Game Members Mafia 4 (indies win!)

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

I can only vote for one lynch, so he needs somebody else with 0 voting power for the second wagon. Consult players on the LG wagon yesterday. Let all of them go on the second lynch.

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

I feel like this force is just a game mechanic because my role is built for countering that and I don't know why there'd be the need for this if I just had to counter one single role.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Does it make sense for your role? The mysterious force? I know nothing about Nevan or the flavor text of your abilities so...

No it wouldn't make sense. Why would I take away everyone's vote power when I reduce mine?

 

[Natalija]

I have no idea if I have vote power or not.

Doesn't hurt to try though, right?

 

[Badalight]

@Flower I can control lynch 2. You worry about lynch 1.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Also Juan is not telling the truth. After DDL and Remchu flipped you guys can see their abilities. Juan claimed he was roleblocked but DDL's ability show that's impossible if Juan is town.

 

[Badalight]

Also Juan is not telling the truth. After DDL and Remchu flipped you guys can see their abilities. Juan claimed he was roleblocked but DDL's ability show that's impossible if Juan is town.

you're discounting the possibility of a non town roleblock

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

My passive was active last DP, too. The only ones aside from me who were on Juan were LG and north. Both flipped and both had 0 voting power yesterday. So with me Juan had three votes on him due to my passive.

LG's wagon were:

Melodie - LG
Nessos - LG
Broki - LG
Kira - LG


So all of those ^ four combined must have had a voting power of 3 (if RNG hit LG) or more last DP. So we need to look into them as well.

 

[Underworld Broker]

What did Juan claim yesterday

I mean abilities yada yada

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

you're discounting the possibility of a non town roleblock

you mean indie?

That's also possible but if you read DDL's ability again, it mentions only alignment

[Passive - Rune: Opila] - Ratchet uses this magical artifact to manipulate the abilities used by his fellow townies. If an innocent player roleblocks another innocent player, or if an innocent player protects a guilty player, then Ratchet will redirect their ability to himself.

 

[Cooler]

What's your base VP?

1.

 

[Worm Juice]

Say "yes I'm town" then we're Gucci



I still think its Kvothe (the mysterious thing), there was no way I got redirected on n2 since my first action went through with no problem at Aragorn.

Also I only went for Kvothe cause she kept bringing up the "oh I'm blocked tonight" stuff , so yah

Yes I am town

Don’t like brands though. Primark is my favourite shop.

 

[Badalight]

1.

Then you have -1 vp today.

 

[Underworld Broker]

My guess for the vote thing would be melo since she doesnt seem to have night actions (or cant be investigated if actually scum)

Kira idk, he hasnt really done/hinted at anything???

 

[Badalight]

you mean indie?

That's also possible but if you read DDL's ability again, it mentions only alignment

How does that preclude mafia?

 

[Laix]

Guess I’m getting revived to pump some drama into this game.

See you all tonight xx

/dead

 

[Badalight]

My guess for the vote thing would be melo since she doesnt seem to have night actions (or cant be investigated if actually scum)

Kira idk, he hasnt really done/hinted at anything???

Kira is in the survivor lynch

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

How does that preclude mafia?

Do you think Juan is just simply indie then?

 

[Underworld Broker]

Kira is in the survivor lynch

Oh right, lol

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I wish DDL can dead post

 

[Natalija]

Do you think Juan is just simply indie then?

Since he's you, it's entirely possible

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I'm not the most creative person >_> can anyone else think of anything for the wish mechanic? It has to be related to something involving posting I think.

 

[Badalight]

Do you think Juan is just simply indie then?

What I'm saying is.

DDL's ability redirects town to town actions. What if the roleblock was from a mafia to a town?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

What I'm saying is.

DDL's ability redirects town to town actions. What if the roleblock was from a mafia to a town?

Remchu flipped town so how is that possible??

 

[Underworld Broker]

I wish everyone who died so far could post alongside us in the thread

 

[Badalight]

Remchu flipped town so how is that possible??

There are 32 other players in the game mate.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

There are 32 other players in the game mate.

i... what?

Remchu said he blocked Juan. Juan confirms this is to be true. DDL said that's impossible because his roleblock would've been redirected to DDL if Juan or Remchu was town. Remchu is flipped to be town.

Like are we supposed to just ignore all of that?

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Yeah, Juan is scum. Another possibility is that he has a lynch dodge. Just reread his posts and he said he will be alive this DP. Don't think he's Town given all this.

 

[Badalight]

i... what?

Remchu said he blocked Juan. Juan confirms this is to be true. DDL said that's impossible because his roleblock would've been redirected to DDL if Juan or Remchu was town. Remchu is flipped to be town.

Like are we supposed to just ignore all of that?

That can all be true while simultaneously Juan got hit by a different roleblock... like come on dude.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Uuhh wait iirc he'll be able to post after dying??

 

[Underworld Broker]

Feels good to be above wad now btw

 

[Underworld Broker]

Hey @is a

What exactly was that message you received about getting sick?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

That can all be true while simultaneously Juan got hit by a different roleblock... like come on dude.

Ok fine, I didn't think of that.

Whatever the case then I did check Juan and he showed up guilty for me.

Anyways, DDL was telling the truth about his ability so if we go back to N1 instead. Santi, Ratchet, Owner. He didn't get a notification for his second ability.

@Natalija i forgot to ask, but your survivor ability. Did you only target wad? Because Nessos tracked you and saw you only target wad.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Feels good to be above wad now btw

he might be occupied with the other thread

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I wish I can sleep more

 

[Natalija]

Ok fine, I didn't think of that.

Whatever the case then I did check Juan and he showed up guilty for me.

Anyways, DDL was telling the truth about his ability so if we go back to N1 instead. Santi, Ratchet, Owner. He didn't get a notification for his second ability.

@Natalija i forgot to ask, but your survivor ability. Did you only target wad? Because Nessos tracked you and saw you only target wad.

No, that is not how it works. I give Nitty a list of people and it’s done. I don’t know what that means from a tracker perspective though.

 

[Natalija]

Why would he waste a track on me

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

No, that is not how it works. I give Nitty a list of people and it’s done. I don’t know what that means from a tracker perspective though.

he should've seen you target multiple people but he only saw you target wad

 

[Natalija]

he should've seen you target multiple people but he only saw you target wad

Well, that’s pretty impossible.

 

[Badalight]

Ok fine, I didn't think of that.

Whatever the case then I did check Juan and he showed up guilty for me.

Anyways, DDL was telling the truth about his ability so if we go back to N1 instead. Santi, Ratchet, Owner. He didn't get a notification for his second ability.

@Natalija i forgot to ask, but your survivor ability. Did you only target wad? Because Nessos tracked you and saw you only target wad.

Okay, so why are you just now saying this? When did you check him?

 

[Hayumi]

Ok fine, I didn't think of that.

Whatever the case then I did check Juan and he showed up guilty for me.

Anyways, DDL was telling the truth about his ability so if we go back to N1 instead. Santi, Ratchet, Owner. He didn't get a notification for his second ability.

@Natalija i forgot to ask, but your survivor ability. Did you only target wad? Because Nessos tracked you and saw you only target wad.

Juan showed up guilty....? I swear to god if my instincts were actually correct.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Okay, so why are you just now saying this? When did you check him?

I said it earlier

 

[Natalija]

Well, that’s pretty impossible.

Unless if I was redirected with someone or something?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Unless if I was redirected with someone or something?

that still doesn't make sense cause we can see the survivor targets in the other thread lol

Anyways, I have a couple of interviews today. Will be free later if anyone has questions

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Can we just acknowledge Nessos slipped and move to lynching him?

 

[Badalight]

wish master, free flower

 

[Iwandesu]

What if the mysterious force has smth to do with the iwan role

Possible but unlikely
Sounds something to specific to bank my role on

 

[Iwandesu]

wish master, free flower

Bro wtf
free myself

 

[Badalight]

Bro wtf
free myself

I already said free the people in the survivor lynch

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

And again, if a redirector hits a player who can target multiple people, then just the first target gets changed.

Basically:

LG tracks Nessos and Sin, gets redirected to Jojo, then he tracks Jojo and Sin. So Nessos would have received Jojo and Sin as results.

So if Nat was redirected, he'd still receive multiple names.

That Tracker claim is highly flawed.

 

[Iwandesu]

I already said free the people in the survivor lynch

you dont get it :flip

 

[Underworld Broker]

Oh just realized I resubmitted one of my actions on n2, which prolly made it a bit wonky with the results

 

[Natalija]

you dont get it :flip

You seem restrained by your role

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

to be perfectly honest i still don’t know what’s going on with the whole Nessos situation. I didn’t bother to figure out that interaction it just seemed like he was tracked because more than one person verified his results. Could still be mafia tracker but welp

@Underworld Broker i was sick but then I felt better on night 2

that’s why I was highly sus of Aragorn. Because he and Badalight targeted me n1 and I’ve trusted bada since the jump. But maybe whoever infected me can’t be watched because I still trust bada tbh

 

[Underworld Broker]

to be perfectly honest i still don’t know what’s going on with the whole Nessos situation. I didn’t bother to figure out that interaction it just seemed like he was tracked because more than one person verified his results. Could still be mafia tracker but welp

@Underworld Broker i was sick but then I felt better on night 2

that’s why I was highly sus of Aragorn. Because he and Badalight targeted me n1 and I’ve trusted bada since the jump. But maybe whoever infected me can’t be watched because I still trust bada tbh

Thoughts on melo apparently not having done an action on n1 (maybe she cant be tracked/watched cause GF?)

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Flower is town. Let's not go into that @is a

if you say so

Say "yes I'm town" then we're Gucci



I still think its Kvothe (the mysterious thing), there was no way I got redirected on n2 since my first action went through with no problem at Aragorn.

Also I only went for Kvothe cause she kept bringing up the "oh I'm blocked tonight" stuff , so yah

Nah it’s ratchet
I’m so confident the karma role is responsible for this I will literally change my avatar to whatever anyone wants for a month if I’m wrong

kind of an OGI thing to say but I am lock-in confident about this

Most likely one of them is.

@is a if you can prove yourself, do it now.

Cant do it instantly this day phase. Will have to wait for end of day and night.

Yeah, all this karma is pretty annoying, but also, nitty has been confirmed masochist. Idk how you(nitty) put up with all the vote shenanigans; that’s above my mod pay grade.

I have a new theory about the mysterious force shenanigans

It gave us +1 vote power at the end of the game but perhaps it is punishing town every day phase where a town killing role kills another townie (or lynches?)

that would be pretty karma-ish

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Thoughts on melo apparently not having done an action on n1 (maybe she cant be tracked/watched cause GF?)

I’m still suspicious on her and the fact she’s done piss all to help solve the game has obviously not helped

don’t really trust Kvothe clearing her

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

@is a

Did you read my latest message? And you still think his claim adds up?

 

[Badalight]

If all of that is true, that sounds like an indie role.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

@Flower

like I said I’ve given up on ever figuring out that LG-Nessos-nfcnorth situation

I probably could have tried to figure it out in earnest, like you, but I was legitimately pissed that all of them only decided to be active once all their claims came into dispute

So for all I care you can lynch Nessos as well

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

man fuck this phase
and fuck you cunts only showing up actively when you get accused
kys

@Flower

the exact moment i tilted out of d3

 

[Underworld Broker]

Nah it’s ratchet
I’m so confident the karma role is responsible for this I will literally change my avatar to whatever anyone wants for a month if I’m wrong

kind of an OGI thing to say but I am lock-in confident about this

Omg let me pick your avy if you're wrong

 

[Underworld Broker]

I hope you're not wrong cause I love your current avy

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

If all of that is true, that sounds like an indie role.

it’s obviously an indie role
it is colored like it belongs to a role but it’s not mafia colors

Omg let me pick your avy if you're wrong

Sure

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

mysterious and sinister force

thats the color it uses
doesn’t sound like a game mechanic at all it seems very much like it’s the role of a hostile indie

 

[Iwandesu]

You seem restrained by your role

i cant confirm nor deny anything
PLS I WISH TO BE FREE @Pool Party Nitty

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

Lynch 1: Juan.

Lynch 2: Nessos.

Anyone have better options for the lynches this DP?

 

[Shizune]

i cant confirm nor deny anything
PLS I WISH TO BE FREE @Pool Party Nitty

Freedom is a state of mind, Iwan

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

yes
lynch cooler
dude has put up zero defense other than bUt BuS dRiVeR

“yeah but ur obviously bussing him wad”



unless he puts forth a legitimate claim that somehow convinced me i had my ability compromised somehow i might just lynch him myself

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

The lynch won't start till I join in ~

If you explain to me how exactly he is such confirmed scum by actually claiming what you did I could join you, but else nah.

 

[Underworld Broker]

If you can apparently avoid a lynch and ratchet can avoid a lynch

And you're sure hes scum

Wouldnt that make you scum too tho?

Could be that you're actually the karma role and had a janitor kill, lucky you got a mod killed with the Laix kill

There havent been any of those hidden kills anymore so its likely a serial killer??

 

[Underworld Broker]

Wad are you town

 

[Badalight]

Broki and WAD are the two I trust most in this game. WAD put forth Cooler. Broki put forth Kvothe. Those are the 2 at the top of my list. Nessos and Ratchet are 3 and 4 but I can't do anything to ratchet so...

 

[Underworld Broker]

Dont trust my result I got possibly redirected cause i forgot that I changed one of actions and it might have fcked with the result (and i somehow did end up redirected to the mysterious force lol)

 

[Cooler]

yes
lynch cooler
dude has put up zero defense other than bUt BuS dRiVeR

“yeah but ur obviously bussing him wad”



unless he puts forth a legitimate claim that somehow convinced me i had my ability compromised somehow i might just lynch him myself

I generally hate claiming for one, and two what would claiming my role actually prove anyway? Not like it will prove my alignment based on flavour or anything.

 

[Badalight]

Then the mysterious force leaving the game thread makes sense why ratchet wants to claim he's unlynchable.

 

[Ratchet]

Omg let me pick your avy if you're wrong

Nah, allow me.

 

[Badalight]

Would a roleblock make him lynchable? Or do yall think he's untargettable?

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Broadcast message:

i literally said so already
i could target three players and if any of them fulfill the following two requirements:

1. Must be guilty
2. Must have targeted you with a hostile action

it will confirm the guilty player
of the options of ratchet, cooler, and WPK only cooler met both criteria

Ratchet and WPK could still very well be guilty but just never targeted me with a hostile action

If you can apparently avoid a lynch and ratchet can avoid a lynch

And you're sure hes scum

Wouldnt that make you scum too tho?

Could be that you're actually the karma role and had a janitor kill, lucky you got a mod killed with the Laix kill

There havent been any of those hidden kills anymore so its likely a serial killer??

what
i sussed ratchet long before his so called unlynchable claim came into play
i don’t believe it first of all and if it was true then i don’t think it’s town oriented at all
and i can literally prove im the iwandesu role tonight

Wad are you town

yes I am town

 

[Shizune]

Broadcast message:

I trust Broki and Natalija. Rest is kinda...meh. Bada is getting more trustworthy. Wad depending on his claim. I absolutely do not trust Kira, Nessos, Melodie and Iwan in any way.