Badalight
JOJO
@Badalight
I need you to tell me who you have used your ability(ies) on since Day 1.
[Vote Lynch Cooler]
D1, vote power for myself. N1, protect on you. D2, RB on Iwan. N2 I was RB so nothing.
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@Badalight
I need you to tell me who you have used your ability(ies) on since Day 1.
[Vote Lynch Cooler]
how did u know that?
also i thought the host was gna update some roles to match the subs
so thought babby's role will get changed to jojo or sig
i have not been role blocked by anything, didn't receive any pm saying that
was there another dice event that we had to roll for?
nitty gotta use threadmarks more lol
LG’s role is Babby
[Vote lynch Lord Genome]
why did you think this role was unlikely to be scum?
What do you mean? I’ve threadmarked every action.
None i got roleblocked because of dice
If you have extra vote power, you need to be the only one on lynch 2. Everyone else goes on lynch 1. This is to guarantee that both lynches are town controlled.D1, vote power for myself. N1, protect on you. D2, RB on Iwan. N2 I was RB so nothing.
If you have extra vote power, you need to be the only one on lynch 2. Everyone else goes on lynch 1. This is to guarantee that both lynches are town controlled.
None i got roleblocked because of dice
So you're saying the vote power you gave yourself was temporary? Alright then, just do the same action to give yourself extra vote power this day phase.I don't have extra vote power, but I can give myself some.
So you're saying the vote power you gave yourself was temporary? Alright then, just do the same action to give yourself extra vote power this day phase.
He doesn't need you defending him on this preemptively, let the man speak. If the action he did use against JoJo was a kill, it went through his protections which is also something that needs explaining if it was a town kill.btw genome doesnt have to be scum to kill jojo
could be a blind vig kill
id like to hear him explain himself on that
Yes you will be lynch 2. Everyone else goes on lynch 1, which will be on LG unless he gives something clearing.Yep.
I like your plan, as long as everyone cooperates. I'll do the ability towards the end of the phase once I see votes are in the right place and what not. I'll be lynch 2 then?
[Vote Lynch 2 Iwan]
already did
I didn’t think the role was unlikely to be scum I thought it was unlikely that scum would give other player(s) free information like his character claim from the jump
There’s pretty much no way I think that Nitty designs a vig-like role for Babby (LG’s claim)
he most likely performed the mafia kill using his ‘town cred’
the third kill tonight that janitor’d legend is puzzling
It’s not the same kind of janitor that we presume mafia has (the ‘hidden’ kill)
So it’s likely an SK-adjacent role
but why kill legend? and why did such a kill not show up n1
Were they blocked?
This post is pretty funny in retrospect if LG actually killed JoJo.So you can be shot![]()
True, I’m really curious on what made someone pick Legend when he was an inactifag for as much as I can remember.There’s pretty much no way I think that Nitty designs a vig-like role for Babby (LG’s claim)
he most likely performed the mafia kill using his ‘town cred’
the third kill tonight that janitor’d legend is puzzling
It’s not the same kind of janitor that we presume mafia has (the ‘hidden’ kill)
So it’s likely an SK-adjacent role
but why kill legend? and why did such a kill not show up n1
Were they blocked?
your list says jojo was blocked last night, that disables protective passives, no?He doesn't need you defending him on this preemptively, let the man speak. If the action he did use against JoJo was a kill, it went through his protections which is also something that needs explaining if it was a town kill.
Sometimes there are killers/kills that target low posters specifically.True, I’m really curious on what made someone pick Legend when he was an inactifag for as much as I can remember.
Yep, just checked and he literally had 6 posts.
There’s pretty much no way I think that Nitty designs a vig-like role for Babby (LG’s claim)
he most likely performed the mafia kill using his ‘town cred’
the third kill tonight that janitor’d legend is puzzling
It’s not the same kind of janitor that we presume mafia has (the ‘hidden’ kill)
So it’s likely an SK-adjacent role
but why kill legend? and why did such a kill not show up n1
Were they blocked?
your list says jojo was blocked last night, that disables protective passives, no?
1. "Doctors," or roles with protective abilities, cannot protect themselves. Roleblocks disable some passive defenses, such as bulletproof abilities. Players learn when they are blocked.
Melodie's namesake role said the next person that died would be janitored.
So, Hayumi wasn't scum, he was a relatively harmless Indie role. Again I ask you, what does this tell us about his wagon?
There’s pretty much no way I think that Nitty designs a vig-like role for Babby (LG’s claim)
He doesn't need you defending him on this preemptively, let the man speak. If the action he did use against JoJo was a kill, it went through his protections which is also something that needs explaining if it was a town kill.
I wonder if Nitty allows for mafia targeting their own with kills. The tinfoil of Legend being mafia that they offed to get an active player into that role, that would have less suspicion on them, greatly amuses me as an interaction, especially as mafia kills in this game go before town kills, so their kill is guaranteed to trigger it unless there's an SK kill that goes through in which case it would probably be a coin flip.
I don't know Babby at all. Would Nitty design something like a janitor/hidden kill for Babby ?
LG was in Laix's group for N1
I wonder if Nitty allows for mafia targeting their own with kills. The tinfoil of Legend being mafia that they offed to get an active player into that role, that would have less suspicion on them, greatly amuses me as an interaction, especially as mafia kills in this game go before town kills, so their kill is guaranteed to trigger it unless there's an SK kill that goes through in which case it would probably be a coin flip.
Correct. I can thankfully confirm Legend was town lmao."If Melodie dies, then the next person who dies after her will have their role hidden from the thread, and Melodie will return to the game and take on their role and win condition for another chance at winning the game."
Legend died right after hayumi (melodie) was lynched
so his role wasent revealed and instead became the new hayumi's role
Very accurate. Mafia wasting a kill on their own just to get me to sub in? Cute story, although I could maybe seeing it a possibility to get a more active player, but tbh Legend wasn’t getting any attention so that’d be dumb.No way imo
I feel like nitty would only give killing roles to relatively significant mafia player roles and in the grand scheme of things Babby is a random genin
this is spicy
but why waste the resource and not instead look 4 sub
nothing against hayumi but it’s not like he’s some S-tier replacement
but tbh Legend wasn’t getting any attention so that’d be dumb.
if he was an afk townie it makes no sense at all to kill him since he is no threat to mafia
legend was likely an afk scum, else makes no sense he was targetted out of everyone
Legend was already being brought up as a vig/lynch target, and their replacement faces scrutiny like them. Due to Nitty's action priority, unless scum kills fail then the most logical first person to die in the night was going to be town barring scum on scum violence, therefore the role Melodie's player would take over. By going again conventional logic by killing their own instead of town, Hayumi could potentially go deep under the radar to endgame.this is spicy
but why waste the resource and not instead look 4 sub
nothing against hayumi but it’s not like he’s some S-tier replacement
It's also possible Legend was scum and got vigged. We have no indication of his alignment aside from Hayumi's word at the moment. We have nothing to go on from legend himself either.
the thing is the order of the kills is mafia and indie kills first and then its town.
Since mafia/indie kills go before town kills it's extremely unlikely for Legend to have died to a town vig in a night with three successful kills. That would mean all scum kills failed, and town had three kills in the night that were successful.It's also possible Legend was scum and got vigged. We have no indication of his alignment aside from Hayumi's word at the moment. We have nothing to go on from legend himself either.
@Pool Party Nitty can you confirm whether or not since mafia and indies have equal kill priority if there are any special interactions between them that you would use RNG or not for in order to determine which one gains a ‘higher priority’?
2. During the day, actions are processed in the order they're received, and they're processed as soon as the host is able to do so. During the night, actions are processed at the end of the night phase, and in the following order:Does it say that in the OP or is that just normal mafia order of operations?
In the OPDoes it say that in the OP or is that just normal mafia order of operations?
Legend was already being brought up as a vig/lynch target, and their replacement faces scrutiny like them. Due to Nitty's action priority, unless scum kills fail then the most logical first person to die in the night was going to be town barring scum on scum violence, therefore the role Melodie's player would take over. By going again conventional logic by killing their own instead of town, Hayumi could potentially go deep under the radar to endgame.
I don’t think this tinfoil is actually likely to be true, especially as it relies on townies caring about the priority rules enough to make logical deductions on the situation, but it's a cool 4d chess move to ponder.
I agree with Aragorn. He is usually passive, but this time isn't even questioning people. Could be that he rolled scum this game.
Here are his voters:
SinRaven - Hayumi
Iwandesu - Hayumi
Badalight - Hayumi
Remchu - Hayumi
Iwandesu - Hayumi
is a - Hayumi
Kira - Hayumi
Broki - Hayumi
As I already said, I still suspect Badalight and Kira. Both voted for two wagons that weren't on a Mafia scum. I don't like Iwan's voting pattern either so far. I feel like there is a high chance we can find scum amongst those three. So I would defo like claims from Iwan and Kira this DP.
As for the other votes:
Aragorn I agree is scummy (his vote didn't count, but he also voted Hayumi).
Wad: His reasoning seemed genuine, so Town lean on him.
Broki: Her vote seemed a bit opportunistic compared to the rest. And her defense for me last DP is giving me bad vibes because she seemed to know exactly that I was not Mafia which only Mafia would know.
I generally agree with the first part but does he have to be scum
We are working on the current theory that JoJo was killed by LG who carried out the faction kill right?
perhaps legend was killed by 3P
It's also possible Legend was scum and got vigged. We have no indication of his alignment aside from Hayumi's word at the moment. We have nothing to go on from legend himself either.
Basically, for Legend to be scum he would have to have died to scum vs scum violence or the 4d chess move tinfoil I pondered.
Sure even as I wrote that post I thought about how in this theory someone from the scum team could come into the thread pointing out how due to kill priority Legend and therefore Hayumi are very likely town. Even then, it relies on town listening to their logic, which on NF isn't a given. It's also an unlikely tinfoil as very few players on this site can think up such 4d chess moves. Town players with my theory crafting mindset are vastly more likely to think up these 4d chess moves then any mafia are to implement them. Even smart strategists on a scum team play it safe majority of the time unless they need to make a drastic move, which this mafia shouldn't feel any pressure to do.Am I missing something or is it really not contingent only on that since they could very well have one of their own come into the thread and say “well based on kill priority legend is likely town” such as what you have done?
...by scum on scum violence I was talking about independent vs mafia, such as an SK killing mafia!Legend or mafia killing a hostile indie Legend....or killed by indie/3P (perfectly logical if we are working with LG being mafia’s killer last night)
It's possible scum has a kill that only functions on low posters, or they were trying to go for a low poster to not disturb a beneficial game state.If all that is true, what's the reason for killing Legend? Surely there are better targets for scum to take out?
Also tinfoil, but a replacement was killed n1 and n2. Perhaps it was the same person/vig that did that?
The Melodie role does specify that shed take the next person who died after hers roleIf Melodie dies, then the next person who dies after her will have their role hidden from the thread,
Mafia replacing Legend with a more active player would only make sense, if Legends was under fire. Which he wasn't.
On the other hand why would anyone go for Legend?
It's possible scum has a kill that only functions on low posters, or they were trying to go for a low poster to not disturb a beneficial game state.