Game Favorites '22 - GROUP 2

[hammer]

There should be the ability to heal from it.
I see.

my abilitys also get's stronger for each mafia lynch I successfully am a part of

 

[Fang]

Fairly unlikely, really.

I don't agree. All the same people aren't going to forget about his schizophrenic performance in that night vote phase. *shrug*

 

[Fang]

my abilitys also get's stronger for each mafia lynch I successfully am a part of

So your ability hasn't grown at all given we've only lynched fellow town. lol

 

[DrProfessor83]

Will depend on what you flip with. Unless you mean hard confirmed scum? Otherwise, obvious I'd read your flip? What?

If you read my abilities upon my flip then there will be enough to confirm Ekko as town with borderline no doubts. I’d say 99.9% lol. And that’s being pedantic.

A full claim would be necessary to explain why I say it like that, bc my flip alone will not confirm him completely without me saying so now. I realize that probably makes no sense to you but it would later.

 

[hammer]

Interesting. And Rej is barely posting so they are coasting though Ekko could be POTENTIALLY town but Rej is using them as an excuse to throw off anyone from their trail by doing a protect on a hostile town player if someone watches them.

Yea, I actually forgot rej was in this game, out of all the active members it's weird to choose ekko

So your ability hasn't grown at all given we've only lynched fellow town. lol

basically lol

 

[Firestormer]

We can, but consider this - Worm Juice was the most likely lynch today, so buffing your vote isn't really of any consequence. Moreover, why specifically buff your vote, as opposed to say Fang, or Prof, or Soul, and so on. He could be Town, yes. But I don't really see a way to ignore the guilty check.

This is incorrect btw, WJ was not the most likely lynch because she's being executed (which scum would 100% know just by clicking the list of total posts), which is unaffected by vote power. The vote power buff is purely for this normal lynch, where WJ is basically the only name not on the table

 

[Ratchet]

I don't agree. All the same people aren't going to forget about his schizophrenic performance in that night vote phase. *shrug*

Given the likelihood of WJ, Scum we assume, being shot, Rej protecting Ekko to gamble on being Watched or Tracked to it and relying on a busdrive to keep WJ alive seems like a pretty strange idea. Occam's Razer would suggest Rej is town here. It does not make him confirmed Town. But given Ekko has a mech vouch on his side (and I will vouch for Prof being Town) it's enough to put Rej to the side for now. We need to focus on a few players at a time and get some wolf flips before we go into tinfoil.

 

[Ratchet]

This is incorrect btw, WJ was not the most likely lynch because she's being executed (which scum would 100% know just by clicking the list of total posts), which is unaffected by vote power. The vote power buff is purely for this normal lynch, where WJ is basically the only name not on the table

We can go back and forth on that I think, I do feel like your ability given how the lynch mechanics work is pretty weak for the town. That said, it would be absurdly strong for scum, so... point in your favour maybe?

 

[Ratchet]

Anyway, goodnight.

Firestormer, and indeed anyone else, if you have anything you've like me to look at, give my thoughts on, or just spitball with, tag me and I will strive to get to it when I can tomorrow.

 

[charles101]

I mean I am sus of Iwan which is why I used actions against him, but why is no one voting for WJ exactly?

Because he's going to be modkilled.

Btw, i'm not surprised people are being cautious, but looks like some people are dismissing guilty result right away. Tbh, why would someone busdrive Firestormer? Like, are there really no better targets? Then I remembered it's 30 people game and 10 towns have already died. For all we know it might be almost 50/50.

I'm glad my flip will be informative, even if FS gets away with this.

 

[Juan]

Also, my actions got redirect last night from Iwan to firestormer, if it's any consolation.

bullshit

you didn't get redirected by anyone

someone day kill bada for the love of god

 

[Badalight]

Because he's going to be modkilled.

Btw, i'm not surprised people are being cautious, but looks like some people are dismissing guilty result right away. Tbh, why would someone busdrive Firestormer? Like, are there really no better targets? Then I remembered it's 30 people game and 10 towns have already died. For all we know it might be almost 50/50.

I'm glad my flip will be informative, even if FS gets away with this.

TBF all I know is that my action hit firestormer instead of Iwan as confirmed by mod pm. I don't know if that means all abilities went to firestormer. That is why I am trying to clarify what happened to my other night action. It very much could be the case where it's this specific type of action gets redirected of Iwan. For example, Iwan has defense against magic based abilities or something of that ilk (just an example, not saying that's what I did).

bullshit

you didn't get redirected by anyone

someone day kill bada for the love of god

Yes, please go ahead and waste more kills against me. Def townie play. At this point, scum are definitely trying to get town to waste all of their shit on me.

 

[Juan]

Yes, please go ahead and waste more kills against me. Def townie play. At this point, scum are definitely trying to get town to waste all of their shit on me.

the only scum using shit here is you

no one else

noted how you didn't deny you didn't actually get redirected

 

[Badalight]

[Vote execute Worm Juice]
[Vote Lynch Iwan]

 

[Badalight]

the only scum using shit here is you

no one else

noted how you didn't deny you didn't actually get redirected

Uhm, did you read my post? I said my action hit firestormer instead of Iwan, as confirmed by mod pm. Dunno how many times I have to say it.

 

[Badalight]

In fact, the exact language Nitty used in the pm was "redirected" so.

 

[Juan]

Uhm, did you read my post? I said my action hit firestormer instead of Iwan, as confirmed by mod pm. Dunno how many times I have to say it.

u are lying

u did not get redirected

i know this for a fact

 

[Badalight]

u are lying

u did not get redirected

i know this for a fact

You are the one lying then.

 

[Firestormer]

Because he's going to be modkilled.

Btw, i'm not surprised people are being cautious, but looks like some people are dismissing guilty result right away. Tbh, why would someone busdrive Firestormer? Like, are there really no better targets? Then I remembered it's 30 people game and 10 towns have already died. For all we know it might be almost 50/50.

I'm glad my flip will be informative, even if FS gets away with this.

Seems like it worked so idk, must have been a pretty good target or a pretty bad cop.

 

[Juan]

You are the one lying then.

i have absolutely no reason to

you've played the most scummy game i've seen in years

we'll see who's bullshitting when you flip scum

 

[Badalight]

i have absolutely no reason to

you've played the most scummy game i've seen in years

we'll see who's bullshitting when you flip scum

K. Everyone please keep this interaction in mind when I flip town.

 

[Fang]

K. Everyone please keep this interaction in mind when I flip town.

Why did investigations on you in prior phases fail then?

 

[Badalight]

Also Juan, I have no idea how you know this for a fact when apparently "nothing worked" on me last night so.... weird claim for you to make no?

 

[Juan]

Also Juan, I have no idea how you know this for a fact when apparently "nothing worked" on me last night so.... weird claim for you to make no?

>nothing worked on you

>oh but a redirect did! totally! i swear guys!!

 

[Santí]

Fuck killshots.

Lynch this roach

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

@Fang did i somehow miss or you didn't provide results on Badalight invest? Waiting for that eagerly buddy

Btw i protected Boraxia and yet he got killed somehow

SinRaven is guilty btw, so yeah we got another confirmed scum here.

 

[Fang]

@Fang did i somehow miss or you didn't provide results on Badalight invest? Waiting for that eagerly buddy

Btw i protected Boraxia and yet he got killed somehow

SinRaven is guilty btw, so yeah we got another confirmed scum here.

My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.

 

[hammer]

My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.

I have a similar ability where I roleblock people who target me

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.

Maybe next time don't tell who you use your abilities on

Many said you got bus drived so protection on ya would've gone to WJ even if someone tried to last night while WJ kill went to you instead.

 

[Fang]

Maybe next time don't tell who you use your abilities on

Many said you got bus drived so protection on ya would've gone to WJ even if someone tried to last night while WJ kill went to you instead.

I didn't say who I was using my investigation on in the last phase.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

@Badalight flavour name don't mean much in these games but yeah would like that from you

@SinRaven what immunities you got my friend. Claim every immunity you have.

 

[Juan]

Fuck killshots.

Lynch this roach

what about the firestorm guilty result

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

@Badalight flavour name don't mean much in these games but yeah would like that from you

@SinRaven what immunities you got my friend. Claim every immunity you have.

@SinRaven flavour name as well, xD

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

I didn't say who I was using my investigation on in the last phase.

My current investigation on Badalight was prevented by a role-block as in I won't get in the results until the next night phase and I would need someone to protect me. Everything else on Badalight has failed though.

Why did investigations on you in prior phases fail then?

I'm lil confused here when is your invest processed btw same night ya submit targets or the next night?

 

[Firestormer]

what about the firestorm guilty result

Why not test it on Iwandesu? If he flips scum then it'll likely prove Badalight's claim of redirects from Iwandesu to me and hopefully clear me somewhat, and if he flips town then all you lose is Iwandesu.

 

[Worm Juice]

this cruel world

 

[Fang]

I'm lil confused here when is your invest processed btw same night ya submit targets or the next night?

Yes

 

[Badalight]

>nothing worked on you

>oh but a redirect did! totally! i swear guys!!

Because I am assuming I wasnt targeted with a redirect, its probably Iwans defensive ability or passive.

 

[Santí]

what about the firestorm guilty result

I don't trust it. I've never seen a scum role that hands out temporary vote power to players of their choice (because the lynch is town's tool to use, not theirs).

Just on the type of power he has alone, he's more likely to be pro-town than I am.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Btw i also got poisoned last night

 

[Santí]

Like, this is a very blatant pro-town ability. I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize some 4D chess maneuver where scum benefit by giving out vote power to people not in their scum team.

If Nitty designed such a role, he'd be a total hack of a host.

 

[Juan]

If Nitty designed such a role, he'd be a total hack of a host.

woah buddy save it for the roast

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Like, this is a very blatant pro-town ability. I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize some 4D chess maneuver where scum benefit by giving out vote power to people not in their scum team.

If Nitty designed such a role, he'd be a total hack of a host.

Did we confirm the vote thing?

 

[Shizune]

K. Everyone please keep this interaction in mind when I flip town.

Oh believe me, it’s going straight into the spank bank!

 

[Shizune]

Like, this is a very blatant pro-town ability. I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize some 4D chess maneuver where scum benefit by giving out vote power to people not in their scum team.

If Nitty designed such a role, he'd be a total hack of a host.

Well I’m not caught up but boooy I sure hope I did not make whatever role Santi is talking about here

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

I'm not trusting Bada words about fire n ivan getting bus drived. Fire just jumping on it

Ivan is inactive execution target why'd scum bus drive him with fire. Akso how many bus drive abilities scums would ve

 

[Santí]

Did we confirm the vote thing?

Yes. I vouched that I received a notification beginning of dayphase that my vote power had been increased, and Firestormer has provided the exact numerical increase and how long it lasts.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

My internet is struggling

 

[hammer]

are we just going to ignore rej and ekko.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

are we just going to ignore rej and ekko.

Ekko is inncoent Prof checked him,

What ya got on Rej?

 

[hammer]

Ekko is inncoent Prof checked him,

What ya got on Rej?

I don't usually trust a result on favs even from confirmed townies.

rej has been costing by the entire game with less interactions than me and only had one direct one with ekko. it seems weird for him to put a protective action on ekko last night.

 

[hammer]

did rej ability claim?

 

[Badalight]

I'm not trusting Bada words about fire n ivan getting bus drived. Fire just jumping on it

Ivan is inactive execution target why'd scum bus drive him with fire. Akso how many bus drive abilities scums would ve

Which is why I said its prob a defensive passive

 

[Badalight]

Nitty stop rating my posts lewd u freak

 

[Badalight]

if u have time 2 r8 my posts u have time 2 answer my pm ;(

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

If you choose to use Flash offensively, then you must choose another player to Flash toward, and for that night your abilities are guaranteed to work on

I think this was used to kill Boraxia.

 

[Badalight]

Okay Nitty clarified what happened to my first action. Miscommunication... so there was no first action, just the second one which did get redirected to firestormer. So unfortunately I cannot confirm what kind of redirect was going on, only that it worked on my second ability.

And no I am not lying. I would not lie about the mod.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Okay Nitty clarified what happened to my first action. Miscommunication... so there was no first action, just the second one which did get redirected to firestormer. So unfortunately I cannot confirm what kind of redirect was going on, only that it worked on my second ability.

And no I am not lying. I would not lie about the mod.

I asked ya something before, tagged you.

 

[Badalight]

I asked ya something before, tagged you.

Oh, right. What use does that information give? I feel like this is some death note type shenanigans.

 

[SoulKiller]

Not gonna lie, I was a little sus of Baroxio for reasons. But figured it's most likely than not he is townie based on his behavior around DrProfessor slot. Either way, we can finally deal with people who been ducking the lynching ropes for a while now like Badalight who been extremely scummy. But I am afraid he has to wait, for I believe Sin is actually scum here.


Vote Lynch: SinRaven

Vote Execute : Worm Juice

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

[Vote Lynch SinRaven]

[Vote Execute Worm Juice]

 

[Badalight]

Why sinraven exactly? Outside of the night phase stuff...

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Oh, right. What use does that information give? I feel like this is some death note type shenanigans.

You are sussed so i don't think ya need to worry about being shot by scums even if ya are scum, your claim and abilities might clear ya on other hand.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Are town*

 

[SoulKiller]

I don't give a shit if it's out of character Ratchet, I'm town. But go ahead and lynch me, you seem really committed to leading town into a pit so what's one more showcase of that?

[Vote lynch Firestormer]

Not familiar this much with firestormer, but is he a dude who fake stuff like this usually? feels bit of over reaction after seeing the situation he is in. Immediately from his second post he votes himself and gives up.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Why sinraven exactly? Outside of the night phase stuff...

I got guilty results on him,

 

[Badalight]

I got guilty results on him,

oh must've missed that

[vote lynch sinraven]

 

[Shizune]

Okay Nitty clarified what happened to my first action. Miscommunication... so there was no first action, just the second one which did get redirected to firestormer. So unfortunately I cannot confirm what kind of redirect was going on, only that it worked on my second ability.

And no I am not lying. I would not lie about the mod.

I can confirm I made a small mistake on Bada's actions last night

However this mistake was not greatly disruptive to the events of the night, or I would be publicly taking steps to rectify what happened

 

[SoulKiller]

u are lying

u did not get redirected

i know this for a fact

You are the one lying then.

Which one is telling the truth here I wonder, leaning more to Juan here than badalight tbh.

@charles101 how confident are you on your guilty scan on firestormer?​

 

[Badalight]

Which one is telling the truth here I wonder, leaning more to Juan here than badalight tbh.

@charles101 how confident are you on your guilty scan on firestormer?​

well nitty confirmed at least part of it so

obviously i can't be lying about everything

 

[SoulKiller]

I don't trust it. I've never seen a scum role that hands out temporary vote power to players of their choice (because the lynch is town's tool to use, not theirs).

Just on the type of power he has alone, he's more likely to be pro-town than I am.

This logic is false and I would tame such expectations you expect in terms of role abilities belonging to townies or scum. This is gigantic role madness game afterall. Plus, you said that lynch is town tool, but I seen alot of hosts giving scum lynch related abilities from immunities and redirect. Does those abilities make player townie? since 'lynch is town's tool'. I wouldn't be surprised if scum has voting boost powers to have some control/competition on the lynch control.

 

[SoulKiller]

well nitty confirmed at least part of it so

obviously i can't be lying about everything

You expect me to take your word for it. You keep repeating that nitty confirmed so. But unless nitty hops into the thread and confirms it personally, then whatever you state has no merit. It boils down to do I believe you or not?

 

[Badalight]

You expect me to take your word for it. You keep repeating that nitty confirmed so. But unless nitty hops into the thread and confirms it personally, then whatever you state has no merit. It boils down to do I believe you or not?

uhm mate, check a few posts up. Nitty did hop into the thread.

 

[SoulKiller]

Okay I am caught up, the way things are I think this is the best course of action.

We lynch Sin first, then we resolve firestormer/Iwan/Badalight/Juan situations. If charlie result on firestormer is 100% then this makes life easy and firestormer get lynched next. Then we get rid of badalight. But it feels to risky to leave the dude alive this long, I am surprised everything on him did not work apparently. He must be some big shot scum role. Also, juan calling him out on his lie is little bit alarming. Does no one in town truly is capable of killing a single player? I find that hard to believe.

 

[SoulKiller]

uhm mate, check a few posts up. Nitty did hop into the thread.

I saw it, but she does not necessarily confirm anything in it, although the fact that she felt the need to publicly come to the thread and address your post does give it some SOME merit. Although, if that is the case and you truly got redirected. Then what do you make of juan? You think the dude is lying about you not getting redirected? and do you think juan is scum here?

 

[Badalight]

I saw it, but she does not necessarily confirm anything in it, although the fact that she felt the need to publicly come to the thread and address your post does give it some SOME merit. Although, if that is the case and you truly got redirected. Then what do you make of juan? You think the dude is lying about you not getting redirected? and do you think juan is scum here?

I have literally no idea what Juan is on about. I wasn't reading Juan as scum but his post makes no sense because I said exactly what happened to me.

Also the redirect is potentially serendipitous if Firestormer does turn out to be scum.

 

[Badalight]

Like maybe scum are just at the point where they have such a huge advantage that they're starting to be brazen? But that would be dumb because they still have the other group to contend with at some point. I don't know Juan would make that claim so confidently because when I flip town it's going to look really bad for him.

 

[SoulKiller]

I have literally no idea what Juan is on about. I wasn't reading Juan as scum but his post makes no sense because I said exactly what happened to me.

Also the redirect is potentially serendipitous if Firestormer does turn out to be scum.

Which one is more likely to be scum in your eyes? Firestormer or Iwan then?

 

[Badalight]

Which one is more likely to be scum in your eyes? Firestormer or Iwan then?

Well Iwan was my scum read which is why I targeted him and he's doing jack all if he is town. I do agree with Santi that Firestormer's abilities seem more town than scum, but also I've seen plenty scum with vote manipulation stuff. Hell favorite 2 I believe had a scum that could stack their own votes.

I do find it odd that Iwan survived Xadlin's one shot and my ability as well. But without getting into specifics of Nitty's mistake, I'm not sure if it was Iwan who caused the redirect. I also don't believe a redirect would have worked on me either. That means the only possibility is someone else targeted Iwan/firestormer and that's what caused the redirect.

If that's the case, it would probably clear firestormer and mean I was right about Iwan. But I don't know the mechanics of how other people's alignment checks work.

 

[SoulKiller]

Commenting on the firestormer situation, I really didn't like his reaction when he was put on the spot light and decided to vote himself. Felt very over reacting. Also, I didn't like how he jumped into badalight wagon, felt like he was trying to escape and push another wagon possibly pushing his scum partner? he then calmed down and started being cooperative, What pinged me too is charlie seem to be confident that fire is scum. Then badalight came with the entire iwan/firestormer redirect, which put iwan on the spot immediately, but then juan popped up and claimed that badalight is lying and that he was not redirected. I think before moving forward with this, I believe @charles101 needs to come out and confirm how confident he is on firestormer.