Game World of Warcraft: The Eastern Kingdoms (town+indie victory!)

[Wild]

Coo! (Okosan could see it being possible. Knowing nothing of the lore we haven't seen a pro-town indie yet and it's probable that one exists)

Thought you were lynching me today

 

[poutanko]

We have to decide on what we're gonna do

Lynch today?
Lynch at night?
Other stuff if this and that is flipped?

Lynch today - White (take down the brain)
Lynch at night - Kira or Plat
Idk what side Nevan is since Kira tunneled him. He's not on Katsu's web (bussing team mate or actually from Red and confirmed via different method?)
Still don't trust novase

 

[Hidden]

Thought you were lynching me today

Coo! (Well you're definitely up there for Okosan for sure, but there's bigger fish to fry right now he thinks. The main reason Okosan susses you in the first place is how shade was acting suspicious and pretending they couldn't post N1)

 

[Hidden]

Cooooo! (Can someone tell Okosan what the main arguments for White, Play, Kira, and any other big lynch targets today are? He mostly skimmed through the day he wasn't here for so he thinks he has the gist, but he wants to make sure)

 

[Wild]

Coo! (Well you're definitely up there for Okosan for sure, but there's bigger fish to fry right now he thinks. The main reason Okosan susses you in the first place is how shade was acting suspicious and pretending they couldn't post N1)

Ok just lemme know when you’re ready so I can put on some make-up and look pretty

 

[Underworld Broker]

Cooooo! (Can someone tell Okosan what the main arguments for White, Play, Kira, and any other big lynch targets today are? He mostly skimmed through the day he wasn't here for so he thinks he has the gist, but he wants to make sure)

Melo posted a list with 4 names, guaranteed that there is scum within those 4. Some other people getting sussed because of how they did play

 

[Melodie]

@Melodie senpai notices me, sorry if I was too harsh today

Spoiler:

I still don't trust you until I see Plat's flip

I mean technically you shouldn't trust me even then as you said due to multiple factions. I don't know his alignment, for all I know it could be not him and one of the other 3...but I believe /shrug

 

[Underworld Broker]

Lynch today - White (take down the brain)
Lynch at night - Kira or Plat
Idk what side Nevan is since Kira tunneled him. He's not on Katsu's web (bussing team mate or actually from Red and confirmed via different method?)
Still don't trust novase

What if White flips town tho?
Night lynch would be worth a shot at them, agree

I also still dont trust nova

 

[poutanko]

Cooooo! (Can someone tell Okosan what the main arguments for White, Play, Kira, and any other big lynch targets today are? He mostly skimmed through the day he wasn't here for so he thinks he has the gist, but he wants to make sure)

White from PM leak+ his own behavior+ cop results that match Katsu's web list.

Kira defended him for that leak + on Mel's list

Plat bec he's on Mel's list + a vet player who might order Dega's kill + lay low

 

[Wild]

[Change Vote Dr. White]

 

[Underworld Broker]

Plat bec he's on Mel's list + a vet player who might order Dega's kill + lay low

Btw. Is he usually more active?

Tbh I remember him playing like that when he was indie in shizunes RPG game

 

[Expo]

[Change Vote Dr. White]

 

[Underworld Broker]

Idk if your votes count if you dont add the word "lynch"

 

[poutanko]

What if White flips town tho?
Night lynch would be worth a shot at them, agree

I also still dont trust nova

Doubt that. Hinted as role/flavor cop, not killed, not blocked, not crushed, can get up to 3 roles so far

 

[Hidden]

Cooo! COO! (Tbh Okosan has been suspicious of Kira since the beginning of the game He's tunneled 100% on Nevan for the entirety of the game so far, but has barely even pushed him really. All his other posts have been mechanic related or fluff)

 

[poutanko]

Normally I would expect after his first reveal that some scum would screw him (like LG did Katsu) yet he's still getting results (and accurate going by what WAD and Leeroy said). So yea, that alone is... unless of course that's Katsu's result from early game.

 

[Juan]

[Vote Lynch Juan]

nah

 

[Wild]

nah

Yes

 

[Juan]

Idk why you were under the impression I investigated him

why wouldn't I be???????

 

[Hidden]

Coooooo? (Just something Okosan was thinking about in terms of the mafia's and their sizes. The Scarlet one seems like a normal mafia honestly so probably 4-5 people in that. And Katuargi's faction seems a lot like the mafia Okosan was a part of in Shizune's RPG game. After a certain point in the game we unlocked some abilities of our death god and wrecked the game with it, like how they're unlocking stuff tomorrow. Plus Katsu's role seems a lot like one of our roles in that it was entirely info related. So if the trend's continuing there's 3 people in that )

 

[Juan]

Yes

no

 

[Dr. White]

Well Plat pressure went no where.

I think the best lynch for the day is
[vote lynch Nevan]

 

[Expo]

Even if someone does flip scum on Mel's list, I wouldn't put too much stock into it. Even if 2 people flip and they're from the same faction I wouldn't put much stock into it. It might just mean Mel is on the other scum faction.

I have a list and taking out who is pretty much confirmed town basically puts it down to a 50-50 shot or so of anyone else being scum.

If you take out: Wad, WPK, Ratchet, Mystic Serenade, Leeroy, Kvothe, Wild, Sworder, Pou, me (10)

you have: Tiger, White, A Optimistic, UB, Novase, Odd, Juan, Sharkskin, Nevan, Aizen, Okosan, Plat, Kira, Didi. Mel, Oreki (16)

If we figure there to be maybe 8 or 9 scum left, everyone on that bottom list has roughly a 50-50 shot of being scum.

People throwing up lists doesn't mean anything other than that if one of the people on that list flips scum, the person who pushed that list simply might not be on the same faction as whoever just got outted.

 

[poutanko]

Btw. Is he usually more active?

Tbh I remember him playing like that when he was indie in shizunes RPG game

He's not really active usually but in some games he's more invested. Idk how to read him with certainty.

 

[Juan]

so, we got guilty results on platinum, right??

 

[Dr. White]

@Dr. White

I hope that @ works this time

Nope. I said I used all of my shots.

 

[Underworld Broker]

why wouldn't I be???????

I mean uuhh.. if you followed the day you may guess why

 

[Juan]

so, we got guilty results on platinum, right??

oh nvm it was the 4 players thingie

 

[Juan]

I mean uuhh.. if you followed the day you may guess why

yeah i went to sleep after that so

 

[Expo]

*because I didn't include the word lynch last time,

[Change Vote Lynch Dr. White]

 

[Hidden]

Even if someone does flip scum on Mel's list, I wouldn't put too much stock into it. Even if 2 people flip and they're from the same faction I wouldn't put much stock into it. It might just mean Mel is on the other scum faction.

I have a list and taking out who is pretty much confirmed town basically puts it down to a 50-50 shot or so of anyone else being scum.

If you take out: Wad, WPK, Ratchet, Mystic Serenade, Leeroy, Kvothe, Wild, Sworder, Pou, me (10)

you have: Tiger, White, A Optimistic, UB, Novase, Odd, Juan, Sharkskin, Nevan, Aizen, Okosan, Plat, Kira, Didi. Mel, Oreki (16)

If we figure there to be maybe 8 or 9 scum left, everyone on that bottom list has roughly a 50-50 shot of being scum.

People throwing up lists doesn't mean anything other than that if one of the people on that list flips scum, the person who pushed that list simply might not be on the same faction as whoever just got outted.

COO? (The people that can post at night aren't necessarily Town. In fact Okosan would expect there to probably be one other scum in it.)

 

[Expo]

I just assumed one indie, one scum, and 4 or 5 town would've been enough mechanically

It is possible though that one of the night posters is scum I guess. Someone else did say someone who can post at night hasn't been. So maybe it's them

 

[Didi]

I can vibe with Dr White lynch too I suppose

[Vote Lynch Dr White]

 

[Dr. White]

I just assumed one indie, one scum, and 4 or 5 town would've been enough mechanically

It is possible though that one of the night posters is scum I guess. Someone else did say someone who can post at night hasn't been. So maybe it's them

Yeah I mean there is no way only LG's lone faction is the only one that can post at night. It has to be balanced with at least two scum. Otherwise it's literally just a confirmed town mason group that can post publicly and has another lynch, which would be broken.

 

[Hidden]

I just assumed one indie, one scum, and 4 or 5 town would've been enough mechanically

It is possible though that one of the night posters is scum I guess. Someone else did say someone who can post at night hasn't been. So maybe it's them

Cooooooo! (If Leeroy is pro-town like Okosan believes that's essentially another person is the town pile, though. And 4-5 town & one scum seems a little iffy to Okosan)

 

[Wild]

no

Yes

 

[Dr. White]

I can vibe with Dr White lynch too I suppose

[Vote Lynch Dr White]

So I can't late train you again and knock you out of your scum squad. That's mean

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

[Vote lynch Dr. White]

Expo, don't expect too many actual traitors to be traitorous in-game. I suspect my role is simply a fail safe for something like Wad's ridiculousness. Outside the one shot, I have some utility, but not too much.

 

[Shark Skin]

Nope. I said I used all of my shots.

So you had a limited number of investigations? And did all of them yield role names or was it just a single one?

 

[Dr. White]

So you had a limited number of investigations? And did all of them yield role names or was it just a single one?

My ability was a 3 shot invest that gives me role name of my targets. I basically spy on them via teleportation.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Hmm...

 

[Dr. White]

[Vote lynch Dr. White]

Expo, don't expect too many actual traitors to be traitorous in-game. I suspect my role is simply a fail safe for something like Wad's ridiculousness. Outside the one shot, I have some utility, but not too much.

Did you ever get around to stating your win con?

 

[Underworld Broker]

Why did you target wad, tiger and leeroy?

 

[A Optimistic]

Even if someone does flip scum on Mel's list, I wouldn't put too much stock into it. Even if 2 people flip and they're from the same faction I wouldn't put much stock into it. It might just mean Mel is on the other scum faction.

I have a list and taking out who is pretty much confirmed town basically puts it down to a 50-50 shot or so of anyone else being scum.

If you take out: Wad, WPK, Ratchet, Mystic Serenade, Leeroy, Kvothe, Wild, Sworder, Pou, me (10)

you have: Tiger, White, A Optimistic, UB, Novase, Odd, Juan, Sharkskin, Nevan, Aizen, Okosan, Plat, Kira, Didi. Mel, Oreki (16)

If we figure there to be maybe 8 or 9 scum left, everyone on that bottom list has roughly a 50-50 shot of being scum.

People throwing up lists doesn't mean anything other than that if one of the people on that list flips scum, the person who pushed that list simply might not be on the same faction as whoever just got outted.

Agreed.

 

[Shark Skin]

@Expo Does the use of teleportation fit within the timeline of WoW that this game takes place in?

 

[Dr. White]

Why did you target wad, tiger and leeroy?

Wad's early behavior was very erratic. He abused the top poster stuff and went out of his way to basically "confirm" himself town off the bat by wasting an extremely powerful move (superkill), and then immediately used it again after the timestop. Seemed like he was posturing that way to skirt under that "confirmation". Tiger was because I struggle to read his detached style of play, and Leeroy because he usually scummy af but town barring last game (Faves) so he was a good target to get out of the way.

 

[Wild]

How is wad confirmed

 

[Shark Skin]

How is wad confirmed

Through a couple of rash actions during D1

 

[Didi]

So I can't late train you again and knock you out of your scum squad. That's mean

my townbuddies wouldn't let you

 

[Wild]

Through a couple of rash actions during D1

Not sold

 

[Tiger]

Even if someone does flip scum on Mel's list, I wouldn't put too much stock into it. Even if 2 people flip and they're from the same faction I wouldn't put much stock into it. It might just mean Mel is on the other scum faction.

I have a list and taking out who is pretty much confirmed town basically puts it down to a 50-50 shot or so of anyone else being scum.

If you take out: Wad, WPK, Ratchet, Mystic Serenade, Leeroy, Kvothe, Wild, Sworder, Pou, me (10)

you have: Tiger, White, A Optimistic, UB, Novase, Odd, Juan, Sharkskin, Nevan, Aizen, Okosan, Plat, Kira, Didi. Mel, Oreki (16)

If we figure there to be maybe 8 or 9 scum left, everyone on that bottom list has roughly a 50-50 shot of being scum.

People throwing up lists doesn't mean anything other than that if one of the people on that list flips scum, the person who pushed that list simply might not be on the same faction as whoever just got outted.

Take me and Oddjutsu off that second list until someone tries to counter us on our Miller claim. We're the only two to do so, and it would be extremely unlikely there's more Steamwheedle. Put us in a middle group if you like, and focus on the others for a better %.

Otherwise, spot on.

 

[Didi]

ay yo if we're gonna blindfire on the people in the second group I'd like to claim first so you better your chance of hitting scum

 

[Juan]

Take me and Oddjutsu off that second list until someone tries to counter us on our Miller claim. We're the only two to do so, and it would be extremely unlikely there's more Steamwheedle. Put us in a middle group if you like, and focus on the others for a better %.

Otherwise, spot on.

oh tiger, now that i've got you here.

what does you not having your daggers mean? are you trapped on the library, as you mentioned?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Did you ever get around to stating your win con?

A while back. I posted about that several hours ago.

 

[Expo]

@Expo Does the use of teleportation fit within the timeline of WoW that this game takes place in?

Unfortunately WoW has *too much* teleportation. Mages of the Kirin Tor (or any other faction) can teleport and create portals like it's nothing. Katrana Prestor would have the ability to teleport.

Many would have abilities that could fit into a similar idea with a slightly different flavor (which means someone could just lie about teleportation). Chromie can be in multiple places at once. Katrana Prestor can have multiple disguises. Balnazzar can disguise himself. Rogues can.. well.. be Rogues and spy on people.

But teleportation isn't a rare thing for sure.

How is wad confirmed

Someone (White, I think?) hinted at his role, Wad pseudo confirmed it (at least hinted at it strongly), and that role in particular is a good at. At least, for the setting that this game takes place in and for many years afterwards.

 

[Tiger]

oh tiger, now that i've got you here.

what does you not having your daggers mean? are you trapped on the library, as you mentioned?

Role hints.

Not ability-related.

Don't flirt with me out in the open, my dad's been posting recently!

 

[Tiger]

Also, I'm completely ok with Chromie being town or pro-town Indie as a hidden faction.

Not sure why vanilla players would have an issue with that.

 

[Juan]

Role hints.

Not ability-related.

Don't flirt with me out in the open, my dad's been posting recently!

okay, got you.

should have kept it, btw. i'm probably getting shot.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Yeah I mean there is no way only LG's lone faction is the only one that can post at night. It has to be balanced with at least two scum. Otherwise it's literally just a confirmed town mason group that can post publicly and has another lynch, which would be broken.

well there was LG...and DDL?
maybe even leeroy if he’s in fact indie

only other possibility is the the SC equivalent of DDL - balnazzar, who may very well in fact be among the remaining night lot

How is wad confirmed

im not
but really, technically, only like...2 people are

there’s a lot of indicators and actions of that suggest im town though

which is true, of course

 

[Dr. White]

ay yo if we're gonna blindfire on the people in the second group I'd like to claim first so you better your chance of hitting scum

Seem pretty lax on claiming in a game where mechanics are in place to cuck you for it. Not scared?

 

[Didi]

Seem pretty lax on claiming in a game where mechanics are in place to cuck you for it. Not scared?

I wasn't aware of that tbh


though I wouldn't be claiming per se, I'd just be vouched for as town

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

well there was LG...and DDL?
maybe even leeroy if he’s in fact indie

only other possibility is the the SC equivalent of DDL - balnazzar, who may very well in fact be among the remaining night lot



im not
but really, technically, only like...2 people are

there’s a lot of indicators and actions of that suggest im town though

which is true, of course

If you want to be technical, all my shit is in blue but I am in a faction by myself under the guise of another faction (not Forsaken). I have been under the impression I'm town this entire time.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

for the record i still have no idea who tiger is hinting at

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

for the record i still have no idea who tiger is hinting at

 

[Tiger]

If people gun for Chromie I'm finding my dagger and coming for them.

 

[Expo]

@is a I think I do

@Tiger I don't doubt Chromie, I just doubt the non-neutral wincon

 

[Expo]

@Tiger do you know for a fact that Odd is telling the truth about the miller claim?

 

[Kira Yagami]

@poutanko Stop spreading lies,Im actually getting titled by your dumbness this game.

I didnt defend white,All i said was that THAT particular quote sounded more like Juan than White,That does not mean i don't think white is none of the other scum members
Will u stop acting dense and stop twisting my words?



Ive no problem with a white lynch.
[Change Vote Lynch Dr. White]

 

[Shark Skin]

Unfortunately WoW has *too much* teleportation. Mages of the Kirin Tor (or any other faction) can teleport and create portals like it's nothing. Katrana Prestor would have the ability to teleport.

Many would have abilities that could fit into a similar idea with a slightly different flavor (which means someone could just lie about teleportation). Chromie can be in multiple places at once. Katrana Prestor can have multiple disguises. Balnazzar can disguise himself. Rogues can.. well.. be Rogues and spy on people.

But teleportation isn't a rare thing for sure.

Ok, got it. Did a quick skim of some WoW lore/info and maybe it was just the bit I read, but it sounded rarer than it actually is.

For the purpose of a mafia game I would think its a lot more limited though. The fact that both Katrana and Blanazzr can both disguise themselves is a bit troubling though.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

@is a I think I do

@Tiger I don't doubt Chromie, I just doubt the non-neutral wincon

It's pro-town as fuck.

@is a, I hate you so much right now.

 

[Expo]

It's rare in the sense that only the most powerful people in WoW can do it. But, we do have some of the most powerful people in WoW in this game lol.

Balnazzar usually disguises himself as one particular person, Saidan Dathrohan.

Technically, Katrana Prestor *is* her disguise. She's a black dragon. But her and her daddy were known to use other disguises as well. But that was her most infamous disguise.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

It's pro-town as fuck.

@is a, I hate you so much right now.

don’t blame me, blame urself for lying or blame Shizune for not making the role a true neutral indie which is what chromie is

there’s 0.0000000000 reason u should have town’s win condition because there is no reason u should be opposed to the anti town characters

that said it’s moot, because whether ur win con is town’s or just survive u are not really a threat but the fact that ur alleging it’s the former is headscratch worthy and thus results in the entertainment of tinfoils

 

[Dr. White]

Anyone else wanna join this terrible bandwagon before i drop my claim/ tell ya what’s up?

 

[Tiger]

@is a I think I do

@Tiger I don't doubt Chromie, I just doubt the non-neutral wincon

Nah Chromie is neutral up to a point of not siding with Alliance or Horde-- but when faced with true threats, she is 100% on the side of good even if Nozdormu doesn't care.

@Tiger do you know for a fact that Odd is telling the truth about the miller claim?

Nope. Just doubt I'm the only Steamwheedle.

And @is a I had to Google her too. I'm sure I'm only here cuz of who daddy dearest is. And he's all kinds of Town.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

don’t blame me, blame urself for lying or blame Shizune for not making the role a true neutral indie which is what chromie is

there’s 0.0000000000 reason u should have town’s win condition because there is no reason u should be opposed to the anti town characters

that said it’s moot, because whether ur win con is town’s or just survive u are not really a threat but the fact that ur alleging it’s the former is headscratch worthy and thus results in the entertainment of tinfoils

I'm chalking it up to balancing. It's all blue, it insinuates town. That Avalon lie detect coming through as truth should be indicative of this being true.

 

[Melodie]

Guess mafia really don't want Platinum lynched

 

[Expo]

Dr White, as annoying as it might be to claim, we have a list that's getting increasingly smaller and smaller. If you do claim, or at least fill us in on a little info, we can get that list down even smaller.

 

[Tiger]

Guess mafia really don't want Platinum lynched

Wonder what will happen during the night lynch in that case...

 

[novaselinenever]

What did I miss

 

[Tiger]

@Juan may as well use it. I certainly wasn't going to.