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top 6 active players all look townie to me. we dont kill activity. thats helping scum. both ratchet/tiffany were good and active players. whichever of them mafia killed is clearly an attemp to silence the game

if we wanna to hit a mid poster start from fang and below
clearly not the case if all that activity hasnt lead to a scum lynch .
Vote count

Ekko -
Worm Juice > Didi > Sin > Didi > Nat > Didi
Nat - Ekko > Didi
Sin - Worm Juice > Odd
Nessos - Odd > Didi > Odd
Badalight - Didi > Odd > Worm Juice > Badalight > Didi > Fang > Oddjutsu

Oddjutsu - 3
Didi - 2

@Oddjutsu (Sheogorath) was lynched!

tears its actually mad how many lynches now that have didi pinned but somehow we continue to avoid it.
odd was out of left field and wasnt trying to blend in .
 
I do not see Santi contributing a lot today. Your defense of him is noted.
But both Fang and Didi have said that Santi is most likely town.

I know mechanic clears aren't sure fire in this game, but wouldn't you want to put some stock into it.

Btw, I completely forgot who you're replying to here in my catch up lel.

I am planning to add WPK :bloblick
Good choice.

Okay so the Worm Juice, Melkor, SoulKiller team is pretty much confirmed at this point, thx babes

Probably throw Ekko in the mix as well

Wonder why they have it out for me right now, maybe mafia learned my role?? 👀
You could at least reply to the case from SoulKiller on you lol. You just dismissed it completely and OMGUS'd.

clearly not the case if all that activity hasnt lead to a scum lynch .

tears its actually mad how many lynches now that have didi pinned but somehow we continue to avoid it.
odd was out of left field and wasnt trying to blend in .
Aren't you tunneling a bit much on Didi, Lanji?

Who else on your radar?
 
I do not see Santi contributing a lot today. Your defense of him is noted.
Okay, so this was in reply to Soul. Just Soul.

LM, if you kept up with the game, then you'd know that Soul has been one of the front runners in getting Santi executed. Even today, he had a few good points about wanting Santi executed. Noting him for defending Santi is a bit of a misinterpretation, not gonna lie.
 
please execute santi I cannot handle this
This was what Soul replied to ^ with the below response:
Why? He is now active and offering reads. Isn't he actually one of the more active guys in D3?
If you wanted to execute him it made sense in D2, not now.
And this is what LM noted as a defense of Santi.

I mean, if you're scum reading Bada, @Lord Melkor , then do you think Bada would want to execute Santi and then Soul, whom you're noting for defending Santi for some reason, would openly disagree with it?

By your reads you would have to think Bada and Soul are scum mates. Is that right? 'Cause I just don't see it.
 
But both Fang and Didi have said that Santi is most likely town.

I know mechanic clears aren't sure fire in this game, but wouldn't you want to put some stock into it.

Btw, I completely forgot who you're replying to here in my catch up lel.


Good choice.


You could at least reply to the case from SoulKiller on you lol. You just dismissed it completely and OMGUS'd.


Aren't you tunneling a bit much on Didi, Lanji?

Who else on your radar?
at this point I dont care cause it provides information on voters
ekko and badalight can go too.
 
I'll be completely honest, I just don't have a read on Firestormer at all. Like null even on day 3.

I'll also confess, they have a posting style that I just inherently like so there might be some bias, but other than that, it's just a null read to me. The biggest point against them that I can remember is them saying Nessos is scum for having a night posting ability, but that again could just be because they've seen less games with that specific ability in town's hands.

But if anyone is a deep wolf here, my pick would be Firestormer.

Correct me if anyone has any differing reads and why.
 
But both Fang and Didi have said that Santi is most likely town.

I know mechanic clears aren't sure fire in this game, but wouldn't you want to put some stock into it.

Btw, I completely forgot who you're replying to here in my catch up lel.


Good choice.


You could at least reply to the case from SoulKiller on you lol. You just dismissed it completely and OMGUS'd.


Aren't you tunneling a bit much on Didi, Lanjih?

Who else on your radar?

Yes, i have taken Fang and Didi vouching for Santi into account when i caught with the thread, this is why i moved my execute vote from Santi.

I just hope Santi is not a Godfather.
 
This was what Soul replied to ^ with the below response:

And this is what LM noted as a defense of Santi.

I mean, if you're scum reading Bada, @Lord Melkor , then do you think Bada would want to execute Santi and then Soul, whom you're noting for defending Santi for some reason, would openly disagree with it?

By your reads you would have to think Bada and Soul are scum mates. Is that right? 'Cause I just don't see it.

I have a stronger scum read on Bada, Soul is null for now.

But why would teammates agree with each other all the time in the thread? It makes it easier to connect them.
 
I'll be completely honest, I just don't have a read on Firestormer at all. Like null even on day 3.

I'll also confess, they have a posting style that I just inherently like so there might be some bias, but other than that, it's just a null read to me. The biggest point against them that I can remember is them saying Nessos is scum for having a night posting ability, but that again could just be because they've seen less games with that specific ability in town's hands.

But if anyone is a deep wolf here, my pick would be Firestormer.

Correct me if anyone has any differing reads and why.
honestly they are one of the few players I town-read atm
big reason for that being our reads sort of intersecting.

Ekko is my main suspicion in that group at the moment, with Badalight as a second. I feel like Sin was the only one of any help in that meeting. If Nessos weren't the one with that specific role I'd be sussing them too, but I'm trying to put that aside.

I don't really understand why Ekko was painting Didi as a townread but then voting him when Worm Juice came up again, I do feel like they could be partners at this point. This is why we needed her to be lynched.

But I guess this is not important now since that role info is out.
 
I'll be completely honest, I just don't have a read on Firestormer at all. Like null even on day 3.

I'll also confess, they have a posting style that I just inherently like so there might be some bias, but other than that, it's just a null read to me. The biggest point against them that I can remember is them saying Nessos is scum for having a night posting ability, but that again could just be because they've seen less games with that specific ability in town's hands.

But if anyone is a deep wolf here, my pick would be Firestormer.

Correct me if anyone has any differing reads and why.
The night posting ability is the only reason I don't suspect Nessos atm lol, I think you might have read me joking that I'd lynch any of the night posters if they were vulnerable as like an actual threat rather than just a remark on how they kept focusing on game 2 over game 1.

But I am happy to have some discussion on this, if you want anything from me I'm open to it
 
Xadlin said there was skoom among the 3 players he tried to role block, and they were the ones we were already sussing yet ya guys lynched outta those 3

The lynch should've been from these 3 and Worm Juice has been up on platform since D1.
With regards to this, are we confident that Xadlin knew what he was talking about? I can't see any reference to a cop checker or something like that in his role when he was lynched, it seemed like he chose to rolecrush and it got bounced back on him regardless of alignment. But I might be missing something in that role I guess.

I'm voting for Worm Juice so I'm not gonna argue against that point though. I targeted Iwandesu last night and it didn't bounce back on me, for what it's worth.
 
You're not going to threaten me, ya hoodlum.

Try being less cryptic and I might be willing to share information on a mutual basis.

Who the hell are you, anyways? Am I supposed to know you're town?
i have mechanical evidence at u being scum. ur either gna claim or hang. did u start a chat with fang or not. answer
 
Let's look at another individual I thought was scummy coming out of NP2.




This gentlemen SinRaven, he definitely ravened his way through that NP. I want to point out that you kept repeating yourself alot regarding people who voted plat apparently did it to protect a player. I found it odd, why would a scum vote a player so he can be in the lynching rope next DP? But I find it more weird that you automatically assume that people who voted for plat, voted specifically to only save someone and focused more so on that someone being worm than any other player in that wagon. Easy way to stamp a player as scummy. 'Oh he voted for this guy, he must of been wanting to save the other players in the other wagon.' I like how that is your first thought process regarding such situation. Instead of having a broader perspective which by the way. You should have as town, your line of thinking is very linear and is geared toward. 'How can I make a simple vote look scummy and having agenda behind it.'. I think you would be surprised Raven, but townies don't need an agenda, they do what they feel is right at the given situation. Utilizing my vote to be meaningful for town, it's the least I can do since I was not available that DP.

Plus, in this lynching format system, not voting for a player is more scummy than voting the player. So who truly is the scum here? Let me remind you that you voted for Melodie in DP1.... Effectively saving yourself from the lynch ropes. Like why even vote for Melodie out of everyone else? You seen how things developed and abstained of voting for either plat, didi, or worm. That's fishy don't you think?

Furthermore, You went ahead this NP and voted for Worm. But then moved your vote to Odd because? weren't you calling me and LM scummy because we voted for Plat to save worm? if what you stated is something you truly believe in. Then shouldn't worm be scum here? but you switched to odd because?



You made this post, so clearly you had no opinion regarding the guy, yet you still voted for him and moved away from Worm.







You even made another post insisting that you want worm lynched. But in the very next post you magically okay with Odd being lynched? You were even aware that his lynch is not valuable at all. Where the posts about wanting to vote for Worm was just for show? Wouldn't voting worm would of gave you better idea regarding my slot as well since you scum read me for apparently trying to protect him by voting plat? or was that was for show as well and you actually don't care about resolving me at all. Mislynch and misdirection seems to be your goal here. You don't really care about solving the game at all.


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I hereby sentence you to death. For being a filthy scum.


Vote Lynch: SinRaven
honestly one i can get behind rather than worm
To be fair, no one has really been helping town much. Night lynch is the only way to get rid of people not on the main wagon so it's a pretty useful resource.

What do you think of Iwan and JW. Iwan was one of my reads last night and JW has caught my attention just now.

these are just inactive players
 
??
definitely used to be his scum meta back in my day

maybe things have changed
but random defense of iwandesu noted

Bruh okay so Iwan ain't doing shit rn, either he's scum laying super low or he's a useless townie. That's fine and all, I even agree with the notion he should go.

I was just pointing out your reasoning for going after him was a bit flawed. Iwan's meta is to spam tons of replies way later, and generate a lot of activity that way. He does this regardless of alignment.

The fact he isnt posting at all means he's probably not playing at all.
 
Okay so the Worm Juice, Melkor, SoulKiller team is pretty much confirmed at this point, thx babes

Probably throw Ekko in the mix as well

Wonder why they have it out for me right now, maybe mafia learned my role?? 👀
tears; tldr just about everyone who suspects you
personally agree with soul
felt the effort to push for worm juice last night was lacking and the moment the odd lynch presented itself , you grabbed it.
 
I literally asked if we were certain that said ability would show up, which Baraxio said he had checked and it does. By the way, you don't get to use Baraxio asking this (as you did just above this quote) as a line of questioning and then demand that everyone should have done exactly that - it's inconsistent.
I was talking about checking with the host. Which is the first thing I run to go do any time there’s a mechanical puzzle to be solved. Also I saw you say it wasn’t watertight lol. I was using slight hyperbole. Everyone but you and Ekko were fine either not talking about it or taking it and running with it. Ekko is just the one who went and got clarification.

And why was this important to respond to?
Because I felt like it to say hi.

On the subject I’m not sure why you’d think I’m indie at worst. I don’t see why I couldn’t be scum at worst still if I’m not exclusively town.

He literally did this, though. It's the matter of which Night it happens to be processed in.
Clarifying the night is a pretty important detail when it makes all the difference lol.

Hi queen, I see that you are upset over my vote for you. Sorry to say but I don't feel bad or regret my vote at all? Like obviously I'm going to switch it now, but at the time of my vote it was a watcher role saying they asked the host for confirmation that the kill action happened that night and everyone else was accounted for, so I voted you and also pressed Didi on his actions, as I was working on the belief one of you two may be the killer. I'm not sure why I would be expected to assume the host misunderstood Baroxio's question and I wasn't going to ask for clarification as I believed Baroxio's posts (and still do tbh).
But all of those justifications said (and you may be town and it may be the truth), from my POV it looks like the kind of vote I’d expect Mafia to throw down when they’re fed what looks like a freebie on bad mechanics (or misleading mechanics). Especially looks bad if Didi or Worm (especially Worm lol) flip scum bc it meant I was a free “out” there to get away from a teammate for a bit.

Now, to respond to the other part: what? I have a completely different perception of how that phase went down I guess. In my eyes Ekko seemed to be fine voting for Worm Juice, but decided not to because he didn't trust Sin and as such lynched Didi instead, and now is saying he thinks Sin was trying to bus his partner Worm Juice. Which makes his vote switch nonsensical in my eyes, and in my opinion that lynch would've happened had he kept his vote on Worm Juice or switched back to it when Sin was still asking other people to vote her after Ekko's vote switch. I don't think Ekko was a positive contribution to town in the slightest during that night, but I think you have a completely different read on how the phase went down to what I do.
I took him saying that Sin was bussing Worm as a thought that solidified after the night lynch went down (which is where I got red flags from). Didn’t notice him saying it at the time. I remember him being suspicious of Sin but don’t remember him ever indicating that was having an influence on his thoughts on a Worm lynch.

I think Ekko/everyone there has some blame for why the lynch didn’t go to Worm, but I disagree that you look at it and say he’s the reason it didn’t happen over the rest.
 
On the subject I’m not sure why you’d think I’m indie at worst. I don’t see why I couldn’t be scum at worst still if I’m not exclusively town.
Your truth tell. You could maintain that you were genuine and honest if you are an indie that can work with the Town, not so, if you're Scum.
 
Your truth tell. You could maintain that you were genuine and honest if you are an indie that can work with the Town, not so, if you're Scum.
That’s what I assumed but I straight up promised to be town specifically. So I’d still be lying.

I guess it would be a much lesser lie if I was a benign indie since it wouldn’t hurt anyone,
but there’s really no reason for me not to just promise to be benign indie instead of town in that scenario.
 
But all of those justifications said (and you may be town and it may be the truth), from my POV it looks like the kind of vote I’d expect Mafia to throw down when they’re fed what looks like a freebie on bad mechanics (or misleading mechanics). Especially looks bad if Didi or Worm (especially Worm lol) flip scum bc it meant I was a free “out” there to get away from a teammate for a bit.


I took him saying that Sin was bussing Worm as a thought that solidified after the night lynch went down (which is where I got red flags from). Didn’t notice him saying it at the time. I remember him being suspicious of Sin but don’t remember him ever indicating that was having an influence on his thoughts on a Worm lynch.

I think Ekko/everyone there has some blame for why the lynch didn’t go to Worm, but I disagree that you look at it and say he’s the reason it didn’t happen over the rest.
Then target me for it idc, I believed the posts that were made and thought you were caught committing a kill, it happens. We grow and we move forward

I still maintain that opinion on Ekko's play last round, and I'm not sure how you can "disagree" that I view it a certain way. We're not going to agree on that part, but I should ask: what is your opinion on Ekko at this stage?
 
That’s what I assumed but I straight up promised to be town specifically. So I’d still be lying.

I guess it would be a much lesser lie if I was a benign indie since it wouldn’t hurt anyone,
but there’s really no reason for me not to just promise to be benign indie instead of town in that scenario.
There is, an indie claim likely goes down worse than a town one. Even if you did say Town, being a non-hostile indie would allow you to maintain that you kept to the spirit of your promise if not the letter. I think we've discussed this point enough now, ya?
 
@Firestormer i dont trust sin so i have no reason to stay in a wagon he is happily joining, specially with nat opposing it. i dont think the worm wagon was gna reach 3 at night so i was open to compromise on something else, even didi who was initially a town read of mine. looks like it was between scum/scum until 3 of them decided to pivot on odd. i also thought odd was null/scum so did not find the reason to strongly oppose it despite knowing its not optimal. i said we r basically using the night lynch as a vig shot if we go with odd and with odd flipping town im pretty sure sin is just scum that was trying to bus worm first and preflipping her scum but decided to pivot elsewhere when the opportunity came. im at sin/worm/didi all 3 being scum rn and those r the 3 i tried lynching last night if u see my votes. i just needed more confidence to push it through. u can blame me for lack of confidence but its not like i was sure they were scum and not like odd was a town read of mine so..
 
So are you just Scum?

Fang has said Santi neighboured him. Unless you neighboured him and Santi together, you can assume Santi did so by virtue of Fang saying he did. So your question to Santi is busywork.
i didnt think of it this way
why r they being so secretive about it then, idk what fang is doing or if its a lie or not. i wanna hear it from santi.
 
jw are you actually going to post reads and engage with the thread or are all your contributions going to be one-liners that have fuck all to do with what is being discussed

What you wanna hear some boring ass talk about how WJ and Sinraven are obviously scum?

Cause I could totally copy paste every pther guy who zero effort tosses reads into the status quou.

But sure you want me to join your silly circle dance where you all get nothing down, I'm honestly half expecting WJ to flip Town just because of how hard Scum is outplaying us here.
 
i didnt think of it this way
why r they being so secretive about it then, idk what fang is doing or if its a lie or not. i wanna hear it from santi.
Really. You are shown quotes where Fang explicitly states Santi neighboured him, and you refute them on the basis that it wasn't Santi himself saying so, and then when I point out that Fang has confirmed Santi did so, you tell me you didn't think of it like that.

What am I supposed to do with this? To make it worse, you claimed to have mech info against Santi here. Was that a lie?
 
What you wanna hear some boring ass talk about how WJ and Sinraven are obviously scum?

Cause I could totally copy paste every pther guy who zero effort tosses reads into the status quou.

But sure you want me to join your silly circle dance where you all get nothing down, I'm honestly half expecting WJ to flip Town just because of how hard Scum is outplaying us here.
Well Worm Juice is a policy lynch in part so I wouldn't be exactly shocked either.
 
Really. You are shown quotes where Fang explicitly states Santi neighboured him, and you refute them on the basis that it wasn't Santi himself saying so, and then when I point out that Fang has confirmed Santi did so, you tell me you didn't think of it like that.

What am I supposed to do with this? To make it worse, you claimed to have mech info against Santi here. Was that a lie?
if im gna take fang's words for it then santi is literally outed and must go today
 
@Firestormer i dont trust sin so i have no reason to stay in a wagon he is happily joining, specially with nat opposing it. i dont think the worm wagon was gna reach 3 at night so i was open to compromise on something else, even didi who was initially a town read of mine. looks like it was between scum/scum until 3 of them decided to pivot on odd. i also thought odd was null/scum so did not find the reason to strongly oppose it despite knowing its not optimal. i said we r basically using the night lynch as a vig shot if we go with odd and with odd flipping town im pretty sure sin is just scum that was trying to bus worm first and preflipping her scum but decided to pivot elsewhere when the opportunity came. im at sin/worm/didi all 3 being scum rn and those r the 3 i tried lynching last night if u see my votes. i just needed more confidence to push it through. u can blame me for lack of confidence but its not like i was sure they were scum and not like odd was a town read of mine so..
This is a better answer, thanks. I still don't feel great about the plays last phase, but I like this answer and I'm willing to back off for now

What is your opinion on Badalight then? You mentioned "looks like it was between scum/scum until 3 of them decided to pivot on odd" so do you think he was involved in this, or it was unrelated for him? Sorry if you've already answered this, I may have missed it but I haven't noticed him on your scum lists
 
Oh that's all I get okay thanks lol
he kind of already stated why he did in his first post this dp
honestly when prof feels that strongly opposed to people who voted him up
he is most likely town .
Alright the PR is coming off. It’s not conducive to playing the game and I’ve got a chip on my shoulder after game throwing in another game.

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If Worm Juice turns out scum come back to this ^

He was into WJ all night hard and then started the Odd lynch instead of a Worm lynch for reasons I don’t understand while still going after Worm the most with his vote sitting on Odd.

I got this message btw so can confirm ^



Why did you ask them which night it would show up?


Quoted these votes because every one of you is on my shit list POE for an opportunistic pile on. Apparently no one but Ekko thought it was even worth checking with host how that ability would interact with a watch. Worms obviously looks awful but I think Firestarter’s sticks out too. And some have seemingly chosen to ignore that Ekko has entered into the thread with evidence that the super killer wouldn’t be seen tonight (as rated agreed by the host) and still have no comment on that to second guess your votes.

If the main candidates before this (Didi and Worm stand out) flip scum then I feel pretty good about some of you being scum taking an opportunity here to save a teammate.



I am town.

You place the blame there on Ekko or the entire night chat? Ekko was trying to vote Didi until late in the lynch.

On a side note you also say you think Sin was the most helpful there but he was the one most responsible for getting the Odd lynch going. Nessos pushed him first and wanted it but was actually following Sin when it came time to actually throw votes down. So why was Sin the most helpful to you?


You either didn’t read well or are fabricating this. But I’ve seen things today that indicate it’s probably just the former. Ekko was not the one pushing the Odd lynch.

I guess this post is invisible to most of you?

Blasphemy. I am town.
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Reminder that with Xaldin claimed his role crush was sent back by one of Worm/Iwan/Melkor.

Scum reading Worm/Iwan there. Melkor has an innocent result on him.

Town reading Charlie now starting today. Full on town reading Ekko from his soft lean before.

I think Braxio is probably town for the information he came in here with. I think not clarifying that he’d see the super killer is bad but probably not scum when someone can easily correct him. Don’t know wtf he’s doing ignoring Ekko clearing things up there though. He’s my best voter. The rest of them can honestly burn lol.
 
You could at least reply to the case from SoulKiller on you lol. You just dismissed it completely and OMGUS'd.
I was busy at work lol. I consider SoulKiller's suspicion on me an OMGUS, not the other way around.

I've stated a few times now that his and Melkor's votes D1 on Platinum were the most suspicious 'bandwagon'y votes that also looked the most like trying to save Worm Juice.

Guess what, Worm Juice is up for the lynch again and the same people are again trying to start a counterwagon. Hence why I said they're scumbuddies, it's almost too much of a coincidence.
 

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