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hammer said:
I took away your vote power because I thought you were scum, I did the other passive ability to see who would target me. it makes more sense to reveal info after you have info rather than have scum know and not target me. makes perfect sense.
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no mafia in his right mind targets u after that day 1 pal

no comment on the vote silence. u hit WPK too?
 
Ekkologix said:
disagree, because as town u just tell mafia that u arent immune to vote silence = give them the confidence to rely on vote silencing ur slot if they want to safely down the line
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Immunity to vote silence is very rarely ever a thing, so this isn't a worthwhile counterargument. If I remain silent about my silence I either 1) vote and screw up vote counts or 2) don't vote and get people hounding me for not voting.

It's anti-town to not tell town that you're vote silenced.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Immunity to vote silence is very rarely ever a thing, so this isn't a worthwhile counterargument. If I remain silent about my silence I either 1) vote and screw up vote counts or 2) don't vote and get people hounding me for not voting.

It's anti-town to not tell town that you're vote silenced.
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and mods will generally tell you, sorry shit didn't work.

unless it's Aries and you wont even know you died.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
You're right, I'm not. Which means I know there are miniscule odds of town roles that are immune to vote silence, and that letting mafia know I'm not immune hurts less than having town be informed that they're down a vote, and not sow confusion with vote counts/my lack of voting.
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sounds scummy to not tell town, I mean how does he know you are immune. that would be a very specific ability, so like we both said it hurts town more.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Immunity to vote silence is very rarely ever a thing, so this isn't a worthwhile counterargument. If I remain silent about my silence I either 1) vote and screw up vote counts or 2) don't vote and get people hounding me for not voting.

It's anti-town to not tell town that you're vote silenced.
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not really, we r playing favorites. the immunity does not have to be strictly against vote silence. could be against debuffs in general.

there r merits to claiming being vote silenced normally, but its not optimal here given the nature of the lynch mechanics this game, we are planning to have everyone we can get vote for the same wagon, majority style. wagons should not be close to the point where u being vote silenced risks being the lynch deciding factor.

aside from that, thoughts on the player vote silencing you?
 
Notes as I read:

-Fang saying an action was wasted on Lalisa, interesting.

-tinky winky trying to join the Didi wagon and also posting just enough to avoid the Execution makes him suspicious to me, and I hope he is able to provide a bit more this phase in terms of contributions since iirc his posts weren't really saying much either.

-agree with Rej's Nessos vote based on their heavy focus on Group 1 and seeming disinterest in scumhunting this group? Buttt they are not eligible for the vote so :/ Would like Nessos to vote in the majority this round though so it can be discussed more and they can start focusing on mafia in this game.

*flips past all the host banter*

-I don't really agree with getting votes early on one player being a necessity. It's good to get a bigger pile for future lynches but if we just pile them onto someone early and mark that as the lynch then no further pressure on other players will be taken seriously. Hell, pressure against anyone outside the vulnerable pile probably won't matter either because of the rules.

-Oh Baroxio said this too, cute!

-Xadlin claiming his abilities immediately... ok. Gonna need a bit more than that if possible, and the way that it is presented really doesn't help town at all, you're probably my preferred vote barring some changes.

-Juan "playing dumb" for an event everyone already assumed their role was involved in, live your truth.

-I am fine voting for Didi today, but @hammer can I ask why you are so adamant that it's him and that anyone who was against it needs to be pushed? Your posts yesterday made it seem like it was a bandwagon vote. Right now i am willing to vote him, Xadlin or Lord Melkor, but I want to hear more about your reasoning here.

ok guess there wasn't much discussed so far, though I guess it's hard to pressure too many people when only a fifth of us can be voted.
 
Firestormer said:
Notes as I read:


-I am fine voting for Didi today, but @hammer can I ask why you are so adamant that it's him and that anyone who was against it needs to be pushed? Your posts yesterday made it seem like it was a bandwagon vote. Right now i am willing to vote him, Xadlin or Lord Melkor, but I want to hear more about your reasoning here.

ok guess there wasn't much discussed so far, though I guess it's hard to pressure too many people when only a fifth of us can be voted.
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it's more so how mafia meta is on NF, I notice if there is one or two people on a mafia member the rest push really fucking hard a new wagon within 5 minutes. I played 10 years worth of mafia on NF and it always seems to be the same.
 
tinky winky said:
I wasnt listed for execution mate
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You were almost listed for execution, though.
didi wanted to execute me when he thought I was up for it tho
that and the fact there's zero reason to townread him.
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Cool.
Juan said:
odd you couldn't lynch me even if you sent every player a thousand dollars to vote for me
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He should still try to send that money, though. Feeling pretty poor now that I am dating.
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Bit theatrical here Soul, whereas you've been a bit stiff otherwise. Just fyi, if you're making a post for the purpose of say a lie detector, it should be worded as just "I am town."
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I am just really passionate about cleaning the filth.
 
hammer said:
sounds scummy to not tell town, I mean how does he know you are immune. that would be a very specific ability, so like we both said it hurts town more.
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hosts dont usually tell the user if it failed or not

WolfPrinceKiba said:
You're right, I'm not. Which means I know there are miniscule odds of town roles that are immune to vote silence, and that letting mafia know I'm not immune hurts less than having town be informed that they're down a vote, and not sow confusion with vote counts/my lack of voting.
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okay we'll revisit this at EoD if the wagons r close. not important now
can u tell me why r u voting didi?
 
Firestormer said:
-I am fine voting for Didi today, but @hammer can I ask why you are so adamant that it's him and that anyone who was against it needs to be pushed? Your posts yesterday made it seem like it was a bandwagon vote. Right now i am willing to vote him, Xadlin or Lord Melkor, but I want to hear more about your reasoning here.
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I am in this boat as well. Didi is being voted a lot but not many are actually listing any reasons.
Would like to hear more.

ok guess there wasn't much discussed so far, though I guess it's hard to pressure too many people when only a fifth of us can be voted.
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Yeah especially if there isn't that much movement
 
Firestormer said:
Notes as I read:

-Fang saying an action was wasted on Lalisa, interesting.

-tinky winky trying to join the Didi wagon and also posting just enough to avoid the Execution makes him suspicious to me, and I hope he is able to provide a bit more this phase in terms of contributions since iirc his posts weren't really saying much either.

-agree with Rej's Nessos vote based on their heavy focus on Group 1 and seeming disinterest in scumhunting this group? Buttt they are not eligible for the vote so :/ Would like Nessos to vote in the majority this round though so it can be discussed more and they can start focusing on mafia in this game.

*flips past all the host banter*

-I don't really agree with getting votes early on one player being a necessity. It's good to get a bigger pile for future lynches but if we just pile them onto someone early and mark that as the lynch then no further pressure on other players will be taken seriously. Hell, pressure against anyone outside the vulnerable pile probably won't matter either because of the rules.

-Oh Baroxio said this too, cute!

-Xadlin claiming his abilities immediately... ok. Gonna need a bit more than that if possible, and the way that it is presented really doesn't help town at all, you're probably my preferred vote barring some changes.

-Juan "playing dumb" for an event everyone already assumed their role was involved in, live your truth.

-I am fine voting for Didi today, but @hammer can I ask why you are so adamant that it's him and that anyone who was against it needs to be pushed? Your posts yesterday made it seem like it was a bandwagon vote. Right now i am willing to vote him, Xadlin or Lord Melkor, but I want to hear more about your reasoning here.

ok guess there wasn't much discussed so far, though I guess it's hard to pressure too many people when only a fifth of us can be voted.
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now can u stay in the thread and talk to us live

how u doing today
 
Ekkologix said:
i just asked for one
this is getting tiresome

can u reply to my question above about didi
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i for run run my games that way because that's how most oldfags do it. you are litterally fighting a losing battle, WPK said he got vote silenced because he knows his vote silenced was confirmed by the host, that's just how most of us play.

what didi question.
 
Ekkologix said:
not really, we r playing favorites. the immunity does not have to be strictly against vote silence. could be against debuffs in general.

there r merits to claiming being vote silenced normally, but its not optimal here given the nature of the lynch mechanics this game, we are planning to have everyone we can get vote for the same wagon, majority style. wagons should not be close to the point where u being vote silenced risks being the lynch deciding factor.

aside from that, thoughts on the player vote silencing you?
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It's optimal to have a large wagon, but such was not the case yesterday so not guarantees there. Also I'm currently having a superkill aimed my way, so even less reason to care about keeping anything hidden.

My being vote silenced just makes me want Didi dead more as he has the most reason to silence me, which could be a manipulation tactic by mafia to have me lead a wagon onto town!Didi, though kind of counterproductive since the one they'd be expecting to lead the charge has no actual say.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
My being vote silenced just makes me want Didi dead more as he has the most reason to silence me, which could be a manipulation tactic by mafia to have me lead a wagon onto town!Didi, though kind of counterproductive since the one they'd be expecting to lead the charge has no actual say.
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didi was not invovled. it would be weird for me as didi scum mate to vote silence you, admit it, and want didi lynched.
 
Soul said:
I am in this boat as well. Didi is being voted a lot but not many are actually listing any reasons.
Would like to hear more.


Yeah especially if there isn't that much movement
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What are your opinions on the options today? I've noticed you questioned the Didi train a lot but may have missed if you've offered any feelings on the others up for the vote. If not a Didi vote, who do you personally want to vote for?
 
hammer said:
i for run run my games that way because that's how most oldfags do it. you are litterally fighting a losing battle, WPK said he got vote silenced because he knows his vote silenced was confirmed by the host, that's just how most of us play.
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i dont care how u run ur games, i asked for u to name me one host that does the same, and u failed to do so.
what WPK said doesnt matter to me, and shouldnt matter to you either if ur town. u vote silenced him, meaning u should be leaning scum on him. why r u taking weight into anything he says?

knowing that ur vote is silenced is confirmed by the host this game. its mentioned in the OP. my question is do YOU as the user know that the target of ur ability was successfully vote silenced or not. u have been twisting my posts so much.

hammer said:
what didi question.
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in ur own words, why r u voting him
 
hammer said:
90% of been playing for nearly a decade/ most hosts I have done tell you if you fail
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I think it's important to clarify there's a difference between your ability failing, and your ability having no effect.

Actual ability failure is rare, but should always be notified.

Your ability can succeed but have no effect, in which case no, most hosts don't tell you whether the ability actually had an effect or not.
 
Ekkologix said:
i dont care how u run ur games, i asked for u to name me one host that does the same, and u failed to do so.
what WPK said doesnt matter to me, and shouldnt matter to you either if ur town. u vote silenced him, meaning u should be leaning scum on him. why r u taking weight into anything he says?

knowing that ur vote is silenced is confirmed by the host this game. its mentioned in the OP. my question is do YOU as the user know that the target of ur ability was successfully vote silenced or not. u have been twisting my posts so much.


in ur own words, why r u voting him
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how about at this point, you shut the fuck up about these rules. I dont give a shit if you believe me. jsut because you don't fucking like my answers dosen't mean I didn't answer? okay? goodbye and fuck off.
 
Shizune said:
I think it's important to clarify there's a difference between your ability failing, and your ability having no effect.

Actual ability failure is rare, but should always be notified.

Your ability can succeed but have no effect, in which case no, most hosts don't tell you whether the ability actually had an effect or not.
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right, i have had this happen if it's a passive ability vs roleblock the note is different.
 
Ekkologix said:
did ur team target WPK to set this up :hm
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Badalight can be somewhat of an evil mastermind behind the scenes, it's within the realm of reason that Didi is being set up. Though over time I've come to see that mafia action selection is usually more straightforward than people think, especially early on. You go back to the tinfoil after figuring out if the obvious isn't the reason, at least while you can still afford to do so.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
It's optimal to have a large wagon, but such was not the case yesterday so not guarantees there. Also I'm currently having a superkill aimed my way, so even less reason to care about keeping anything hidden.

My being vote silenced just makes me want Didi dead more as he has the most reason to silence me, which could be a manipulation tactic by mafia to have me lead a wagon onto town!Didi, though kind of counterproductive since the one they'd be expecting to lead the charge has no actual say.
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why does didi resort to vote silencing u like couple hours into the day, instead of by EoD? there is no clear indication yet of where everyone's votes will be by EoD. wiping out a vote silence before attempting to atleast defend himself from the wagon is a strange tactic.

also, thoughts on this:
Badalight said:
I actually think maybe we were right on Didi. WPK who started the wagon got targeted hard. Also wagon switching last minute was very strange. Unless it's a town vig that tried to kill WPK.
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Ekkologix said:
why does didi resort to vote silencing u like couple hours into the day, instead of by EoD? there is no clear indication yet of where everyone's votes will be by EoD. wiping out a vote silence before attempting to atleast defend himself from the wagon is a strange tactic.

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I was thinking the vote silence was a night action I got informed of late, though even then Didi choosing to silence me early on in a phase wouldn't be all that odd because he knows how persistent I can be. In a game a few years ago I sussed him d1, then continued to hound him four the next five day phases after, even in death (I had a ghost role)

I already gave my response to the Bada post.
 
@Natalija and @WolfPrinceKiba were marked for death! They will both be superkilled tonight. However, other players can visit them tonight disperse to the damage out among themselves and save them. Beware that those of you who choose to help them may take some damage in the process!

the wording on this is confusing, will they die by EoD or?
 
Shizune said:
@Ratchet (The Winslow) and @Lalisa (Aviva Drescher) died tonight!





@Natalija and @WolfPrinceKiba were marked for death! They will both be superkilled tonight. However, other players can visit them tonight disperse to the damage out among themselves and save them. Beware that those of you who choose to help them may take some damage in the process!

@SinRaven and @Yo Tan Wa were booby trapped. Anyone who visits them tonight will be role crushed for the next cycle.

Do not post yet​
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This is worrysome i wasn't expecting any deaths tonight with the 3 durability thing in the game. 2 kills and 2 marked with Super kills? 👀

Also hoping this booby trap thing don't affect me directly. I might not be targeted tonight so should be townie ability.
 
Badalight said:
Like, you would wait until Didi dies and flips then, THEN you'd have people go after WPK for pushing a lynch on a townie. Superkilling him only makes sense if they are afraid of him.
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WPK is still alive. not only that, but the superkill is publicly announced, giving him more reasons to push for a didi lynch.

this wasn't ur initial thought
u said WPK who started the wagon got targeted hard. did u imply that he was killed here?
 
Firestormer said:
What are your opinions on the options today? I've noticed you questioned the Didi train a lot but may have missed if you've offered any feelings on the others up for the vote. If not a Didi vote, who do you personally want to vote for?
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I did make a post earlier today in page 47 (here)
Basically don't have a clear read but it doesn't matter too much yet since I'll have actual free time in a few hours. Xad looks really desperate to clear his name in Day 2 which seems pretty insane, leaning towards him. Didi seemed clear to me since people were trying to lynch him based off his manner of typing (which seems about what he usually does), but the latest allegations against him have me wondering, which is why I am asking for more information about him.
Hero still seems solid, don't have much on Melkor/Lind yet and FakeSoul played a really weird Day 1, which has me wondering what is he plotting.

Basically this was my lynch order: Xad -> FakeSoul -> Didi -> Hero (Not enough info on Melkor or Link)
Right now Didi is looking a bit more suspicious to me.
 
Ekkologix said:
@Natalija and @WolfPrinceKiba were marked for death! They will both be superkilled tonight. However, other players can visit them tonight disperse to the damage out among themselves and save them. Beware that those of you who choose to help them may take some damage in the process!

the wording on this is confusing, will they die by EoD or?
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Its not confusing. They will die probably as soon as the night phase starts, seems clear-cut enough to me. The extra bit sounds like some kind of AoE or stacking effect, maybe trying to do a night action role crushes you or something to that.
 
@Ekkologix got caught up with things so missed answering you earlier on why I'm voting Didi. As said last phase, my initial ping was on the hedgy wording post, a pretty high accuracy scumtell. Then there seemed to be an effort to save Didi, with Rej's buddying up to me about my Worm Juice suspicion setting off alarm bells. I also dislike the Platinum lynch, when Worm Juice was the much better lynch if not Didi. Need to analyze that wagon formation later tonight, a lot of it happened while I was away and didn't have time to dig into it before last phase end.
 
Fang said:
Also maybe it puts me in the crosshairs but why is there such a strong bandwagon/train for pushing on Didi as the lynch? Did he vote on Plat?
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If I'm understanding it correctly it's because there were a lot of last minute vote changes, which resulted in Platinim (a townie) being lynched. Looks like those last minute vote changes were done to save Didi, who was up for a lynch most of D1.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Badalight can be somewhat of an evil mastermind behind the scenes, it's within the realm of reason that Didi is being set up. Though over time I've come to see that mafia action selection is usually more straightforward than people think, especially early on. You go back to the tinfoil after figuring out if the obvious isn't the reason, at least while you can still afford to do so.
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This is true. But unfortunately my being mafia in favorites streak has come to an end :(

WolfPrinceKiba said:
If Didi is town, it certainly does make more sense to just allow me to mislynch him, then mislynch me for having lead the charge
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This is what I am saying. Though, there is the possibility that by killing you they want town to think Didi is mafia resulting in a mislynch today.

Yo Tan Wa said:
This is worrysome i wasn't expecting any deaths tonight with the 3 durability thing in the game. 2 kills and 2 marked with Super kills? 👀

Also hoping this booby trap thing don't affect me directly. I might not be targeted tonight so should be townie ability.
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You being booby trapped makes it much more likely that you are town imo. Dunno why a town would booby trap you because that would imply they believe mafia would target you... which doesn't seem to make much sense. Alternatively, mafia might have thought that I (a townie <3) or another townie would target you because you had mild suspicion on you.

Then again, it's weird that they wouldn't choose some of the bigger targets, but perhaps that's because a lot of the people with heat on the are up for lynch today.

Ekkologix said:
WPK is still alive. not only that, but the superkill is publicly announced, giving him more reasons to push for a didi lynch.

this wasn't ur initial thought
u said WPK who started the wagon got targeted hard. did u imply that he was killed here?
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No but he was attempted to be killed. I guess it depends on if Mafia knew he wouldn't die right away or not.
 
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