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JoJo said:
What’s the consensus on cooler? I’ve read this entire DP and I don’t see much from him. A stark contrast from him in both mafia games I played with him where he was town. But when he was scum, he was definitely playing under the radar.

I know there was quite a bit of discussion about him day 1, but that seems to have fallen off and not carried over to day 2.
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I was pretty active D1, today was just a busy day at work couldn't really find time.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
@Flower your double standard argument fails to acknowledge what wad actually say, which is not that he was suspecting you for voting Kira, but for how long you took to do it.

Feels like a weak defense tbh.
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It took flower long to do it because she didnt have that sus on her mind before
Only after i entered the thread furthering the hayumi vote did Flower see some low hanging fruit to jump on and with a false lead to boot


I mean cmon now :lmao
 
RemChu said:
This pings me as two scummates talking.
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I feel like I’m reasonably more comfortable around him as we have not only played games here but also on the syndicate. But I don’t recall him asking about my tells so directly, so that feels new. I feel like he was maybe trying to use me indirectly if that makes sense. Like it felt buddy-buddy, but I’ve been in games where he’s been Town and games where he has been mafia, but I don’t remember feeling this way in relation to him. But the meta I have for him is more like active as town and less active or less inquisitive as scum, so I don’t necessarily have that description as being all that reliable because I haven’t really tested it. He’s someone I like playing with, but like actual playing not him hiding in the background.
 
Owner Of A Lonely Heart said:
I feel like I’m reasonably more comfortable around him as we have not only played games here but also on the syndicate. But I don’t recall him asking about my tells so directly, so that feels new. I feel like he was maybe trying to use me indirectly if that makes sense. Like it felt buddy-buddy, but I’ve been in games where he’s been Town and games where he has been mafia, but I don’t remember feeling this way in relation to him. But the meta I have for him is more like active as town and less active or less inquisitive as scum, so I don’t necessarily have that description as being all that reliable because I haven’t really tested it. He’s someone I like playing with, but like actual playing not him hiding in the background.
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Owner since you started playing TS I noticed a couple games where you were lynched or suspected for having unique tells, such as the image thing or the interesting thing. You were town in all those games iirc. So I have an image of you which is "town Owner likes to use unique tells". I don't necessarily agree or disagree with those tells, but it's something stuck in my mind.

In this game I haven't noticed you playing like it that much, though. You seem self-contained. So I'm somewhat suspicious of you, and then tried to see if I could get some view on the game from you.
 
Owner Of A Lonely Heart said:
I feel like I’m reasonably more comfortable around him as we have not only played games here but also on the syndicate. But I don’t recall him asking about my tells so directly, so that feels new. I feel like he was maybe trying to use me indirectly if that makes sense. Like it felt buddy-buddy, but I’ve been in games where he’s been Town and games where he has been mafia, but I don’t remember feeling this way in relation to him. But the meta I have for him is more like active as town and less active or less inquisitive as scum, so I don’t necessarily have that description as being all that reliable because I haven’t really tested it. He’s someone I like playing with, but like actual playing not him hiding in the background.
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Ok so that's the familiarity I was picking up on.....

Carry on.
 
Cooler said:
So you have a monopoly on activity excuses? Don't see why you being one of the first makes a difference. I assume many of us are grown ups with 9-5 responsibilities lol.
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I mean my whole point was that a few people started doing it (some of them genuinely so) and then others caught up probably because they saw people getting forgiven for it. Its like an easy way to escape atrention.

A top of my head people who made activity excuses:

-Me
-You
-Hero
-Natalija
-Nessos

Probably more

I dont think everyone is being completely genuine there. Do you?

Like I've actually never seen you make an excuse like this, for example. I do believe you have like a job but do I believe if that's the full truth behind your lackluster performance so far? Probably not.
 
nfcnorth said:
I am don't worry about that. I am just honing my thoughts and reads with multiple read throughs at the moment. Still not sure if I like Remchu's entrance but have liked him since. I think Go D. Ussop was super super weird and then kind of vanished.

Also on a more general note kind of surprised no one has asked for people to give thoughts on people in there division. Personally I am currently most curious about you and Ratchet. I do like how you are more active than Aries game but I do give you credit so seeing how I stand with your thoughts right now. Ratchet is mostly he has been quieter than I would expect to this point tbh.
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ah yeah, please enlighten us with your honed thoughts and reads

this post feels a bit like smth scum would write
 
Almsot forgot to do this

Natalija said:
I haven’t read anything, but I hope the groups helped some :dankfoil
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Natalija said:
It’s a damn COOL ability. And I wanted to use it to make a partieh last night :peperave

The thing is I just copied the player list. Then shifted a few people who might be dangerous to make more balanced groups, just based on a hunch.

Which group was Sigi in?
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Think this list ability makes natalija look far more townie than not, dont see it being a scum ability
 
@SinRaven

RemChu, his overreaction to my vote felt too scummy to be scum.The tone of his posts since has felt genuine.

Wad, feels like he's trying to game solve. Meta and tone feels very different to the last couple of games when he's been scum.

Flower, her posts give me town vibes but I also think her posting restriction is almost too good of a cover to be scum.

Hero, had a sort of detached feeling to his play last phase and I didn't like the way he voted - seemed opportunistic.

Iwan, lots of posts but don't feel like he's really game solving. Plus he really pinged me with his reaction to my post on Natalija.

Juan, feel like he's on his scum meta or he has a weak role I guess. Plus being in the group that Laix was in iirc I got a feeling about him.

Melodie, reaction posts yesterday felt forced. I'd expect more pushing and aggression from town Melodie.
 
Cooler said:
@SinRaven

RemChu, his overreaction to my vote felt too scummy to be scum.The tone of his posts since has felt genuine.

Wad, feels like he's trying to game solve. Meta and tone feels very different to the last couple of games when he's been scum.

Flower, her posts give me town vibes but I also think her posting restriction is almost too good of a cover to be scum.

Hero, had a sort of detached feeling to his play last phase and I didn't like the way he voted - seemed opportunistic.

Iwan, lots of posts but don't feel like he's really game solving. Plus he really pinged me with his reaction to my post on Natalija.

Juan, feel like he's on his scum meta or he has a weak role I guess. Plus being in the group that Laix was in iirc I got a feeling about him.

Melodie, reaction posts yesterday felt forced. I'd expect more pushing and aggression from town Melodie.
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I kinda like this post but I also kinda dont because of the way you carefully layed out like two sentences per person. To me it seems like youre forcing yourself to make two things up per person instead of genuinely explaining what you think of them.
 
SinRaven said:
I mean my whole point was that a few people started doing it (some of them genuinely so) and then others caught up probably because they saw people getting forgiven for it. Its like an easy way to escape atrention.

A top of my head people who made activity excuses:

-Me
-You
-Hero
-Natalija
-Nessos

Probably more

I dont think everyone is being completely genuine there. Do you?

Like I've actually never seen you make an excuse like this, for example. I do believe you have like a job but do I believe if that's the full truth behind your lackluster performance so far? Probably not.
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Pretty sure I have mentioned being burnt out from work before.

I don't agree that activity is a scum tell of mine anyway. Look at other big role madness games in the last year where I've flipped town. I've generally been on the lower end of the activity sprectrum. I was active D1 as well anyway.

I do agree that some of those posters are possibly bullshitting about why they're quiet.
 
Cooler said:
@SinRaven

RemChu, his overreaction to my vote felt too scummy to be scum.The tone of his posts since has felt genuine.

Wad, feels like he's trying to game solve. Meta and tone feels very different to the last couple of games when he's been scum.

Flower, her posts give me town vibes but I also think her posting restriction is almost too good of a cover to be scum.

Hero, had a sort of detached feeling to his play last phase and I didn't like the way he voted - seemed opportunistic.

Iwan, lots of posts but don't feel like he's really game solving. Plus he really pinged me with his reaction to my post on Natalija.

Juan, feel like he's on his scum meta or he has a weak role I guess. Plus being in the group that Laix was in iirc I got a feeling about him.

Melodie, reaction posts yesterday felt forced. I'd expect more pushing and aggression from town Melodie.
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I always defend myself and people say it's overreacting.

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Natalija said:
I... Was working on Wed, then went on vacation on Thurs :dank Mr policeman Cooler.

I’ll take a minute to read stuff

Spoiler:
Tried to upload a vacation photo, but apparently I don’t have a permission to do that
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Oh cool how was your vacation? :fedoge


JoJo said:
Also guys don’t forget that if you don’t analyze a natalija post you get role blocked or whatever
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where does it say that?


And why is everyone voting on hayumi, what did I miss?

:kannahuh
 
Kira Yagami said:
could definitely see that wish ability being from scum especially given the vote silence punishment, Natalija being targeted for it furthers my town read on her.
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you gotta explain that line of thought

cause

it's basically forcing ppl to be active = scummy?

wouldnt it backfire at scum granting exactly that wish cause they're forced to say something original or so
 
Underworld Broker said:
you gotta explain that line of thought

cause

it's basically forcing ppl to be active = scummy?

wouldnt it backfire at scum granting exactly that wish cause they're forced to say something original or so
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But scum can plan their responses together. I dont see this being that detrimental to them. And like a massive vote silence is more beneficial to town.

Could potentially be a indie ability tho. I could see that fit better than mafia actually.

I dont deny the possibility of it being town either, but then it seems more trollish in nature. Whoever is using it doesnt seem to use it in a townish way. Not this dayphase.
 
Underworld Broker said:
you gotta explain that line of thought

cause

it's basically forcing ppl to be active = scummy?

wouldnt it backfire at scum granting exactly that wish cause they're forced to say something original or so
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Is that really the goal? Seems so odd of an action, natalija is not even a major suspect either.
Also at least a couple people are bound to forget about this and be vote silenced.
 
Dragon D. Luffy said:
Theory @Natalija is probably just @Nataly 's alt. Evidence:

1- They have the same name
2- They are never together in the same game. Natalie showed up for GG3 and Natalija did not.
3- Nataly is addicted to contest points, she'll join every contest for them. Maybe she created this alt to double the number of posts she can get in a year!
4- What is the probability of there being two women in an anime forum who also happen to have the same name?
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No, I’m Natalija original. Disrespect :mihawk
JoJo said:
i revealed it many hours ago
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And.. No one wanted to lynch you?
 
SinRaven said:
But scum can plan their responses together. I dont see this being that detrimental to them. And like a massive vote silence is more beneficial to town.

Could potentially be a indie ability tho. I could see that fit better than mafia actually.

I dont deny the possibility of it being town either, but then it seems more trollish in nature. Whoever is using it doesnt seem to use it in a townish way. Not this dayphase.
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i mean yeah they can plan it but they may seem fake / too carefully planned, yada yada

think if a lot of ppl would post a good wish the poll would have better options

Kira Yagami said:
Is that really the goal? Seems so odd of an action, natalija is not even a major suspect either.
Also at least a couple people are bound to forget about this and be vote silenced.
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i mean well if ppl would be active that wouldnt be a problem, would it?
 
Pool Party Nitty said:
Broadcast message:
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Wrong. However, I can clarify reasoning. For starters, your broadcasting quirk doesn't particularly inspire me to believe that it's townish at all. More times than, something like this is a boon given to mafioso so they can coast more effectively or whatever. We can play the WIFOM game about the nature of it, but I rather not and I err on the side that you're scum. Not only that, but your messages are nearly all reactive and just throwing sus in directions that are pretty are OMGUS. If you're able to broad cast from the host, who seems pretty on top of sending you messages, then why are there no real proactive posts from you?

That's my reasoning. Take or leave it.
 
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