Game Favorites '22 - THE FINALS (purple mafia wins!)

[nfcnorth]

6 reds and 4 purple
with iwan potentially being purple

3 is still to low for how many purple remain even if you put in iwan imo.

 

[Mich]

Ok so Laix claims there are 8 purple mafia and dies because purple targeted him thinking he is red mafia?
Why not was he targeted because the info is accidentally accurate?

 

[Mich]

Ok so Laix claims there are 8 purple mafia and dies because purple targeted him thinking he is red mafia?
Why not was he targeted because the info is accidentally accurate?

@Draekke

 

[Draekke]

was this person town aligned? have u guys found them yet

As far as I can tell, this person hasn't shown up yet.

 

[Ekkologix]

3 is still to low for how many purple remain even if you put in iwan imo.

4 purple
2 red

thats whats left

6 total scum, minus indies

 

[Ekkologix]

did anything happen to u @Didi @Admiral Fujitora

 

[Draekke]

Ok so Laix claims there are 8 purple mafia and dies because purple targeted him thinking he is red mafia?
Why not was he targeted because the info is accidentally accurate?

Why would knowing the number of mafia left be considered something to target someone to be killed? This literally provides no info on players, it doesn't really affect the game because when they are dead the game is over. If they aren't dead, the game isn't over... it doesn't really strike me as info they would kill over.

 

[Draekke]

@Draekke

And again, are you ignoring the points I made where it would be rather impossible for anyone in group 1 to know how many mafia are left? How would they know this to be able to tell Laix? Maybe once the game is merged and they can maybe target some people to get info, but before the games merge, I see no reason for anyone - especially that of a message-by-host type of role, that - again - has been spreading false information about there being a conversion situation happening? You were part of group 1. Why do you not know this?

 

[Mich]

I have to go to work

Why would knowing the number of mafia left be considered something to target someone to be killed? This literally provides no info on players, it doesn't really affect the game because when they are dead the game is over. If they aren't dead, the game isn't over... it doesn't really strike me as info they would kill over.

It had everything to do with numbers, don't you see Ekko makes the effort to consider purple mafia has 4 members left while in fact they can be 8?
Lylo comes earlier if mafia has such big numbers and they convince everyone they are fewer and they gain control on the lynch.

 

[Draekke]

And again, are you ignoring the points I made where it would be rather impossible for anyone in group 1 to know how many mafia are left? How would they know this to be able to tell Laix? Maybe once the game is merged and they can maybe target some people to get info, but before the games merge, I see no reason for anyone - especially that of a message-by-host type of role, that - again - has been spreading false information about there being a conversion situation happening? You were part of group 1. Why do you not know this?

bad grammer - "I see no reason for anyone to have this kind of TMI about a mafia group"

 

[Ekkologix]

I have to go to work

It had everything to do with numbers, don't you see Ekko makes the effort to consider purple mafia has 4 members left while in fact they can be 8?
Lylo comes earlier if mafia has such big numbers and they convince everyone they are fewer and they gain control on the lynch.

are u saying there r 8 alive now?
what scum to town ratio r u working with

 

[Mich]

And again, are you ignoring the points I made where it would be rather impossible for anyone in group 1 to know how many mafia are left? How would they know this to be able to tell Laix? Maybe once the game is merged and they can maybe target some people to get info, but before the games merge, I see no reason for anyone - especially that of a message-by-host type of role, that - again - has been spreading false information about there being a conversion situation happening? You were part of group 1. Why do you not know this?

maybe the message was fake, but doesn't matter, what matters now is the dude died after sharing it.

 

[Draekke]

I have to go to work

It had everything to do with numbers, don't you see Ekko makes the effort to consider purple mafia has 4 members left while in fact they can be 8?
Lylo comes earlier if mafia has such big numbers and they convince everyone they are fewer and they gain control on the lynch.

I don't know what you're saying with this post, but it doesn't matter if we know the exact number or not. We should be acting as if anyone can be mafia until we're told otherwise. Once we finish the mafia, we are told, no? At least that's my experience. So if it's 4 or 6 or 8 left, it doesn't really matter. keep going until the game stops. The number is just a distraction.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Considering the possibility of this being a chainsaw defense by Mich if her and Owner are teammates.

Might be too obvious to be mates but she isn’t actually town reading Owner here and wouldn’t call her Town when I asked.

If Mich is Red then Red have all the motivation in the world to make people think there are a billion purple out there to keep heat in that direction as much as possible.

@Mich what changes for you if Owner flips mafia here?

 

[Draekke]

maybe the message was fake, but doesn't matter, what matters now is the dude died after sharing it.

causation vs correlation. Just because Laix said that, we have no reason to suspect this is why he was killed. It's a real stretch, imo, to think that. The fact that you seem to be dying on this hill pushes you from null a bit to scum lean for me.

 

[Ekkologix]

maybe the message was fake, but doesn't matter, what matters now is the dude died after sharing it.

okay question mich

does killing laix undo anything that he has revealed? i dont see ur point here.

 

[Ekkologix]

Considering the possibility of this being a chainsaw defense by Mich if her and Owner are teammates.

Might be too obvious to be mates but she isn’t actually town reading Owner here and wouldn’t call her Town when I asked.

If Mich is Red then Red have all the motivation in the world to make people think there are a billion purple out there to keep heat in that direction as much as possible.

@Mich what changes for you if Owner flips mafia here?

also this

same for NFC

 

[Mich]

are u saying there r 8 alive now?
what scum to town ratio r u working with

Let's see the 36 original group 2.
Scum from what i know can be between 25 and 30%
Let's say 25% there is 9 in total
30% means 11.

Now that i look at it, 8 plus the 3 flipped could be 30%. Is this too much?

How many flipped in our group?
Didn't we have a LW?
Maybe they have one as well?

 

[Draekke]

Considering the possibility of this being a chainsaw defense by Mich if her and Owner are teammates.

What is a chainsaw defense?

 

[DrProfessor83]

What is a chainsaw defense?

When your teammate is under fire and you attack in another direction to apply pressure to someone that isn’t them. Usually the person applying the pressure to your teammate to muddy the waters.

 

[Mich]

Considering the possibility of this being a chainsaw defense by Mich if her and Owner are teammates.

Might be too obvious to be mates but she isn’t actually town reading Owner here and wouldn’t call her Town when I asked.

If Mich is Red then Red have all the motivation in the world to make people think there are a billion purple out there to keep heat in that direction as much as possible.

@Mich what changes for you if Owner flips mafia here?

You didn't read my post i said I TR Owner.
I don't preflip anyone, I only make analysis after flip, but I will dig her Iso and check interactions, votes, etc.

Also your attack at me after I suspected you is lame.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Group 1 apparently has multiple ways for scum to survive lynches. For every scum that can survive a lynch somehow you need less of them imo.

Group 2 had a redirect and maybe whatever Iwan is if he’s Purple.

 

[Mich]

okay question mich

does killing laix undo anything that he has revealed? i dont see ur point here.

You didn't answer at my post but you ask me for details.

Killing Laix make the info weaker because they can imagine no one recalls it and it dies somewhere in the thread

 

[Ekkologix]

Group 1 apparently has multiple ways for scum to survive lynches. For every scum that can survive a lynch somehow you need less of them imo.

Group 2 had a redirect and maybe whatever Iwan is if he’s Purple.

purple could also vote in role PM and tinky had so much voting power + vote steals

 

[Mich]

Group 1 apparently has multiple ways for scum to survive lynches. For every scum that can survive a lynch somehow you need less of them imo.

Group 2 had a redirect and maybe whatever Iwan is if he’s Purple.

Group 2 didn't lynch so many scum, but we can speculate they have the same
See Bada claiming he will survive a lynch
But you didn't see that, didn't you?

 

[DrProfessor83]

You didn't read my post i said I TR Owner.
I don't preflip anyone, I only make analysis after flip, but I will dig her Iso and check interactions, votes, etc.

Also your attack at me after I suspected you is lame.

It’s not an attack. It’s an observation of what you’re doing coupled with a possible theory for why you’re doing it.

When I directly asked you if owner was Town you dodged it and turned it back on me. Which I took as you not wanting to tie your horse there. So if you’re hard town reading her here I’ve misunderstood.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Group 2 didn't lynch so many scum, but we can speculate they have the same
See Bada claiming he will survive a lynch
But you didn't see that, didn't you?

You think Bada is Purple?

 

[DrProfessor83]

And if Bada is purple that’s all the more reason for there not to be a million of them.

If you have to burn a ridiculous amount of resources to kill them then there can’t be as many

 

[JoJo]

Nope. Just another inactive.

Just went through the g2 thread and this seems pretty worthless in retrospect. The execution and ability broadcasts appears after the Execution Change broadcast. You could easily have framed melody to "clear" another player from that action and also execute an AFK teammate so you can harvest their abilities.

If someone is truly inactive, then it's unlikely they're using abilities. They just afk. And end up dying.

99% sure broadcasts are scum messages and this is a counterwagon to Didi

 

[DrProfessor83]

99% sure broadcasts are scum messages and this is a counterwagon to Didi

It’s not.

 

[Mich]

It’s not an attack. It’s an observation of what you’re doing coupled with a possible theory for why you’re doing it.

When I directly asked you if owner was Town you dodged it and turned it back on me. Which I took as you not wanting to tie your horse there. So if you’re hard town reading her here I’ve misunderstood.

I told SoulKiller about her and while I think you defend your scumbuddies in Rej and Ekko I answered accordingly
I don't understand why everyone is so protective on them and they are safe and sound so late in the game, while they were town 'cleared' long ago

 

[DrProfessor83]

So @JoJo just to be clear you’re locking in me, Ekko, and Didi as all mafia here?

 

[JoJo]

It’s not.

What about the rest of my post? Or is it too on the nose and you guys are trying to kill g1 because g2 is in shambles

 

[Ekkologix]

You didn't answer at my post but you ask me for details.

Killing Laix make the info weaker because they can imagine no one recalls it and it dies somewhere in the thread

there was no question in your post

so what now mich. what do u want us to do?

Let's see the 36 original group 2.
Scum from what i know can be between 25 and 30%
Let's say 25% there is 9 in total
30% means 11.

Now that i look at it, 8 plus the 3 flipped could be 30%. Is this too much?

How many flipped in our group?
Didn't we have a LW?
Maybe they have one as well?

whats an LW

nitty doesn't do lots of scum in every game of his i played. he can do 4 mafia vs 25 town.

even assuming 30%, that wud be 10 mafia, 1 indie. we have 4 flipped, potentially 5 with iwan being purple. we r looking at 5-6 max in this scenario. thats awfully lot imo

why is this suddenly an important discussion? lets stop this goose chase and get to ur point mich

r u suggesting we ignore a caught liar and lynch into purple PoE?
we can do that. can someone promise to vig owner

feel free to find us a 100% outed purple that we can lynch today

 

[Mich]

You think Bada is Purple?

What reason do you have to think otherwise?

 

[JoJo]

So @JoJo just to be clear you’re locking in me, Ekko, and Didi as all mafia here?

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

absolutely

you guys are shook because I'm right

would you like me to elaborate further?

 

[DrProfessor83]

I told SoulKiller about her and while I think you defend your scumbuddies in Rej and Ekko I answered accordingly
I don't understand why everyone is so protective on them and they are safe and sound so late in the game, while they were town 'cleared' long ago

Ekko literally just had a super kill target him lol. What do you mean safe and sound?

Rej isn’t cleared just very likely Town if he’s protecting Ekko which didn’t come out until D5. There has been ONE night since then and it’s last night.

 

[DrProfessor83]

What reason do you have to think otherwise?

Idk what he is. I think he’s looked more indie. His play around WJ wagon doesn’t make sense if he’s Purple. Not hard clearing but he made himself look very bad and catch a lot of heat for no reason if he’s Purple.

 

[Ekkologix]

Ekko literally just had a super kill target him lol. What do you mean safe and sound?

Rej isn’t cleared just very likely Town if he’s protecting Ekko which didn’t come out until D5. There has been ONE night since then and it’s last night.

u were poisoned
and i think rej claimed poisoned too at some point

these discredit attempts tho lmao

 

[DrProfessor83]

What about the rest of my post? Or is it too on the nose and you guys are trying to kill g1 because g2 is in shambles

It’s not worth refuting.

 

[JoJo]

It’s not worth refuting.

lmfao

bc im right on the nose

keep trying to powerwolf the thread son

not gonna work

 

[DrProfessor83]

..

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

absolutely

you guys are shook because I'm right

would you like me to elaborate further?

Would love for you to lol.

 

[Laix]

thanks for the game @Shizune

i shall... sashay... away

 

[JoJo]

..

Would love for you to lol.

lol

unfortunately for game 2, you guys didnt read game 1 and you didnt read about my role claim

i have a counter ability that fishes for people who target me with negative actions

i know for a fact that john wayne tried to super kill me last night, fortunately for me, i was able to reduce his super kill to a regular kill with his counter. however it left me bleeding

upon ISOing the obvious scum JW is, all of his interactions are garbage and are with didi. it's either fluff, useless, didi throwing some vote at him, etc. looks like obvious scum interactions

as soon as people start voting didi the thread pivots to owner

could she be scum? sure. do i have my read and reasons for suspecting JW and his other buddies in the thread? absolutely.

am i going to go for the people trying to pick me off first? yep.

 

[JoJo]

anyways @ town

i'd like some healing after i off these bozos this day phase

make sure to watch me as well because im 100% gonna get targeted again

 

[Ekkologix]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

absolutely

you guys are shook because I'm right

would you like me to elaborate further?

yes please wud love to see how me and didi can be a team. im excited for this

 

[Mich]

there was no question in your post

so what now mich. what do u want us to do?


whats an LW

nitty doesn't do lots of scum in every game of his i played. he can do 4 mafia vs 25 town.

even assuming 30%, that wud be 10 mafia, 1 indie. we have 4 flipped, potentially 5 with iwan being purple. we r looking at 5-6 max in this scenario. thats awfully lot imo

why is this suddenly an important discussion? lets stop this goose chase and get to ur point mich

r u suggesting we ignore a caught liar and lynch into purple PoE?
we can do that. can someone promise to vig owner

feel free to find us a 100% outed purple that we can lynch today

You are so confident no one is outed purple to lynch today?
I think Didi is.

And also is Rej. His scumhunting skills are nowhere to be seen.

Imo DrProf has scum equity but no one will vote him unfortunately

The others are hiding off wagon. No one pushed anyone to vote on the main wagon.
That means you let everyone safe, out from the lynch pool.
You especially, if you were town, you would do it. Your lack of interest in making a sane lynch pool is outing.

 

[JoJo]

yes please wud love to see how me and didi can be a team. im excited for this

you said yourself that shizune makes super powered roles

didi's role is super powered

you also say you've been at each other's necks most of the game, but no clear end game to the head butting. looks like theatrics in retrospect

 

[DrProfessor83]

lol

unfortunately for game 2, you guys didnt read game 1 and you didnt read about my role claim

i have a counter ability that fishes for people who target me with negative actions

i know for a fact that john wayne tried to super kill me last night, fortunately for me, i was able to reduce his super kill to a regular kill with his counter. however it left me bleeding

upon ISOing the obvious scum JW is, all of his interactions are garbage and are with didi. it's either fluff, useless, didi throwing some vote at him, etc. looks like obvious scum interactions

as soon as people start voting didi the thread pivots to owner

could she be scum? sure. do i have my read and reasons for suspecting JW and his other buddies in the thread? absolutely.

am i going to go for the people trying to pick me off first? yep.

Then JW is cum lol.

But that’s got nothing to do with me and Ekko. JW and Owner are probably both scum.

Didi could be scum but this is not a Didi derail.

I expected cases on me and Ekko. But honestly the JW result is a lot better lol.

 

[Ekkologix]

lol

unfortunately for game 2, you guys didnt read game 1 and you didnt read about my role claim

i have a counter ability that fishes for people who target me with negative actions

i know for a fact that john wayne tried to super kill me last night, fortunately for me, i was able to reduce his super kill to a regular kill with his counter. however it left me bleeding

upon ISOing the obvious scum JW is, all of his interactions are garbage and are with didi. it's either fluff, useless, didi throwing some vote at him, etc. looks like obvious scum interactions

as soon as people start voting didi the thread pivots to owner

could she be scum? sure. do i have my read and reasons for suspecting JW and his other buddies in the thread? absolutely.

am i going to go for the people trying to pick me off first? yep.

i buy this info on JW
sux we cant lynch him today

also thread moved to owner cuz i just got online. has nothing to do with any prior wagon

by all means yeet didi all u want

 

[DrProfessor83]

Then JW is cum lol.

Ffs don’t let Nitty see this.

 

[Ekkologix]

so we cant expect JW to be kind enough to vote owner yeah?

lol

 

[DrProfessor83]

dont forget i also read owner as being genuine

as such, this push itself is incredibly scummy to me. could it be a coincidence? im not against it

but i have my reasons to suspect that purple investigated me and want to off me

and i know didi is the type of person to try and kill me N1 after buddying me with shitposts

get this ^ (use bro) outta here. if you really think that owner is some lonesome scum or a duo scum with mich, then shoot them

but im lynching these bozos today

JW is not eligible lol.

 

[JoJo]

JW is not eligible lol.

hence why im going to his scum buddy

im like 99% sure they're scum. have you not read and ISO'd your own thread? what are your reads on game 1 and 2

 

[Ekkologix]

you said yourself that shizune makes super powered roles

didi's role is super powered

you also say you've been at each other's necks most of the game, but no clear end game to the head butting. looks like theatrics in retrospect

i wanted the dude lynched n2. all bada had to do was vote didi

sin obviously didnt cuz he scum

maybe bada too, who knows

try again lol

 

[hammer]

lmfao

bc im right on the nose

keep trying to powerwolf the thread son

not gonna work

id be happy to join a wagon with you

 

[DrProfessor83]

And Owner has info against them.

Didi may be scum. But Owner is outted unless there’s actually a framer and I don’t believe there is here with how they handled things.

 

[JoJo]

i wanted the dude lynched n2. all bada had to do was vote didi

sin obviously didnt cuz he scum

maybe bada too, who knows

try again lol

well

im giving u a chance to lynch him. you for it or against it?

 

[JoJo]

id be happy to join a wagon with you

u know my weakness

u finna make me town read u like this if u keep acting up

 

[DrProfessor83]

hence why im going to his scum buddy

im like 99% sure they're scum. have you not read and ISO'd your own thread? what are your reads on game 1 and 2

Didi/SK/JW/Bada main scum POE

Owner in G1 is probably scum here. TS and Mich could also be scum. Mich just started looking scummy with their recent posts.

I will always go for mechanically outted scum over someone who is a read.

 

[Draekke]

dont forget i also read owner as being genuine

You're also one of the only one who thinks this way as far as I can tell.

 

[DrProfessor83]

Didi/SK/JW/Bada main scum POE

Owner in G1 is probably scum here. TS and Mich could also be scum. Mich just started looking scummy with their recent posts.

I will always go for mechanically outted scum over someone who is a read.

Hero in main scum POE too.

 

[JoJo]

You're also one of the only one who thinks this way as far as I can tell.

and ill die on that hill

if she flips scum, then feel free to use this against me

 

[JoJo]

FUCK U JOHN WAYNE

U THOUGHT UR SUPER KILL WOULD GET ME

@John Wayne

 

[JoJo]

someone please heal and watch me tonight thx

 

[DrProfessor83]

Didi got an innocent on JW. Something to keep in mind lol.

 

[Draekke]

FUCK U JOHN WAYNE

U THOUGHT UR SUPER KILL WOULD GET ME

@John Wayne

You are.... all over the map right now.

and ill die on that hill

if she flips scum, then feel free to use this against me

So you're saying that read alone has you dying on a hill? Why the intensity?

 

[DrProfessor83]

I’ve been thinking that if Didi is scum the way he’s been hedging on being a naive cop could be if a teammate is in his clear pile.

If JW flips scum but not godfather passive then raises eyebrows lol.

 

[hammer]

u know my weakness

u finna make me town read u like this if u keep acting up

 

[JoJo]

also for the record, this is what I mean about not fully revealing ur information when you have it when i was talking about owner not saying every person she targeted

because it was something i was literally just doing to try and push didi and it didnt seem fair for me to do something and not respectfully extend that grace for another person

i hate that i have to reveal what i saw because i wanted push a JW lynch and see who counter wagons/disagrees but i guess its not gonna happen anymore

 

[Ekkologix]

well

im giving u a chance to lynch him. you for it or against it?

always in
after owner

we can tie them up and let the RNG gods decide

owner legit outed liar stop opposing her. i'll take a JW lynch today if we can but we cant so owner goes

Didi got an innocent on JW. Something to keep in mind lol.

they r both scum lol

didi probably indie tried to buddy scum to stay safe

or maybe jester even

why the fk wud a town role kill scum and announce to everyone he killed scum lol. how does this help a town vig lol

 

[SoulKiller]

someone please heal and watch me tonight thx

Weren't you saying that you still live on if you die or get lynched? Why you want to be healed now?

 

[Ekkologix]

also for the record, this is what I mean about not fully revealing ur information when you have it when i was talking about owner not saying every person she targeted

because it was something i was literally just doing to try and push didi and it didnt seem fair for me to do something and not respectfully extend that grace for another person

i hate that i have to reveal what i saw because i wanted push a JW lynch and see who counter wagons/disagrees but i guess its not gonna happen anymore

i could get by a JW lynch today if hes available wagon

 

[JoJo]

or maybe i will flip town and i will become a ghost with vote power

@Purple mafia

 

[Ekkologix]

also who ever we r lynching we need to keep wagon large now that voting in role PM is actually possible ability in the game

 

[Lord Melkor]

So i f

Ok but look

If this ability came from didi, y would vig give himself up?

If it came from mafia, y would it be broadcast to everyone? The info is most vital with only them knowing it.

This shit is prolly a fake write up tbh

Good point, though Didi was pretty open about his abilities anyway.

Still thinking there is scum cop between Didi and Hero.

Flipping Didi gives us info though, he invested a lot of players.

And i was right to vote JW over Soul, obvious scum at this point.

 

[Lord Melkor]

JW and SK are 100% scum

same with hammer

I recall Hammer was invested inmo by Didi.

GF maybe?

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Didi got an innocent on JW. Something to keep in mind lol.

He avoided being eligible lynch today. Used superkill on Jojo as he claimed. Godfather could be immune to investigation and there are also abilities that can fuck with investigation.

It's weird you didn't consider this possibility.

 

[JoJo]

I recall Hammer was invested inmo by Didi.

GF maybe?

hammer was also put in one of those public role PMs that he targeted no one

but he also has one of the most suspect roles

 

[Traveling Swordsman]

Used superkill on Jojo as he claimed

Jojo claimed this