Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
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Tiger
Stripes > Solids
In this community, where at least one player won't show up for the game-- it's the hardest win-con we've seen.
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
Easiest win-con was "guess everyone's role" in a game where town decided to mass claim themselves to victory.
Dr. White
I'm a shapeshifter, at Poe's masquerade.
I'm sending this bullet right for your hightop cuckti.
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
Talking about a non-existant win-con, that's interesting
John Wayne
Well-Known Member
@Santi
Can't say too much this early but so far Oreki is coming off really town, but could also be really scum not entirely sure rn, but I'll be keeping my eyes open there.
Then there's WAD, he's up to something, pretty much admitted it by with how vague he was being there with all his blitz posting yet denying going for Kingdom of Azeroth faction bonus. Why would you deny going for that? It's a powerful town claim, very sus either way.
Can't say too much this early but so far Oreki is coming off really town, but could also be really scum not entirely sure rn, but I'll be keeping my eyes open there.
Then there's WAD, he's up to something, pretty much admitted it by with how vague he was being there with all his blitz posting yet denying going for Kingdom of Azeroth faction bonus. Why would you deny going for that? It's a powerful town claim, very sus either way.
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
alright anyone have a rundown?
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
why would wad claim in the literal first 12 hours of the game
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
yes, it's called read the game
Tiger
Stripes > Solids
Not to mention, if he's town, but not KoA-- claiming such could easily hurt him if scanned. And he's a well-known target that gets scanned often in mafia.
John Wayne
Well-Known Member
Bait mafia kills, fake claim town Immunity. There's a lot of opportunity there.
Dr. White
I'm a shapeshifter, at Poe's masquerade.
Whoa this is more aggressive then I’ve seen you play
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
and anyone jumping in the "oreki is obvious town" train is just 
yes, jumping on someone for very flimsy reasoning can show that that person is getting scum attention but let's look at the facts
> oreki came in acting like he was a newb
> his second post was claiming he was town with absolutely no need whatsoever when no one was paying attention to him
> he did an omgus on nevan (i skimmed the nevan argument, so can't really say much but i do remember him saying "so i suspect u bc u suspect me"
> was called out for lying
> went "teehe guess i can't fool you guys xD"
like, this seeming town to you people is beyond me lol
whatever the fuck happened to lynch all liars?
yes, jumping on someone for very flimsy reasoning can show that that person is getting scum attention but let's look at the facts
> oreki came in acting like he was a newb
> his second post was claiming he was town with absolutely no need whatsoever when no one was paying attention to him
> he did an omgus on nevan (i skimmed the nevan argument, so can't really say much but i do remember him saying "so i suspect u bc u suspect me"
> was called out for lying
> went "teehe guess i can't fool you guys xD"
like, this seeming town to you people is beyond me lol
whatever the fuck happened to lynch all liars?
John Wayne
Well-Known Member
Juan has been way more aggressive than usual since the start now that I think about it.
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
it's not even 17 pages and he was here like 6 hours ago, i expect people to be able to keep up on day fucking oneWhoa this is more aggressive then I’ve seen you play
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
and I'm a bit pissed off due to family issues so chalk it up to that ig
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
i don't see why he would bait mafia kills
is he bulletproof? why would he bait mafiakills??? this argument makes no sense unless you know his role or something like that
John Wayne
Well-Known Member
He might be bullet proof, there should be a few townies who are. Anyway my main point was the was self admittedly up to something.
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
I'd tend to agree with Juan. And honestly I'd think WAD would get targeted anyway just 'cuz.
Tiger
Stripes > Solids
This makes sense for "random townie #3", but not a high profile town leader on day 1.
If this game had generics and he was one, then yeah-- even I will make sure the mafia gets me. But in a RM game, nah. Not now.
Platinum
Peanut Enthusiast
This game is a whole lot of fluff, a whole lot of people tryharding, and people tryharding by pointing out the easy tryharding.
It will take a 200IQ genius to parse this bullshit.
The ideal thing first is to decide the person for the first event. I personally think it should be someone of prominence, or someone that gets mislynched every game. WPK or DDL or Is A for the former, LG and Melodie for the latter are my suggestions.
It will take a 200IQ genius to parse this bullshit.
The ideal thing first is to decide the person for the first event. I personally think it should be someone of prominence, or someone that gets mislynched every game. WPK or DDL or Is A for the former, LG and Melodie for the latter are my suggestions.
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
Sorry to hear that
I'm not good at juggling multiple games at once. I was only here to respond to anyone that pinged me.
While it is hard to say and at the risk of parroting others, with claiming town early, he wants either town to blow the investigation / lie detects on him and he knows hes immune or for mafia to go after him because he has an extremely strong town role with certain conditions to be met. The first one sounds more likely but I find it hard to read WAD. He usually has some plan in play and I certainly doubt he decides to do a truth meta now.
Juan
Bright as the Sun.
yeah uh
claiming town early is definitely not a good move in a role madness game unless you're a miller(in which case you say, i am a town miller).
wad has been playing this game for years, whatever excuse you guys come up with for why wad would claim is bound to be fucking wrong
and if wad had a strong role then he'd try to avoid giving attention to that so he doesn't get sniped.
claiming town early is definitely not a good move in a role madness game unless you're a miller(in which case you say, i am a town miller).
wad has been playing this game for years, whatever excuse you guys come up with for why wad would claim is bound to be fucking wrong
and if wad had a strong role then he'd try to avoid giving attention to that so he doesn't get sniped.
Platinum
Peanut Enthusiast
WAD will claim when its logical to do so.
In my Lovecraft game he immediately declared his survivor role because it was in his best interest.
In my Lovecraft game he immediately declared his survivor role because it was in his best interest.
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
WAD is an interesting point of discussion, because I keep getting flashbacks of one game where we ignored him blitz voting, and by the end it turned out he was mafia who gained vote power every time he voted.
I doubt such an ability exists in this setup, and Occam's Razor points to the faction bonus, but I can't help but to feel as if the faction bonus is a red herring and his actual scheme is when he started tagging a bunch of users.
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
If he wants to tank kills, would mean he's part of the Khaz Modan. But that's too simplistic.
Santi might be on the right path. Something like he pings people and if he gets them to respond, something would happen. That doesn't relate to his early town claim though.
Santi might be on the right path. Something like he pings people and if he gets them to respond, something would happen. That doesn't relate to his early town claim though.
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
IDK, depend on the action type I'm not sure there'd be much information to glean from targeting WPK, DDL, LG, or Melodie. At least not just yet. Maybe Is A, but I feel like that's the choice most people would go for anyway.
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
Should I put that theory to the test? I've already been tagged by him.
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
Also I might be overthinking shit again but: If you are a member of the Forsaken I would be very weary of revealing yourselves at night before the Scarlet Crusade gets taken down a notch. They could have incentives for their faction by faction killing you, and I'd think it smart not to give them that.
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
How would you put it to the test? I too have been tagged by him and I responded twice actually 
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
NVM, actually saw that you had replied to one of the posts where he tagged you. And nothing happened... at least so far.
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
Nothing that we see, at least. It could be something investigative.
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
For Warcraft noobs like @Underworld Broker The Scarlet Crusade are a bunch of Deus Vult'ing zealots with a really strong hard-on for purging the undead, so eliminating the Forsaken is likely: integral to their win-con or part of their power mechanic.
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
Went back and if I counted correctly he @Six different users. Interestingly I believe he also mentioned at least one other player by username without the @.
Shark Skin
The Heart[broken]
Damn, just tagged a rando. Good thing they haven't been active in a couple of years
Expo
Well-Known Member
[vote lynch is a]
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
I'm not sure I agree it points to the faction. By his own admission, WAD suggested Townies not in that faction would ramp up their post count to disguise the real members of the faction, so even if you don't believe it's scum motivated, I don't think there is any way to make a distinction between being on the faction and feigning being on the faction.
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
However for precisely that reason I'm not on board with any line of reasoning using that as justification for suspicion. It's a dead end imo, and not worth much consideration in terms of using it to figure out his alignment.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
damn i slept hard rip
some good posts tho
some good posts tho
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
So Oreki seems pretty clearly town.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
nova i know u stay low d1 but this is ridiculous 
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
see i could prolly spam to keep high post count but im not keen on artificially inflating it
Katsuargi
Dakka Dakka
This started? Neat.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
it’s quite pleasant to see Santi engaged for a change
good vibes from him tbh
good vibes from him tbh
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
i also feel like nevan’s interrogation line was forced
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
i also feel like the bird is probably town and actually is shook by the accuracy of the dice gods
Katsuargi
Dakka Dakka
It usually is.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
im a bit worried about leeroy atm because he has started to show a pattern as scum where he uses his ‘perpetually confused’ stigma as a ploy and plays on it even harder which is actually i feel crippling to his potential growth as a player because it is a completely disengaged posting style that only fosters a perceived lack of value in his continuing presence as a contributing factor in a game
basically @Leeroy Jenkins
read and interact with ppl more
basically @Leeroy Jenkins
read and interact with ppl more
Katsuargi
Dakka Dakka
Checking the mechanics, wouldn't it be technically best to shoot for lower post counts so your votes don't count against that one town faction in case of accidentally aiming a lynch at one?
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
@Katsuargi
i wonder why the community is so kind with you
even if you will balk and resist we should still be obligated to try and force you to claim
but why haven’t we punished you with a lynch in some time
i wonder why the community is so kind with you
even if you will balk and resist we should still be obligated to try and force you to claim
but why haven’t we punished you with a lynch in some time
Katsuargi
Dakka Dakka
Meta stuff probs. Statistically you'd be lynching a town far more than any other faction going that route, and hosts have pretty actively avoided putting me as mafia far more often than they've put me as mob.
I think I've been mafia, like, 3 times out of the dozens I've played? It's rare.
I think I've been mafia, like, 3 times out of the dozens I've played? It's rare.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
ur indie rate tho is thru the roof
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
Expo
Well-Known Member
Unless mafia saw that from the get-go and tried to intentionally inflate their post count to trick people
Platinum
Peanut Enthusiast
Shizune games break truth metas. Perhaps this time katsuargi will show us his true power level?
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
ur starting to learn but here’s the thing
i already said that in an earlier post
so there’s an inherent issue in this dichotomy because ur either not paying attention or you’re parroting because ur not present a unique or original point of view
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
see here
Katsuargi
Dakka Dakka
Right. But even if scum did that, that doesn't negate the fact that you still wouldn't be able to successfully vote for the town players with high post counts and would be able to successfully vote for the scum with high post counts.
shade0180
A shadow
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bastard
sure but that can be a bold bluff to call u know?
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
tell me something tho
what’s on or in ur mind
shade0180
A shadow
Actually I just started reading, I forgot to put this thread on my watch list so I'll be back in 30 or so minute.
Platinum making it seem like he’s gonna contribute unlike all the shitposters but then he fluff posts like the rest of us
Classic rookie mafia mistake
This will be an easy game mafia ain’t even trying to blend
Classic rookie mafia mistake
This will be an easy game mafia ain’t even trying to blend
Platinum
Peanut Enthusiast
Platinum making it seem like he’s gonna contribute unlike all the shitposters but then he fluff posts like the rest of us
Classic rookie mafia mistake
This will be an easy game mafia ain’t even trying to blend
Expecting effort from me day 1 is the true rookie mistake.
It's okay youngblood, i'll teach you too the ways of hope.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
the aloofiarchs of the >its just d1 order foster an environment where it’s considered socially acceptable to lurk, shitpost, fluff, blend, or just straight up inactifag and not contribute simply because there is no action precedence to open up a line of inquiry but that is completely dependent despondency in actuality
it’s 48 hours too so we might as well make the most of it, no?
the midway reveal and who u want there is a good starting and talking point for most I feel
it’s 48 hours too so we might as well make the most of it, no?
the midway reveal and who u want there is a good starting and talking point for most I feel
Platinum
Peanut Enthusiast
You literally posted 14 times on the last page. Not that I can explicitly blame you when the mechanics encourage fluff posting, but still mang.
I still stand by my suggestions on who to vote for.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
i do have some fluff but otherwise i believe i am making an earnest attempt to engage the players in this game 
spreading myself thin perhaps but otherwise trying to promote actual play
spreading myself thin perhaps but otherwise trying to promote actual play
Underworld Broker
4th Harbinger
I'm still thinking there may be smth scummy about your play
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Coo! (Alright Okosan's back let's see what's up)
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
I'm still thinking there may be smth scummy about your play
of course there may be
but do you want to operate on the basis that there must be?
methinks ur town this game btw
Platinum doubles down on suggesting the arbitrary lynching good players irregardless of their play instead of just the scummiest person in the phase
Brave move
Brave move
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Coooo? (To be fair Okosan doesn't necessarily disagree, but only if we don't have a clear target by the end of 24 hours.)Platinum doubles down on suggesting the arbitrary lynching good players irregardless of their play instead of just the scummiest person in the phase
Brave move
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
what constitutes a clear target for you
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
@Kira Yagami reads town on ISO so I believe
Platinum
Peanut Enthusiast
Oko > WPK
Melodie > Santi > Oreki > Leeroy
John Wayn > Oko
Is a > WPK
Cooler > LG
Nevan > Oreki
Tiger > WPK
Sworder > Oko
LG > WPK
Plat > DDL
UB > Oko
Dragomir > Leeroy
The votes so far unless i'm a retard.
Always scum Melodie with 3 vote changes, clearly petrified with choice when it comes to bandwagoning.
WPK and Oko are the two with the most so far
Only the finest of big brain plays from yours truly.
You are aware that we have an event at the end of the first half, right?
Melodie > Santi > Oreki > Leeroy
John Wayn > Oko
Is a > WPK
Cooler > LG
Nevan > Oreki
Tiger > WPK
Sworder > Oko
LG > WPK
Plat > DDL
UB > Oko
Dragomir > Leeroy
The votes so far unless i'm a retard.
Always scum Melodie with 3 vote changes, clearly petrified with choice when it comes to bandwagoning.
WPK and Oko are the two with the most so far
Platinum doubles down on suggesting the arbitrary lynching good players irregardless of their play instead of just the scummiest person in the phase
Brave move
Only the finest of big brain plays from yours truly.
You are aware that we have an event at the end of the first half, right?
Your 30 minutes are upActually I just started reading, I forgot to put this thread on my watch list so I'll be back in 30 or so minute.
Underworld Broker
4th Harbinger
of course there may be
but do you want to operate on the basis that there must be?
methinks ur town this game btw
I'm having a theory on why you = scum could make sense, but yah, I'll leave it at that for now, let's see how you continue playing
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Coo! COO! (A clear target just being anyone who we actually think is scummy. If we don't get any clear leads then yeah we should just grab a solid info lynch. Now it probably won't come to that, though.)