you but it would later.
 
Interesting. And Rej is barely posting so they are coasting though Ekko could be POTENTIALLY town but Rej is using them as an excuse to throw off anyone from their trail by doing a protect on a hostile town player if someone watches them.
Yea, I actually forgot rej was in this game, out of all the active members it's weird to choose ekko
So your ability hasn't grown at all given we've only lynched fellow town. lol
basically lol
 
We can, but consider this - Worm Juice was the most likely lynch today, so buffing your vote isn't really of any consequence. Moreover, why specifically buff your vote, as opposed to say Fang, or Prof, or Soul, and so on. He could be Town, yes. But I don't really see a way to ignore the guilty check.
This is incorrect btw, WJ was not the most likely lynch because she's being executed (which scum would 100% know just by clicking the list of total posts), which is unaffected by vote power. The vote power buff is purely for this normal lynch, where WJ is basically the only name not on the table
 
I don't agree. All the same people aren't going to forget about his schizophrenic performance in that night vote phase. *shrug*
Given the likelihood of WJ, Scum we assume, being shot, Rej protecting Ekko to gamble on being Watched or Tracked to it and relying on a busdrive to keep WJ alive seems like a pretty strange idea. Occam's Razer would suggest Rej is town here. It does not make him confirmed Town. But given Ekko has a mech vouch on his side (and I will vouch for Prof being Town) it's enough to put Rej to the side for now. We need to focus on a few players at a time and get some wolf flips before we go into tinfoil.
 
This is incorrect btw, WJ was not the most likely lynch because she's being executed (which scum would 100% know just by clicking the list of total posts), which is unaffected by vote power. The vote power buff is purely for this normal lynch, where WJ is basically the only name not on the table
We can go back and forth on that I think, I do feel like your ability given how the lynch mechanics work is pretty weak for the town. That said, it would be absurdly strong for scum, so... point in your favour maybe?
 
I mean I am sus of Iwan which is why I used actions against him, but why is no one voting for WJ exactly?
Because he's going to be modkilled.

Btw, i'm not surprised people are being cautious, but looks like some people are dismissing guilty result right away. Tbh, why would someone busdrive Firestormer? Like, are there really no better targets? Then I remembered it's 30 people game and 10 towns have already died. For all we know it might be almost 50/50.

I'm glad my flip will be informative, even if FS gets away with this.
 
Because he's going to be modkilled.

Btw, i'm not surprised people are being cautious, but looks like some people are dismissing guilty result right away. Tbh, why would someone busdrive Firestormer? Like, are there really no better targets? Then I remembered it's 30 people game and 10 towns have already died. For all we know it might be almost 50/50.

I'm glad my flip will be informative, even if FS gets away with this.

TBF all I know is that my action hit firestormer instead of Iwan as confirmed by mod pm. I don't know if that means all abilities went to firestormer. That is why I am trying to clarify what happened to my other night action. It very much could be the case where it's this specific type of action gets redirected of Iwan. For example, Iwan has defense against magic based abilities or something of that ilk (just an example, not saying that's what I did).

bullshit

you didn't get redirected by anyone

someone day kill bada for the love of god
Yes, please go ahead and waste more kills against me. Def townie play. At this point, scum are definitely trying to get town to waste all of their shit on me.
 
Because he's going to be modkilled.

Btw, i'm not surprised people are being cautious, but looks like some people are dismissing guilty result right away. Tbh, why would someone busdrive Firestormer? Like, are there really no better targets? Then I remembered it's 30 people game and 10 towns have already died. For all we know it might be almost 50/50.

I'm glad my flip will be informative, even if FS gets away with this.
Seems like it worked so idk, must have been a pretty good target or a pretty bad cop.
 
@Fang did i somehow miss or you didn't provide results on Badalight invest? Waiting for that eagerly buddy

Btw i protected Boraxia and yet he got killed somehow 👀

SinRaven is guilty btw, so yeah we got another confirmed scum here.
My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.
 
My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.
Maybe next time don't tell who you use your abilities on🤦‍♂️

Many said you got bus drived so protection on ya would've gone to WJ even if someone tried to last night while WJ kill went to you instead.
 
I didn't say who I was using my investigation on in the last phase. :dumbpepe
My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.
Why did investigations on you in prior phases fail then?
I'm lil confused here when is your invest processed btw same night ya submit targets or the next night?
 
Like, this is a very blatant pro-town ability. I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize some 4D chess maneuver where scum benefit by giving out vote power to people not in their scum team.

If Nitty designed such a role, he'd be a total hack of a host.

Well I’m not caught up but boooy I sure hope I did not make whatever role Santi is talking about here
 
Okay Nitty clarified what happened to my first action. Miscommunication... so there was no first action, just the second one which did get redirected to firestormer. So unfortunately I cannot confirm what kind of redirect was going on, only that it worked on my second ability.

And no I am not lying. I would not lie about the mod.
I asked ya something before, tagged you.
 
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Not gonna lie, I was a little sus of Baroxio for reasons. But figured it's most likely than not he is townie based on his behavior around DrProfessor slot. Either way, we can finally deal with people who been ducking the lynching ropes for a while now like Badalight who been extremely scummy. But I am afraid he has to wait, for I believe Sin is actually scum here.


Vote Lynch: SinRaven

Vote Execute : Worm Juice
 
I don't give a shit if it's out of character Ratchet, I'm town. But go ahead and lynch me, you seem really committed to leading town into a pit so what's one more showcase of that?

[Vote lynch Firestormer]
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Not familiar this much with firestormer, but is he a dude who fake stuff like this usually? feels bit of over reaction after seeing the situation he is in. Immediately from his second post he votes himself and gives up.
 
Okay Nitty clarified what happened to my first action. Miscommunication... so there was no first action, just the second one which did get redirected to firestormer. So unfortunately I cannot confirm what kind of redirect was going on, only that it worked on my second ability.

And no I am not lying. I would not lie about the mod.

I can confirm I made a small mistake on Bada's actions last night

However this mistake was not greatly disruptive to the events of the night, or I would be publicly taking steps to rectify what happened
 
I don't trust it. I've never seen a scum role that hands out temporary vote power to players of their choice (because the lynch is town's tool to use, not theirs).

Just on the type of power he has alone, he's more likely to be pro-town than I am.
This logic is false and I would tame such expectations you expect in terms of role abilities belonging to townies or scum. This is gigantic role madness game afterall. Plus, you said that lynch is town tool, but I seen alot of hosts giving scum lynch related abilities from immunities and redirect. Does those abilities make player townie? since 'lynch is town's tool'. I wouldn't be surprised if scum has voting boost powers to have some control/competition on the lynch control.
 
Okay I am caught up, the way things are I think this is the best course of action.

We lynch Sin first, then we resolve firestormer/Iwan/Badalight/Juan situations. If charlie result on firestormer is 100% then this makes life easy and firestormer get lynched next. Then we get rid of badalight. But it feels to risky to leave the dude alive this long, I am surprised everything on him did not work apparently. He must be some big shot scum role. Also, juan calling him out on his lie is little bit alarming. Does no one in town truly is capable of killing a single player? I find that hard to believe.
 
uhm mate, check a few posts up. Nitty did hop into the thread.
I saw it, but she does not necessarily confirm anything in it, although the fact that she felt the need to publicly come to the thread and address your post does give it some SOME merit. Although, if that is the case and you truly got redirected. Then what do you make of juan? You think the dude is lying about you not getting redirected? and do you think juan is scum here?
 
I saw it, but she does not necessarily confirm anything in it, although the fact that she felt the need to publicly come to the thread and address your post does give it some SOME merit. Although, if that is the case and you truly got redirected. Then what do you make of juan? You think the dude is lying about you not getting redirected? and do you think juan is scum here?

I have literally no idea what Juan is on about. I wasn't reading Juan as scum but his post makes no sense because I said exactly what happened to me.

Also the redirect is potentially serendipitous if Firestormer does turn out to be scum.
 
Which one is more likely to be scum in your eyes? Firestormer or Iwan then?

Well Iwan was my scum read which is why I targeted him and he's doing jack all if he is town. I do agree with Santi that Firestormer's abilities seem more town than scum, but also I've seen plenty scum with vote manipulation stuff. Hell favorite 2 I believe had a scum that could stack their own votes.

I do find it odd that Iwan survived Xadlin's one shot and my ability as well. But without getting into specifics of Nitty's mistake, I'm not sure if it was Iwan who caused the redirect. I also don't believe a redirect would have worked on me either. That means the only possibility is someone else targeted Iwan/firestormer and that's what caused the redirect.

If that's the case, it would probably clear firestormer and mean I was right about Iwan. But I don't know the mechanics of how other people's alignment checks work.
 
Commenting on the firestormer situation, I really didn't like his reaction when he was put on the spot light and decided to vote himself. Felt very over reacting. Also, I didn't like how he jumped into badalight wagon, felt like he was trying to escape and push another wagon possibly pushing his scum partner? he then calmed down and started being cooperative, What pinged me too is charlie seem to be confident that fire is scum. Then badalight came with the entire iwan/firestormer redirect, which put iwan on the spot immediately, but then juan popped up and claimed that badalight is lying and that he was not redirected. I think before moving forward with this, I believe @charles101 needs to come out and confirm how confident he is on firestormer.
 

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