Game Members Mafia 4 (indies win!)

[Hayumi]

Hmmm
maybe they have some specific "cant rolereveal" thing going on for them

Or they just don’t want to reveal what their role is to protect themselves from role fishers, also it’s probably also because there’s advice against doing so in the rules.

 

[Laix]

Actually yeah death note might actually be a fucking reality

Even if there wasn’t, trying to get people to role reveal D1 is so scummy I’d push their lynch

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also hot take RemChu is on the same meta as Get Good.

[Vote lynch RemChu]

Could be but I've seen him do that meta as town too. I think remchu on crack is NAI.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What I mean on the wad thing is, how is wad scummy for fluffing when 100% of the players are also fluffing?

There is logical connection that is missing here.

 

[Laix]

What I mean on the wad thing is, how is wad scummy for fluffing when 100% of the players are also fluffing?

There is logical connection that is missing here.

I think he was trying to argue WAD provides nothing as town so let’s lynch and if we hit scum then that’s a bonus

 

[Nessos]

I am finally here
What did I miss on the first 20 Pages?

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Yeah, I hate role fishing. We shouldn't reveal anything because 1) Roles are NAI anyway since any role could be scum or Town and 2) There is a warning. I don't think asking for claims is productive, so let's just go by reads.

 

[Laix]

I am finally here
What did I miss on the first 20 Pages?

cooler and remchu fighting

someone has a posting restriction where they can only communicate through the mod

iwandesu is rolefishing

 

[Hayumi]

I am finally here
What did I miss on the first 20 Pages?

You’ve been outed as scum. Last words?

 

[Hayumi]

Broadcast message:

 

[Nessos]

Were the participants for the aftershow already announced?

 

[Hayumi]

Were the participants for the aftershow already announced?

Not till the end of the dp I think.

 

[Badalight]

What I mean on the wad thing is, how is wad scummy for fluffing when 100% of the players are also fluffing?

There is logical connection that is missing here.

I feel like its disingenuous to call everything fluff so far. Yeah it's natural for a lot of people's first few posts to be a formality, but there has been some discussion and a few back and forths.

 

[Nessos]

You’ve been outed as scum. Last words?

I am already outed as blue scum

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Cooler and SinRaven are awfully quiet. I would appreciate them posting more. They're usually way more active. Like top poster kind of active.

 

[Nessos]

cooler and remchu fighting

someone has a posting restriction where they can only communicate through the mod

iwandesu is rolefishing

Would be funny if host and player would live in opposite sides of earth.

 

[Shizune]

Were the participants for the aftershow already announced?

Since day 1 lasts for 48 hours, which is twice the usual length, the after show guests will be announced at the 24 hour mark/halfway point. That’s also when I’ll begin accepting questions.

 

[Worm Juice]

@wormhole do you have post restriction ?

idk

 

[SinRaven]

Broadcast message:

I'm working but lurking

 

[Worm Juice]

Melodie where are you​

 

[Iwandesu]

Even if there wasn’t, trying to get people to role reveal D1 is so scummy I’d push their lynch

Nah
Roleclaims are solid thing at day 1
Just look at our throne of lies games where i claimed doctor at day 1
Oh wait

 

[Laix]

Broadcast message:

sin is defo too quiet

Cooler’s activity levels are pretty normal imo

 

[Cooler]

Could be but I've seen him do that meta as town too. I think remchu on crack is NAI.

I saw parellels between these posts;

This attitude is shit. We are going to lynch scum day 1. I can feel it.

^ Get Good 3.

If we are both town, we cannot lose.

if LG is town over 80% chance of lynching scum today.

if Melodie is also
99.99% chance of lynching scum today. Mark my words.

Not sure what I make of the wild overreaction though tbh.

 

[Laix]

Nah
Roleclaims are solid thing at day 1
Just look at our throne of lies games where i claimed doctor at day 1
Oh wait

 

[Cooler]

Broadcast message:

So we can narrow down the broadcaster to a poster who's scum hunting consists of activity checks.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Sin and Cooler appearing both after being called out is creepy .

 

[Laix]

Broadcast message:

because they are both lurking and avoiding discussion as they are both members known for digging their own graves the more they talk

 

[Magic]

Why hunt the announcer. They arent inherently scummy. No point.

What I mean on the wad thing is, how is wad scummy for fluffing when 100% of the players are also fluffing?

There is logical connection that is missing here.

Are you going to avoid talking to me directly? What's wrong? Who hurt you?

 

[Magic]

I could debate but I don't see an argument in this post to debate against.

He is scum because...?

Is everyone this dense around here.


Maybe when the game is over I'll rant about it. But lol.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Broadcast message:

Smash Bros role madness by Aries.

 

[SinRaven]

Broadcast message:

I mean as I said I was already lurking. Aint got anything to say at the moment, sue me

 

[Laix]

@broadcaster

You - town, but more so based on your role as it’s hard to give reads when you can’t respond as easily or thoroughly
Hayumi - town
RemChu - town

Iwandesu - scum
SinRaven - suspicious
Cooler - suspicious but I’m leaning more towards town

 

[Lord Melkor]

saying it now, whoever has the iwan role is scum

I could also see it as indie role.

 

[Cooler]

because they are both lurking and avoiding discussion as they are both members known for digging their own graves the more they talk

*Neg*

 

[Laix]

*Neg*

sorry I’m just going off sandwich mafia xx

 

[SinRaven]

Tbh I usually talk myself out of lynches, not into them

 

[Iwandesu]

So we can narrow down the broadcaster to a poster who's scum hunting consists of activity checks.

You actively looking for him at this point in time is kinda meh tbh

 

[Laix]

@broadcaster

You - town, but more so based on your role as it’s hard to give reads when you can’t respond as easily or thoroughly
Hayumi - town
RemChu - town

Iwandesu - scum
SinRaven - suspicious
Cooler - suspicious but I’m leaning more towards town

going off this, if I had to choose a lynch target I’d pressure Sin or straight up lynch Iwan. That rolefishing was too much.

Also throw Bada in the suspicious part

 

[Laix]

Tbh I usually talk myself out of lynches, not into them

I’m sure you’ve been D1’d the most here

 

[Cooler]

You actively looking for him at this point in time is kinda meh tbh

It was a dig at them calling out my activity, not an actual attempt to hunt them.

 

[SinRaven]

I’m sure you’ve been D1’d the most here

Uhh DDL? Or that one person who I'm not gonna name?

I only like three or four games in which I was D1'd, all of which happened years ago and you were only around for like one of them.

Lynch all liars??

 

[Laix]

@broadcaster

that’s because I am you

​

 

[Iwandesu]

@broadcaster

You - town, but more so based on your role as it’s hard to give reads when you can’t respond as easily or thoroughly
Hayumi - town
RemChu - town

Iwandesu - scum
SinRaven - suspicious
Cooler - suspicious but I’m leaning more towards town

It is not a mafia game if laix doesnt think im scum

 

[SinRaven]

It is not a mafia game if laix doesnt think im scum

It is not a mafia game if you are not scum

 

[Lord Melkor]

Initial read everyone is town
some read stronger than others.

@Dragon D. Luffy spent too much time talking to the host which is weird imo. That's a negative. He can get day 1 lynched if he keeps it up.

Last time I remember you actually scumhunting like this was in Get Good 3 where you were scum.. hmm

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Why am I being hunted, though ? I'm Town.

 

[Lord Melkor]

If there are indies it's a secret i guess?

They can claim non-hostile indies as is the tradition.

 

[John Wayne]

It is not a mafia game if laix doesnt think im scum

It's better to assume you are, the math doesn't lie.

 

[Iwandesu]

It is not a mafia game if you are not scum

I legit havent been scum in any game since i changed my name tbh

 

[John Wayne]

They can claim non-hostile indies as is the tradition.

I think the new tradition is to claim Hostile indie and then carry Town anyway

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

I can imagine there being a Cult or perhaps a Jester as the 3rd party roles. Don't think there is a kill all, but you never know.

 

[Lord Melkor]

This is a blatant lie. I was anything but confident. You're reaching here.

Hmm I do not like how triggered Remchu is here, I remember him bein chill as town in previous games...

I agree.



We don't necessarily need to look for the individual, but we could start discussing possible roles that it would fit with.

As some mentioned, I do not like people hunting for the announcer role, like you are doing. Role revealing day 1 is bad move.

Also y’all this is off topic but I just went through the player list out of curiosity and checked who posted, and the broadcaster person has to be either Babby, Nevan or Flower.

I have some suspcions who this role may be, but I do not think we need to force him to role reveal.

Good you are melting SOOO hard im actually getting curious
I dont think you would do this as mafia
Could you be the indie ?
Is that why you were asking "hmm i wonder if there are any indies ?"

Game this size without indies?! Why would you think so?

@broadcaster

You - town, but more so based on your role as it’s hard to give reads when you can’t respond as easily or thoroughly
Hayumi - town
RemChu - town

Iwandesu - scum
SinRaven - suspicious
Cooler - suspicious but I’m leaning more towards town

Hm, any reasons for the scum read on Iwan?

 

[Magic]

Hmm I do not like how triggered Remchu is here, I remember him bein chill as town in previous games...

That's me pressing him. I have my clarity about me and are not angry. Every post is meticulous crafted with an end goal in mind. To lynch scum.

I would hope you are doing the same.

 

[Magic]

Meticulously crafted*

 

[Cooler]

Meticulously crafted*

The only thing of yours that's meticulously crafted is your avi's backside.

 

[Magic]

If @Badalight doesn't get more engaged besides being friendly and saying hi to people need to investigate him and stuff.

 

[Magic]

The only thing of yours that's meticulously crafted is your avi's backside.

This is something scum would focus on. Pervert.

 

[Cooler]

This is something scum would focus on. Pervert.

Rich. You obviously switched to that avi to distract us from the content of your posts.

 

[Kingslayer]

Remchu is playing with passive aggressive in todays game compared to his usual one i saw in smash and get good.

 

[Magic]

Rich. You obviously switched to that avi to distract us from the content of your posts.

My words are up here. Focus.

 

[Cooler]

My words are up here. Focus.

...
...
...

Sorry what were you saying?

 

[Iwandesu]

Remchu is playing with passive aggressive in todays game compared to his usual one i saw in smash and get good.

On smash remchu was culted and he was decently subtly until he said "fuck ive been culted by platinum" (which was a lie so hey)
Didnt play get good so dunno about that

 

[SinRaven]

Can y'all lynch Cooler already?

 

[Laix]

Even if there wasn’t, trying to get people to role reveal D1 is so scummy I’d push their lynch

that’s why I think you’re scum @Scumdesu

I was right about you being scum in a Faves, and while I was wrong in the Time Travel one you did fake claim a doctor

 

[Laix]

Hmm I do not like how triggered Remchu is here, I remember him bein chill as town in previous games...



As some mentioned, I do not like people hunting for the announcer role, like you are doing. Role revealing day 1 is bad move.




I have some suspcions who this role may be, but I do not think we need to force him to role reveal.



Game this size without indies?! Why would you think so?



Hm, any reasons for the scum read on Iwan?

was trying to get the broadcaster to role claim. OP advises against role claiming. He backed off once I called him out on it.

badalight too

 

[Kingslayer]

So @Flower do you have post restrictive i see you are active in the game ? Is there some 5d chess going on with her ?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I was only pointing out who the player itself could be out of my own pure interest, not to like hunt them out or anything. Discussing what their actually role might be is just open role fishing in a game that may punish role revealing.

You seem defensive.

By the way, I got a private message from the broadcaster saying “I’m not Flower” just remembered lmao. Not sure if they’re lying or not but it wouldn’t surprise me with her paranoid ass

I got a private message from them too, though not telling me anything about being Flower or not.

Also I'm sort of doing the iwandesu routine and catching up while posting, I'll get to the questions asked eventually.

 

[Laix]

So @Flower do you have post restrictive i see you are active in the game ? Is there some 5d chess going on with her ?

girl... it should be obvious now

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Dragon D. Luffy Would like to hear your thoughts on Cooler and I.
and your top two scum reads and your strongest town read.

I think you are town/town probably

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Based on my complete inability to read Cooler yet the fact it seems likely he is just meta reading you since he did not see Remchu on Crack be town before, so I can see where his rationale is coming from.

Meanwhile you are Remchu on Crack which is NAI but you do seem more active than last game so I guess lean town a little.

But reads are light.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

So far I think Rem, Laix and Hayumi are Town. I don't like Badalight's and Iwan's role fishing at all. A lot of players need to get more active. I know we have a lot of time, but we should use it to be productive for that reason.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I feel like its disingenuous to call everything fluff so far. Yeah it's natural for a lot of people's first few posts to be a formality, but there has been some discussion and a few back and forths.

Until that post Remchu made, 99% of the thread was fluff. It's only after he started throwing shit at every direction that the scenario you are describing started to form.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I saw parellels between these posts;



^ Get Good 3.



Not sure what I make of the wild overreaction though tbh.

I know what you mean but about 1 or 2 years ago he started doing that in games and he was town in the few games it happened.

In fact he got involved in it with such intensity he eventually broke after a few failures and took a long break from mafia.

There was even a game where started acting like this, then he day 1 vigged me and I was the doctor. I gave him a hard time about it and made memes about his incompetence, and his response was to ignore everything and quit mafia for over a year.

Remchu has a high self-confidence but it's easy to shatter. If he starts doing it for a few games eventually he's gonna breakdown again.

 

[Badalight]

I also got a PM from broadcaster after asking for one, fyi.

 

[John Wayne]

I also got a PM from broadcaster after asking for one, fyi.

Since you already revealed that are you planning on sharing it?

 

[Badalight]

Since you already revealed that are you planning on sharing it?

It just said "what do you want to ask me?"

I can't reply via pm though so.

 

[Cooler]

I know what you mean but about 1 or 2 years ago he started doing that in games and he was town in the few games it happened.

In fact he got involved in it with such intensity he eventually broke after a few failures and took a long break from mafia.

There was even a game where started acting like this, then he day 1 vigged me and I was the doctor. I gave him a hard time about it and made memes about his incompetence, and his response was to ignore everything and quit mafia for over a year.

Remchu has a high self-confidence but it's easy to shatter. If he starts doing it for a few games eventually he's gonna breakdown again.

Ok fair enough. I found his reaction to my vote almost too scummy to be scum anyway lol.

 

[Iwandesu]

that’s why I think you’re scum @Scumdesu

I was right about you being scum in a Faves, and while I was wrong in the Time Travel one you did fake claim a doctor

You being right on faves means nothing lol
Pushing role claims day 1 is suboptimal but it is better than straight up mislynching

 

[Badalight]

Correction, it was "what do you want me to tell you?"

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

It's like Rem gets a burst of testosterone and adrenaline at once and then he starts playing by yelling and screaming and going FUCK YEEEAAAAH LET'S SCUMHUNT while also abandoning all semblance of critical thought and just going after his first suspect with extreme firepower.

But eventually this fails because every strategy will fail at mafia sooner or later, so Remchu's ego just shatters.