Game Members Mafia 4 (indies win!)

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Flower

I don't care if my suspicions fit with one another, I hunt scum one at a time, do not try to figure the whole game picture at once.

That said I'm not feeling Nessos rn, his OMGUS feels honest, but I was calling him out because we need to call out people who refuse to scumhunt, that's part of the game.

Karma can go to the gallows tho.

 

[Iwandesu]

Obviously confused by Laix constantly referring to his tight pussy.

Im well aware he is a he
But just like with nitty my tireless mind is unable to cope out and it instantly writes down shes
I guess we truly are sexists deep inside

 

[Kingslayer]

Theory #1 if an innocent player commits murder they become guilty.
Check the front thread rule terms.

Theory# 2, mafia was roleblocked as that kill on sigismund seems rather pointless. Replacement, also note I said to kill replacements. Sooooo yeah.

Probably a vig kill I don't know.

I'll be back in some hours.

Murder - Death at the hands of another player, as opposed to death by lynching.

Nothing as such mentioned here. Do you have leads on to it.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Well, I was thinking about how it screwed up our team in favorites when don patch split the playerbase in half. It also helps limits our PoE on the kill on Laix. It's why I think it's more town than scum. But I suppose it can harm town too

I mean, you mentioned names got switched and then somehow draw a line that it's more town than scum

She only said she did the diving stuff but didnt say names got switched too (was the switched names already mentioned last DP/this DP cause noticed only after you brought it up)

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

wanna lynch like right now

scumdesu
karma
melodie

could lynch

literally half of everyone who's alive, so many people putting low effort. Like are u sure @Legend is in the game? For srsly?

 

[Karma]

It looks like a scumslip, quacks like a scumslip and walks like a scumslip.

"I wouldn't be that bad as as scum". Yeah right. Nobody is that bad as scum until it happens.

So u think my gifts r bullshit?

 

[Kingslayer]

Wow how did you even figure that out

Tinfoiling just like you did.

Reminds me of Mastermind abilities in throne of lies game i hosted.

 

[Iwandesu]

Im gonna go back to ignore the Laix list tbh
Lets see..

 

[Iwandesu]

Broadcast message:

Sorry.
You are a she right ?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Tinfoiling just like you did.

Reminds me of Mastermind abilities in throne of lies game i hosted.

Are you sure it wasn't the cult leader who just flipped on yesterday's day 1 lynch?

Or the night 1 host post announcing there was a conversion?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

So u think my gifts r bullshit?

Sim

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

God dammit these announcements are getting crazy. Btw, please just tag me when you need something because I don't always see it when you quote Nitty's posts.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I mean, you mentioned names got switched and then somehow draw a line that it's more town than scum

She only said she did the diving stuff but didnt say names got switched too (was the switched names already mentioned last DP/this DP cause noticed only after you brought it up)

it was mentioned last dp. I am wondering if she had anything to do with that or not.

 

[Karma]

Sim

Not much I can until d4 then.

 

[Owner Of A Lonely Heart]

"strikes me as odd"

"Weird"

Interesting

@Owner Of A Lonely Heart does that fit in your tell too?

And that is the analysis, hopefully. Lean scum read for using of subjective wording when relating to scumspects.

“weird” is not as tested as “interesting”.

“Weird” is also closer to saying something is off or different about them, which is more like regular scum hunting.

Where as the “interesting” tell is based more in filler posts or not knowing what to say. So a person would say “interesting” to fill that gap.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Anyone else feeling like Aragorn gets a catch up summary from his scum chat? Because half the questions he's asking already are answered. Looks like either scum or really, really lazy Town.

 

[Owner Of A Lonely Heart]

On the other hand, DDL, they could be lying, but their words flowed. It felt natural in that instance.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

On the other hand, DDL, they could be lying, but their words flowed. It felt natural in that instance.

i c

Where are you at right now? Anyone who doesn't feel natural for you?

 

[nfcnorth]

Who tf is Darth nordic

It was a nickname alwaysmind came up with when he thought I was scum during the star wars game.

Also while I have you here I saw that you called some of my posts weird how so?

@Owner Of A Lonely Heart
Catching up from when I went to bed will give some thoughts soon.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

I would love, love, love to see a vote count and I would love to see who hasn’t voted yet despite having posted a whole lot.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

A wild nfcnorth appears!

 

[Iwandesu]

@Flower

I don't care if my suspicions fit with one another, I hunt scum one at a time, do not try to figure the whole game picture at once.

That said I'm not feeling Nessos rn, his OMGUS feels honest, but I was calling him out because we need to call out people who refuse to scumhunt, that's part of the game.

Karma can go to the gallows tho.

I mean if we are to assume karma is a good player then making up this "i received a result" is not impossible (even more with potential teammates) at the same time i found him sincere .
Nessos...yeah i feel like the lynch on him might be a fluke, he had some reads and whatnot.
Also i did suspect hayumi yesterday (and have no reasons to not suspect so right now) but why i see so many hayumi votes ?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Sorry, i had some real life issues today and i will not be able to post much this dayphase. If there someone who wants to sub i would be okay with this, otherwise i should have more time from Sunday.

 

[Lord Melkor]

No lol
I voted karma without seeing his post about he knowing laix was dead through a failed invest

Okay, so you do not sus him now?

 

[Iwandesu]

Murder - Death at the hands of another player, as opposed to death by lynching.

Nothing as such mentioned here. Do you have leads on to it.

I also didnt really like this random tinfoil from remchu but it is so specific i would suppose that he is actually hinting at some in game info yeah

 

[Underworld Broker]

It was a nickname alwaysmind came up with when he thought I was scum during the star wars game.

Also while I have you here I saw that you called some of my posts weird how so?

@Owner Of A Lonely Heart
Catching up from when I went to bed will give some thoughts soon.

A lot of them are random fluff and it doesnt feel like you're actually trying to solve the game.

 

[Iwandesu]

Okay, so you do not sus him now?

Ddl is making a decent point about how he could have faked it.
But yeah, as of now im ok with him. Lets see how it plays.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

I don't think Hayumi is the way to go. We should focus on Badalight and find out why the lynch was derailed so quickly to John Wayne. I feel like something isn't right there. The votes on Hayumi are gathered so quickly, too. Doesn't seem like he's scum unless he's being bussed.

 

[SinRaven]

Also i did suspect hayumi yesterday (and have no reasons to not suspect so right now) but why i see so many hayumi votes ?

???

What is this supposed to mean? You suspect Hayumi, but dont understand why people would vote her?

 

[Iwandesu]

The weekend is here

Doing my prerequisit Natalija analysis first.





So...are you less active because you're working or because you're on vacation? Seems contradictory to me.

Lmaoo scum slip detected

 

[Kingslayer]

Theory @Natalija is probably just @Nataly 's alt. Evidence:

1- They have the same name
2- They are never together in the same game. Natalie showed up for GG3 and Natalija did not.
3- Nataly is addicted to contest points, she'll join every contest for them. Maybe she created this alt to double the number of posts she can get in a year!
4- What is the probability of there being two women in an anime forum who also happen to have the same name?

Sge is from [Blocked Domain] forum dont think she is alt.

Btw Nataly and natalijia both signed up my game in time machine game. If she was alt wont she find out hayumi was scum because nataly was randed as her partner.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Oh sweet i am roleblocked now . The dice god shall decide the fate .

why would you be ok with being roleblocked?

 

[Underworld Broker]

@Flower my guess why it got derailed is that mafia would rather have a confirmed scum (JW) hanged than someone who's prolly town, yah know for credit and stuff

 

[Badalight]

@Flower I s2g I'm about to use this ability to give you an embarrassing post restriction

 

[Underworld Broker]

I guess they also earned a convert cause the cultist died early

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

anyways, I still don't like iwan

[Vote Lynch Scumdesu]

 

[Owner Of A Lonely Heart]

i c

Where are you at right now? Anyone who doesn't feel natural for you?

currently I’m in a Subway on my lunch break. In the thread, I just got back to it.

WPK feels different, but that can be explained by greater than normal post requirement. And the fact that he is living lols.

Go D. Sopp didn’t feel right initially, but through discussion and finding out they are new explains why they probably felt the way that they are.

I think I have to retract what I said earlier about Hayumi feeling like favorites. I can’t recall their posts at all. Or I felt like she was more memorable that game, but that could just be from the amount we interacted. So I’ll probably be looking there in the future.

Sinraven feels alright, but I cannot recall having a feeling for him in past games, so that’s a solid null. It could be that I’m getting more use to playing here so maybe I feel more comfortable around different players. But yeah, I still need to read more.

UB - don’t recall what they have said it didn’t leave an impact on me

Santi - I think I remember Laix defending them, and I slightly remember them posting, so that’s at least more than some games.

Break over

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

A restriction on top of a restriction? Like I'm not f***ed enough already. Still, if it's as you say, Broki, we should look at those that changed the votes from Bada to JW. Anyone wanna pressure those a bit because I can't really do that.

 

[Magic]

I’m on vacation can’t be as active

But don’t waste time on me, I’m town. I made the groups yesterday

Was going to say she is scummy for the activity excuses today, but I don't see a mafia giving this bit of info in this post here away so freely. That group divide ability if anything helps us narrow down who performed kills or what actions yesterday. Yeah Nat is probably town.

 

[Badalight]

@Flower Damn right a restriction on top of a restriction

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

@Flower Damn right a restriction on top of a restriction

just remove her restriction

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

I feel like there has been an equal amount of resistance to Badalight as there has been to Hayumi.

Only Badalight basically role revealed. So that helps.

Kind of worrying to me that Flower is suggesting that some kind of insane wagon is on Hayumi right now which she would imply detracts from the likeliness of her being scum when I don’t think there’s more than 4 votes right now on her.

@Kvothe Kingkiller Vote count onegai? licdoggo

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I feel like there has been an equal amount of resistance to Badalight as there has been to Hayumi.

Only Badalight basically role revealed. So that helps.

Kind of worrying to me that Flower is suggesting that some kind of insane wagon is on Hayumi right now which she would imply detracts from the likeliness of her being scum when I don’t think there’s more than 4 votes right now on her.

@Kvothe Kingkiller Vote count onegai? licdoggo

ugh fine I'll get off my bed

 

[Badalight]

just remove her restriction

read my previous posts

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

read my previous posts

does nitty tell you if the action went through or not?

 

[Nessos]

Laix disappeared without any of us really knowing what happened to her.

I would say we may should focus on this list to find a murder

• Aragorn
• Babby
• Badalight
• Cooler
• Worm Juice
• Flower
• Go D. Usopp
• Hayumi
• Hero
• is a
• Kvothe Kingkiller

And one more thing. Do you think scum was equally distributed among the 3 lists?
We may should fear the list without kills the most. There is a high chance scum may try to hide their powerroles. It is kind of obvious everyone would jump on the lists were kills happened.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sge is from [Blocked Domain] forum dont think she is alt.

Btw Nataly and natalijia both signed up my game in time machine game. If she was alt wont she find out hayumi was scum because nataly was randed as her partner.

DId you seriously read that post and think it was serious

seriously

 

[Magic]

Murder - Death at the hands of another player, as opposed to death by lynching.

Nothing as such mentioned here. Do you have leads on to it.

No. No blood on my hands this game.

I'm white as snow.

female and petite too.

 

[Badalight]

does nitty tell you if the action went through or not?

Nope!

 

[Cooler]

Lmaoo scum slip detected

Anyone else find this reaction from Iwan forced?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Flower my guess why it got derailed is that mafia would rather have a confirmed scum (JW) hanged than someone who's prolly town, yah know for credit and stuff

Why are you assuming Bada is town

 

[Cooler]

Was going to say she is scummy for the activity excuses today, but I don't see a mafia giving this bit of info in this post here away so freely. That group divide ability if anything helps us narrow down who performed kills or what actions yesterday. Yeah Nat is probably town.

Could be an ability from the janitored Laix?

 

[Ratchet]

Broadcast message:

Well, I'll defer to you for meta reads on Nessos. Not convinced about your Nata reasoning but no reason to press it.

 

[nfcnorth]

A lot of them are random fluff and it doesnt feel like you're actually trying to solve the game.

I am don't worry about that. I am just honing my thoughts and reads with multiple read throughs at the moment. Still not sure if I like Remchu's entrance but have liked him since. I think Go D. Ussop was super super weird and then kind of vanished.

Also on a more general note kind of surprised no one has asked for people to give thoughts on people in there division. Personally I am currently most curious about you and Ratchet. I do like how you are more active than Aries game but I do give you credit so seeing how I stand with your thoughts right now. Ratchet is mostly he has been quieter than I would expect to this point tbh.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Do it, Bada, and I will personally send you to the gallows today like "Badabing Badaboom".

Jk. Yeah, I'm not feeling a Hayumi lynch nor a Nessos or Karma lynch today. I feel like we have better options today.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Why are you assuming Bada is town

Atm I think he wouldnt go out there and give ppl buffs, like if hes mafia he could just make them all bulletproof no?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Could be an ability from the janitored Laix?

Natalija did comment on the ability though last day phase.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Atm I think he wouldnt go out there and give ppl buffs, like if hes mafia he could just make them all bulletproof no?

Maybe, but it felt like you know Bada is town?

As a fellow townie, I believe you would consider the scenario where Bada is someone's scummate, wouldn't you?

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

why are so many of you overtly role hinting this phase unprompted and unprovoked

Stop it I think

I know some of your roles and I don’t think I’m that much better of a player that another elite-tier player who is actually on the scum team isn’t gonna have deduced your role as well

 

[Cooler]

Natalija did comment on the ability though last day phase.

Link?

 

[Cooler]

Also.

[Vote lynch Scumdesu]

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

why are so many of you overtly role hinting this phase unprompted and unprovoked

Stop it I think

I know some of your roles and I don’t think I’m that much better of a player that another elite-tier player who is actually on the scum team isn’t gonna have deduced your role as well

I just wanted to milk Badalight's boost tbh. If my plan worked it would be very powerful.

 

[Ratchet]

I just wanted to milk Badalight's boost tbh. If my plan worked it would be very powerful.

Is this accounting for the possibility of scum influence?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Vote Count
Aragorn > Hayumi
Badalight > Hayumi
Cooler > Scumdesu
Dragon D. Luffy > scumdesu
Flower > Selfvote
Go D. Usopp > Selfvote
Hayumi > Selfvote
Hero > Selfvote
is a > Natalija > scumdesu > Natalija > Hayumi
Scumdesu > Karma > Melodie
John Wayne > Selfvote
Juan > Selfvote
Karma > Nessos
Kira Yagami > Selfvote
Kvothe Kingkiller > Scumdesu
Legend > Selfvote
Lord Genome > Selfvote
Lord Melkor > Hayumi
Melodie > Selfvote
Natalija > Selfvote
Nessos > Selfvote
Jojo/Nevan > Selfvote
nfcnorth > Selfvote
Owner Of A Lonely Heart > scumdesu
Ratchet > Selfvote
RemChu > Selfvote
Santí > Selfvote
SinRaven > Natalija > Hayumi
Underworld Broker > Selfvote
WolfPrinceKiba > DDL > Hayumi
Worm Juice > Scumdesu

Selfvotes = 2

Hayumi - 9
Scumdesu - 5
Flower - 2
Go D. Usopp - 2
Hayumi - 2
Hero - 2
Melodie - 2
John Wayne - 2
Juan - 2
Nessos - 2
Kira Yagami - 2
Legend - 2
Lord Genome - 2
Natalija - 2
Jojo/Nevan - 2
nfcnorth - 2
Ratchet - 2
RemChu - 2
Santí - 2
Underworld Broker - 2

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Is this accounting for the possibility of scum influence?

Considering I didn't reveal much the amount of influence they can make is limited, and I think it's worth the risk.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Link?

here

This kind of action is town, so probably the group has no purpose.

 

[Underworld Broker]

I am don't worry about that. I am just honing my thoughts and reads with multiple read throughs at the moment. Still not sure if I like Remchu's entrance but have liked him since. I think Go D. Ussop was super super weird and then kind of vanished.

Also on a more general note kind of surprised no one has asked for people to give thoughts on people in there division. Personally I am currently most curious about you and Ratchet. I do like how you

Maybe, but it felt like you know Bada is town?

As a fellow townie, I believe you would consider the scenario where Bada is someone's scummate, wouldn't you?

I'd consider him as scum but he has UB as role and I'm prolly biased here (+ I'm having a theory on that one so ima leave it at that)

 

[Cooler]

here

OK yeah feels like a hint.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Let's lynch an inactifag from the second group today to be frank. All actives seem so Townie.

 

[Cooler]

Broadcast message:

@Flower top pick?

 

[Juan]

@Kira Yagami @Juan @Legend Any reads?

i'm catching up, phase started at midnight for me

give me a few minutes

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Vote Count
Aragorn > Hayumi
Badalight > Hayumi
Cooler > Scumdesu
Dragon D. Luffy > scumdesu
Flower > Selfvote
Go D. Usopp > Selfvote
Hayumi > Selfvote
Hero > Selfvote
is a > Natalija > scumdesu > Natalija > Hayumi
Scumdesu > Karma > Melodie
John Wayne > Selfvote
Juan > Selfvote
Karma > Nessos
Kira Yagami > Selfvote
Kvothe Kingkiller > Scumdesu
Legend > Selfvote
Lord Genome > Selfvote
Lord Melkor > Hayumi
Melodie > Selfvote
Natalija > Selfvote
Nessos > Selfvote
Jojo/Nevan > Selfvote
nfcnorth > Selfvote
Owner Of A Lonely Heart > scumdesu
Ratchet > Selfvote
RemChu > Selfvote
Santí > Selfvote
SinRaven > Natalija > Hayumi
Underworld Broker > Selfvote
WolfPrinceKiba > DDL > Hayumi
Worm Juice > Scumdesu

Selfvotes = 2

Hayumi - 9
Scumdesu - 5
Flower - 2
Go D. Usopp - 2
Hayumi - 2
Hero - 2
Melodie - 2
John Wayne - 2
Juan - 2
Nessos - 2
Kira Yagami - 2
Legend - 2
Lord Genome - 2
Natalija - 2
Jojo/Nevan - 2
nfcnorth - 2
Ratchet - 2
RemChu - 2
Santí - 2
Underworld Broker - 2

ok more than I thought for sure
also JW is dead
also some of these people not having voted yet is super suspect

 

[Badalight]

Once again, two top wagons.

 

[Underworld Broker]

I should get on my computer instead of phone posting lol

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

@Cooler Legend or Kira.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

ok more than I thought for sure
also JW is dead
also some of these people not having voted yet is super suspect

oh whoops >_>

also I should note Hayumi does have 9 but it's 7 people voting for him + 2 on the selfvote.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Flower is there something about Hayumi you wanna tell us

you have been fighting tooth and nail to derail that wagon

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Also
@Melodie

so who you gonna vote for then
where’s all the zeal and vigor from second half of day 1?

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

I definitely am not fighting to derail that wagon. But I can't be the only one noticing Hayumi's lack of defense, right? This lynch feels too easy and too comfortable. Again, if he's scum, he's being bussed. So we should defo look at his wagon now.

 

[Kira Yagami]

Think both Hayumi and iwan are mafia tbh, the tone of those posts someone pointed out earlier scream scummy

Iwan read like scum anticipating a town mislynch with his " i actually believe you" post

Hayumi also seems far too guarded, dont like her defensive reaction to being sussed, whole lot of fluff from her too

[Vote Lynch Hayumi]