Game Favorites '22 - THE FINALS (purple mafia wins!)

[Ratchet]

The thing is Ratchy, since this is SRM we dont exactly know the full extent of Sks abilities( I know he can redirect and rc and kill) and looking at Michs role she could superkill multiple people after she marked them so lets not gamble things here. I am hard to kill so thats 1 guaranteed alive guy the next day phase and they cant kill all of the rest in one night.

SK, and then the rest imo.

Not interested. He won't be able to solo the game from here and he will be dead within a cycle or two. If you believe he is the only purple left, his game is just about done.

 

[Ekkologix]

Im asking you if we should lynch TS instead of Sk here.

i dont care eitherway. i wud rather elimate the factional kill from purple first, but considering michele died last night im assuming purple is also hitting red at night.

unless a vig claims that mich kill ofc

 

[Ratchet]

If he could solo the game, he would have no reason to play yesterday like he did.

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

considering they lost 3 in one day, their best bet is to get us to yeet red obviously

why r u asking me this. i don't think anyone town reads TS here

@Traveling Swordsman we need your full claim today. character and everything

The message is fake. I also redirected to Draekke who is confirmed town because I thought he was scum.

 

[Fujitora]

My argument is very clear and simple. There is a greater chance of more than one red remaining in the game than there is of more than one purple. Once both are down to 1 member we can endgame so the optimal path is to cntinue to reduce the numbers of the larger faction.

NFC being death immune throws something of a spanner in this though, because there is the risk of the lynch essentially being voided. I don't think it's likely, and TS *could* be Town, so the risk is mislynching when we have scum on the table. In that respect, Soul being lynched today is reasonable. Fuji, your perspective on this I find concerning. You, if Town, should be aware now that they had role-copped you, and put you in a list with Red to get the Town to lynch Town, not Red, to thin Town numbers first and then focus on Red. If they are following the same idea here, then TS would be Town that we gamble on mislynching to eliminate NFC.

Except Mich flipped scum and had similar abilities to what last day phases message listed, also they had my role name correctly. Dont see a reason to mistrust it here.

 

[Ratchet]

i dont care eitherway. i wud rather elimate the factional kill from purple first, but considering michele died last night im assuming purple is also hitting red at night.

unless a vig claims that mich kill ofc

Yeah no.

When people capable of reasoning are here, please let me know so I can discuss this with them.

 

[Ratchet]

Except Mich flipped scum and had similar abilities to what last day phases message listed, also they had my role name correctly. Dont see a reason to mistrust it here.

The same message that said you were scum? You don't see a reason to mistrust it? Really now.

 

[Ekkologix]

My argument is very clear and simple. There is a greater chance of more than one red remaining in the game than there is of more than one purple. Once both are down to 1 member we can endgame so the optimal path is to cntinue to reduce the numbers of the larger faction.

NFC being death immune throws something of a spanner in this though, because there is the risk of the lynch essentially being voided. I don't think it's likely, and TS *could* be Town, so the risk is mislynching when we have scum on the table. In that respect, Soul being lynched today is reasonable. Fuji, your perspective on this I find concerning. You, if Town, should be aware now that they had role-copped you, and put you in a list with Red to get the Town to lynch Town, not Red, to thin Town numbers first and then focus on Red. If they are following the same idea here, then TS would be Town that we gamble on mislynching to eliminate NFC.

If you believe the message, we can lynch Soul.
Otherwise, NFC is the best lynch.

we can also do NFC first
then backup SK
then backup TS

in that order

or switch up SK and TS

we can do backups for the lynch in case it fails

 

[Fujitora]

If he could solo the game, he would have no reason to play yesterday like he did.

You mean stalling and maybe getting vigs to go for me ? I am mafias biggest thorn and they cannot get rid of me. That clown actually tried rcing me again and got hit by it again.

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Santi and Soul Killer claimed they will die tonight. I doubt purple only has 1 or 2 members left

 

[Fujitora]

The same message that said you were scum? You don't see a reason to mistrust it? Really now.

The message that has my flavor name in it. Dont twist my words

 

[Fujitora]

Not interested. He won't be able to solo the game from here and he will be dead within a cycle or two. If you believe he is the only purple left, his game is just about done.

Your opinion is noted.

 

[Fujitora]

we can also do NFC first
then backup SK
then backup TS

in that order

or switch up SK and TS

we can do backups for the lynch in case it fails

Is that how it works with kingmaker? @Shizune

 

[Ratchet]

As I have already explained, the message was likely informed by a rolecop.

 

[Fujitora]

Yeah no.

When people capable of reasoning are here, please let me know so I can discuss this with them.

Lmao.

 

[Ratchet]

we can also do NFC first
then backup SK
then backup TS

in that order

or switch up SK and TS

we can do backups for the lynch in case it fails

Not interested, do whatever.

 

[Ekkologix]

The message is fake. I also redirected to Draekke who is confirmed town because I thought he was scum.

this isnt enough. u need to full claim ur actions from game 1 to here. specially the actions u did here
kaido could send messages to 2 redacted names. its probably luffy and zoro. and in ur role and luffy's role seems u can talk to each other as well, so u could be claiming someone's else's actions easily, r claiming actions that your team obtained from red members who got executed

imma be real with u m8. this redirect from game 1 means nothing. it does not clear u in any way. i suggest you start full claiming asap

 

[Ekkologix]

Not interested, do whatever.

im here to discuss it if u wanna discuss it

on one hand i actually believe the message

the michele role was exactly the same, JW's flavor name was correct, and TS/owner/kaido roles are way too elaborate to be faked and make so much sense based on the info we have here

on another hand i want to eliminate purple factional kill

i could yeet TS here then soul next day

purple lost alot of kill power seeing the JW and iwan roles

 

[DrProfessor83]

NFC - Kaido

Durability: infinite

[Innate - The World’s Strongest Creature] - Immune to everything but execution.

[Innate - No King Rules Forever] - Two redacted teammates (would be Luffy and Zoro) know his abilities and they know his. If they both die then Kaido leaves the game.

[Active - Tactical - Den Den Mushi] - Can send a message to two redacted teammates each phase.

[Innate - The Beasts Pirates] - Knows the name of his son (this would match with the Kira info) but not his alignment.

[Active - Physical - Death Wish] - Redirect kills meant for a teammate to himself. If he is successful then he will mark them with [That felt great, do it again!]

[That felt great, do it again!] - Make the player redirect to Kaido if they use a killing ability. Consumed when triggers/expires after 2 cycles. If several killing abilities are used one will be randomly redirected.


[Two Shot Active - Magical - Kenbunshoku Haki] - At Night can use [Death Wish] on his entire team. Can’t use twice in a row. If alive for merge gets 2 more shots.

[One Shot Active - Physical - The marines couldn't do it, and neither can you!] - If Kaido is 1 of the top 3 voted players he Can straight up cancel the lynch that day.

 

[DrProfessor83]

we can also do NFC first
then backup SK
then backup TS

in that order

or switch up SK and TS

we can do backups for the lynch in case it fails

If the role cop is real we won’t have a lynch today .

 

[Fujitora]

Not interested, do whatever.

Alright ratchy tell us what you wanna do?

 

[Ekkologix]

Santi and Soul Killer claimed they will die tonight. I doubt purple only has 1 or 2 members left

well kill on soul was canceled all together after iwan died

 

[Ekkologix]

also santi never claimed hes dying tonight. ur making sht up now

full claim @Traveling Swordsman

 

[Ratchet]

You mean stalling and maybe getting vigs to go for me ? I am mafias biggest thorn and they cannot get rid of me. That clown actually tried rcing me again and got hit by it again.

How is this a real thought you have? You cannot seriously believe that SoulKiller can win the game, on his own, by getting a Vig to shoot you (over NFC/Karma/TS mind!) and stalling, what, 1 cycle? Do you believe Purple can win Day 6 with 1 alive? No. If Red have 4 alive though, maybe they could.

 

[Fujitora]

also santi never claimed hes dying tonight. ur making sht up now

Actually Santi claimed he was poisoned last day phase.

 

[Ekkologix]

Actually Santi claimed he was poisoned last day phase.

that doesnt mean hes dying tonight yeah

 

[Ratchet]

The message that has my flavor name in it. Dont twist my words

If you know something about the origin of that message then you need to claim it, because otherwise I have it written off as from Purple Mafia, based on their role cop results.

 

[Ratchet]

Is that how it works with kingmaker? @Shizune

This was explained yesterday. The King puts their lynches in order, and then it cycles through that order until the first viable lynch is found. They can list as many as they please.

 

[Ratchet]

Alright ratchy tell us what you wanna do?

Are you not reading my posts? I've said so from the start. But you/Ekko/Prof have no interest in listening to anyone here, so have at it, I can't do anything about it.

 

[青月光]

I'm already preparing my crowning ceremony

 

[Fujitora]

what, 1 cycle? Do you believe Purple can win Day 6 with 1 alive? No. If Red have 4 alive though, maybe they could.

Fine. Whats your plan?

 

[Fujitora]

Are you not reading my posts? I've said so from the start. But you/Ekko/Prof have no interest in listening to anyone here, so have at it, I can't do anything about it.

I read your post, you said if Nfc is lynch immune Sk if he is not Nfc then Ekko proposed to have Nfc first and Sk follows then TS third and you just refused.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Are you not reading my posts? I've said so from the start. But you/Ekko/Prof have no interest in listening to anyone here, so have at it, I can't do anything about it.

Want to gamble on an NFC no lynch? Bc you said to do that before we were told he stops it.

 

[Ratchet]

Fine. Whats your plan?

Probably lynch NFC here.

NFC, then Karma/SK, then SK/Karma, then TS, then Fuji. That should cover all the list and is a reasonable order.

Anyone that isn't in that list is fine for King, provided they can be trusted to follow said list.

 

[Ratchet]

Want to gamble on an NFC no lynch? Bc you said to do that before we were told he stops it.

See, literally talking to walls that don't want to read. Excercise in futility.

 

[Fujitora]

Anyone that isn't in that list is fine for King, provided they can be trusted to follow said list.

I am excluded from crowning anyways, prof becomes king then Ali or ekko then whoever wasnt voted between the two is my list.

 

[Ekkologix]

I'm already preparing my crowning ceremony

what's ur first command gonna be, king ali

 

[Ratchet]

I read your post, you said if Nfc is lynch immune Sk if he is not Nfc then Ekko proposed to have Nfc first and Sk follows then TS third and you just refused.

I didn't say I refused, again reading helps. I said I'm not interested in a discussion when it's just me talking to three walls.

 

[Fujitora]

I fee like we are misunderstanding each other here.

 

[DrProfessor83]

See, literally talking to walls that don't want to read. Excercise in futility.

Gambling on NFC is what you literally just posted.

 

[Fujitora]

I didn't say I refused, again reading helps. I said I'm not interested in a discussion when it's just me talking to three walls.

Which is basically refusing the idea, why are you calling us walls when we’ve been trying to work with your idea?

 

[青月光]

what's ur first command gonna be, king ali

Lynch NFC, then Karma/TS and then SK

That's second command though.

First command is everyone using waifu avys

 

[DrProfessor83]

Like if we believe this role at all then an NFC lynch is a no lynch. So it’s just gambling on whether the NFC and TS roles are bullshit or not.

 

[Fujitora]

what's ur first command gonna be, king ali

Ekko, I hope lind is okay.

 

[Ekkologix]

I didn't say I refused, again reading helps. I said I'm not interested in a discussion when it's just me talking to three walls.

ratchet we have barely began discussing it, don't you feel you are jumping onto conclusions too fast?

have you read the NFC role. does that change anything for you?

 

[Fujitora]

Lynch NFC, then Karma/TS and then SK

That's second command though.

First command is everyone using waifu avys

Does Buggy count as a waifu?

 

[Ekkologix]

Ekko, I hope lind is okay.

he's fine, probably afk tho

 

[青月光]

Does Buggy count as a waifu?

You can use Mereoleona

 

[Fujitora]

he's fine, probably afk tho

He’ll be on soon.

 

[Ekkologix]

Lynch NFC, then Karma/TS and then SK

That's second command though.

First command is everyone using waifu avys

not karma

rest is fine

NFC
TS
SK

works as well

 

[Fujitora]

You can use Mereoleona

As you command

 

[Fujitora]

not karma

rest is fine

NFC
TS
SK

works as well

Why not Karma?

 

[Fujitora]

Also are we gonna talk about the poisoner not flipping yet? Its either SK or someone else. We ought to clear it up soon.

 

[Ekkologix]

Why not Karma?

in what world does karma come before NFC and SK exactly fuji?

 

[Fujitora]

in what world does karma come before NFC and SK exactly fuji?

I meant in the list dumbass

 

[Ekkologix]

I meant in the list dumbass

the list is the priority order, you are asking me why I told ali not to put karma 2nd in order. you okay m8?

 

[DrProfessor83]

Also are we gonna talk about the poisoner not flipping yet? Its either SK or someone else. We ought to clear it up soon.

Assume SK unless he isn’t last Purple. Nothing else to talk about there as of now lol

 

[Fujitora]

the list is the priority order, you are asking me why I told ali not to put karma 2nd in order. you okay m8?

I was asking you why arent you putting Karma at the end of the poe list jfc.

 

[Karma]

not karma

rest is fine

NFC
TS
SK

works as well

U the poisoner?

 

[Ekkologix]

I was asking you why arent you putting Karma at the end of the poe list jfc.

sure you can add her as 4th

and honestly add you as 5th

 

[Ratchet]

Gambling on NFC is what you literally just posted.

You are actually hopeless. See, this is why I just don't bother trying to work with you at all, you're just incapable.

My argument is very clear and simple. There is a greater chance of more than one red remaining in the game than there is of more than one purple. Once both are down to 1 member we can endgame so the optimal path is to cntinue to reduce the numbers of the larger faction.

NFC being death immune throws something of a spanner in this though, because there is the risk of the lynch essentially being voided. I don't think it's likely, and TS *could* be Town, so the risk is mislynching when we have scum on the table. In that respect, Soul being lynched today is reasonable. Fuji, your perspective on this I find concerning. You, if Town, should be aware now that they had role-copped you, and put you in a list with Red to get the Town to lynch Town, not Red, to thin Town numbers first and then focus on Red. If they are following the same idea here, then TS would be Town that we gamble on mislynching to eliminate NFC.

If you believe the message, we can lynch Soul.
Otherwise, NFC is the best lynch.

Bolded - Reasoning and position on why NFC is the best lynch.
Bolded - Argument against lynching TS today. Note the use of the word "gamble". It does not refer to lynching NFC, but lynching TS. The gamble is lynching TS. Hence why the sentence reads "gamble os mislynching". We have no chance of mislynching with NFC.

This was explained yesterday. The King puts their lynches in order, and then it cycles through that order until the first viable lynch is found. They can list as many as they please.

For further posterity:

I have not referred to NFC as a gamble of a lynch here. You can italicise, bold, red text that claim all you like, it will not be any more true. If he can cancel the lynch, he will do so at any time regardless.

 

[Ekkologix]

U the poisoner?

hm?

 

[Fujitora]

and honestly add you as 5th

Add these nuts as well.

 

[Karma]

hm?

U poisned me?

 

[Ratchet]

Which is basically refusing the idea, why are you calling us walls when we’ve been trying to work with your idea?

Why would I refuse something that is in line with what I proposed? And no, me saying you three are brick walls is not "basically refusing the idea", if I were refusing I would refuse.

 

[Ekkologix]

U poisned me?

no?

but i wont heal u even if i could

 

[Fujitora]

Why would I refuse something that is in line with what I proposed? And no, me saying you three are brick walls is not "basically refusing the idea", if I were refusing I would refuse.

Alright fam.

 

[DrProfessor83]

You are actually hopeless. See, this is why I just don't bother trying to work with you at all, you're just incapable.

Bolded - Reasoning and position on why NFC is the best lynch.
Bolded - Argument against lynching TS today. Note the use of the word "gamble". It does not refer to lynching NFC, but lynching TS. The gamble is lynching TS. Hence why the sentence reads "gamble os mislynching". We have no chance of mislynching with NFC.

For further posterity:

I have not referred to NFC as a gamble of a lynch here. You can italicise, bold, red text that claim all you like, it will not be any more true. If he can cancel the lynch, he will do so at any time regardless.

I read all of that. It doesn’t change what I said lol.

You want to roll the dice on NCF over SK here? If so you could have just saved your time and said yes lol.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Idc lol. If he actually has that ability I’ll wash my hands of it lol.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Lynching NFC is indeed a gamble bc we’re gambling that this ability is a lie.

 

[Karma]

There is a mass poisoner in the game

Ive been poisoned/rc will die n6

Sani and Am will die tonight

Its between sk, Saturday and ali

@DrProfessor83 this truth ball u were talking abt, u never lie wen u do it right?

 

[青月光]

.

[One Shot Active - Physical - The marines couldn't do it, and neither can you!] - If Kaido is 1 of the top 3 voted players he Can straight up cancel the lynch that day.

I think this ability was used before

 

[DrProfessor83]

There is a mass poisoner in the game

Ive been poisoned/rc will die n6

Sani and Am will die tonight

Its between sk, Saturday and ali

@DrProfessor83 this truth ball u were talking abt, u never lie wen u do it right?

Never. In fact it feels dirty and cheap to use it bc it’s probably unfair to scum.

 

[DrProfessor83]

I think this ability was used before

The other lynch dodges went to the 2nd wagon no?

 

[Karma]

Never. In fact it feels dirty and cheap to use it bc it’s probably unfair to scum.

Ok then, ill stop tunneling u and ekko then

The ppl i should should be the mass poisoner

 

[青月光]

The other lynch dodges went to the 2nd wagon no?

If memory serves me right there was one night that no lynch ocurred in Game 1 I think?

 

[Fujitora]

Lynching NFC is indeed a gamble bc we’re gambling that this ability is a lie.

Once you become king send TS or Sk into orbit, flip a coin if you must.

 

[Ratchet]

[One Shot Active - Physical - The marines couldn't do it, and neither can you!] - If Kaido is 1 of the top 3 voted players he Can straight up cancel the lynch that day.

a) - We have no idea if this has already been used. I assume not.
b) - This would mark the fourth lynch avoiding ability Red would have.
c) - Kingmaker should void him from being voted by anyone. Might circumvent the ability entirely.
d) - Lynching TS over him here relies on TS being exactly Zoro.
e) - It's a one-shot.
f) - We *can* lynch SoulKiller and have an extra night to clarify TS' slot. Ideally Vig. It's better to lynch confirmed scum over likely scum.

 

[Saturday]

There is a mass poisoner in the game

Ive been poisoned/rc will die n6

Sani and Am will die tonight

Its between sk, Saturday and ali

@DrProfessor83 this truth ball u were talking abt, u never lie wen u do it right?

why you always gotta put me in this?

 

[DrProfessor83]

Once you become king send TS or Sk into orbit, flip a coin if you must.

I don’t want to be King. I always mess up. Make Ekko King.