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You too?

So far you, me and Draekke have all been vote silenced.

Honestly think this is from Hammer, but he said he could vote silence only 2 players. Maybe he upgraded it or something.

What a waste tbh.
I would have stubbornly voted John wayne, the mislynch last day prolly was a counterwagon to JW. JW slacks his ass off aslong his mafia buds have impact lol. I know how the dude plays.

Anyway I tried to watch Nessos. Scum targetted well. That is why I called support on my slot last day.
:/
 
So you do admit that it was kinda random, interesting. But atleast you are being honest about it, it's kinda fishy for a town to go for a random target over a player you think is very likely scum.
Kinda random, but not completely. I also used my counter against my bigger scum reads. It kinda leaves me with "well who am I gonna role block?" and I go through the votes and I look at people. You appeared on the radar and I wanted to try something because based on the amount of scum left and players left, it's not impossible for you to be scum.

I feel like a broken record because I already explained why I voted for Plat. I also addressed it this phase to Prof. I never tried to dodge any lynch tho. This is my first lynch I am not apart of, and that's mainly for me being busy with work, you think I would willingly put myself in lynching rope in DP1 to make use of my vote and try and dodge it now? makes no sense, I have no fear of being at lynching rope, I know who I am, and not gonna lie it's kinda nice to experience this for once I guess. That pattern is unsuccessful because you don't know the context of what went down in G2.
True. I do plan on reading g2 more in depth.

Makes me wonder if what you were doing earlier was opportunistic opportunity to paint someone regarding my slot.
Pretty much I know JW is scum. If he didn't try and kill me, then I would consider the probability of someone trying to frame him as possible. However, I'm operating with information that others don't have. I didn't want to reveal it, but I know I'm confident about it. Essentially what I do when I know something to be highly true, I try and see how other players who don't know what I know act. In your case, I think it's possible you are scum. If I group you as a scum buddy with JW, if I make my claims of being unkillable and a waste of your time when I know or at least think your team tried to kill me, when I try and pressure you as a whole, when I come off as a aggressive asshole and mildly unwarranted, it's all apart of the scum game. Your reaction is how I adjudicate the position of your slot.

Do you think you can pull something like this off as a scum Jojo?
Technically, most interactions here are NAI regardless of what people flip. We have collective town/scum 1/scum 2. I could be scum 1 or 2 pushing a townie from another scum and genuinely think they are scum but be wrong. Likewise I could be a townie making a mistake.

That being said, I am responding to you in a manner that is honest.

and I want to finish this off with a question, do you think I am scum right now?
Honestly, I've liked your reaction thus far. I do think you come off as being genuine. More than that, you don't lash out, give up, or give a reactionary response based on being sussed with another player and whatever else I said to you. Your points are also genuine and I do believe you're trying to be insightful about other players and ask the right questions in your interactions (especially with me, at least)

So then I guess I counter question you, how do you feel about my slot and what do you feel about the current state?
 
Not really, Soul. But I have said this before and still think flipping the players Didi investigated before himself is better imo.

That’s why I want JW out before Didi.

And Owner is someone I’ve been scum reading from before. So would definitely vote her up after Ekko even got info on her.
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I would have stubbornly voted John wayne, the mislynch last day prolly was a counterwagon to JW. JW slacks his ass off aslong his mafia buds have impact lol. I know how the dude plays.

Anyway I tried to watch Nessos. Scum targetted well. That is why I called support on my slot last day.
:/
Well Ekko saw Owner apparently visiting Nessos last night, but Owner denies it and said she didn’t.

Then we had an announcement saying she did visit Nessos, Fuji and Didi.

you two decide who I should lynch and I will follow you as an aplogy for vote silencing.
There’s no need for an apology.
 
but why would he choose to vote silence you?
He said that he would know if someone targeted me last night if I died.

Could be true, but with players suspecting me of being indie and my abilities being revealed that can gain vote power. I wouldn’t be surprised if a town vote silenced me either.

Especially since I am also suspecting hammer.
 
anyway
I'm pretty sure I've explained basically my whole role at this point

speaking of getting limited shots back after the thread merge -

@SoulKiller and @Lord Melkor are innocent


though the result on Soulkiller was a bit weird, I first got a message saying his result was delayed by 1 night, then 3 hours later I got a message telling me I received my delayed result ahead of time (along with the actual result)
 
anyway
I'm pretty sure I've explained basically my whole role at this point

speaking of getting limited shots back after the thread merge -

@SoulKiller and @Lord Melkor are innocent


though the result on Soulkiller was a bit weird, I first got a message saying his result was delayed by 1 night, then 3 hours later I got a message telling me I received my delayed result ahead of time (along with the actual result)
Okay, I may have an idea for the weird result. But you need to tell me if anything else happened to your role last night.
 
pretty sure at least 1 superkill was aimed at me
that's about it, don't know more
Eh damn. Then I’m not sure. See Owner says that she boosted you last night:


didi, but now with the message on tinky's body, I'm not so sure it was a good idea. my boosts don't show up for at least 24 hours as they specifically crafted, so he wouldn't see anything about it until later.
So I assumed that your delayed investigation was received ahead of time because of the boost.

But she herself says that her boosts don’t take effect for at least 24 hours after.
 
[Vote Lynch Owner]

Eh damn. Then I’m not sure. See Owner says that she boosted you last night:



So I assumed that your delayed investigation was received ahead of time because of the boost.

But she herself says that her boosts don’t take effect for at least 24 hours after.

I know nothing about any boost
also pretty sure Owner is a lying scum anyway
 
okay
so d1 I first try to get WormJuice lynched but then switch in the last few hours due to being convinced by Hero, this not only gains tons of attention on Wormjuice but also makes me look bad

and then tinky tries to wagon me d1, I try to lynch her and have been calling for her lynch/death all game, no one complies so I decide to do it myself while also broadcasting a death message about it AND a message to people who visit Hero so there's no confusion about it in the event of my death (ngl I kinda expected to die last night after seeing Soul unfortunately flip town)
oh and tinky also sperged out in the thread yesterday after I put pressure on her once more and called her useless

In what universe does this play make sense if I'm somehow teammates with these guys?????
 
Kinda random, but not completely. I also used my counter against my bigger scum reads. It kinda leaves me with "well who am I gonna role block?" and I go through the votes and I look at people. You appeared on the radar and I wanted to try something because based on the amount of scum left and players left, it's not impossible for you to be scum.


True. I do plan on reading g2 more in depth.


Pretty much I know JW is scum. If he didn't try and kill me, then I would consider the probability of someone trying to frame him as possible. However, I'm operating with information that others don't have. I didn't want to reveal it, but I know I'm confident about it. Essentially what I do when I know something to be highly true, I try and see how other players who don't know what I know act. In your case, I think it's possible you are scum. If I group you as a scum buddy with JW, if I make my claims of being unkillable and a waste of your time when I know or at least think your team tried to kill me, when I try and pressure you as a whole, when I come off as a aggressive asshole and mildly unwarranted, it's all apart of the scum game. Your reaction is how I adjudicate the position of your slot.


Technically, most interactions here are NAI regardless of what people flip. We have collective town/scum 1/scum 2. I could be scum 1 or 2 pushing a townie from another scum and genuinely think they are scum but be wrong. Likewise I could be a townie making a mistake.

That being said, I am responding to you in a manner that is honest.


Honestly, I've liked your reaction thus far. I do think you come off as being genuine. More than that, you don't lash out, give up, or give a reactionary response based on being sussed with another player and whatever else I said to you. Your points are also genuine and I do believe you're trying to be insightful about other players and ask the right questions in your interactions (especially with me, at least)

So then I guess I counter question you, how do you feel about my slot and what do you feel about the current state?

Hmmm, I do see similarities in our play style, trying to get a reaction out of people and go from there. I also, didn't necessarily scum read you for keeping information to yourself and not claiming everything, because that is something I usually do myself, although I am a bit more extreme on the claiming department.

Now regarding your question. I feel like you are answering each of my questions too good for my liking and I would usually sus that. But I can't dismiss the fact that I do feel these answers are truly genuine, like they are coming from the heart. Almost feels like a bait to pocket me, and if that's the case then it's a really good bait. But I am inclined to believe the former, at least for this interaction which I do feel give me better understanding about you as a player better. I also liked the fact that you stood up for what you believe for and was willing to die on it if needed, even if you might be wrong. It's something I def do too as well. Beginning of the merger you were null, as the game progressed and especially DP2 beginning, you were being very shaky and scummy. Now I feel better about you after this interaction and think if you are truly scum, then i'll see you at lylo if I make it that far and we will have another round of conversation.
 
okay
so d1 I first try to get WormJuice lynched but then switch in the last few hours due to being convinced by Hero, this not only gains tons of attention on Wormjuice but also makes me look bad

and then tinky tries to wagon me d1, I try to lynch her and have been calling for her lynch/death all game, no one complies so I decide to do it myself while also broadcasting a death message about it AND a message to people who visit Hero so there's no confusion about it in the event of my death (ngl I kinda expected to die last night after seeing Soul unfortunately flip town)
oh and tinky also sperged out in the thread yesterday after I put pressure on her once more and called her useless

In what universe does this play make sense if I'm somehow teammates with these guys?????

Like
I seriously don't get how you could unironically think I'm scum unless you think I'm making the mother of all WIFOM plays since d1


@SoulKiller @Mich @Lord Melkor

I swear I am not scum
100%

and anyone else who voted me
I lost track
 
bitch get off my dick

I'm pretty sure that ever since I've sussed you and you sperged out, that you haven't made a single post about anyone else but me
Funny, if my memory serves me right, it's after I mentioned your name, you got defensive and reeked of scumminess. Also, clearly someone is not reading the thread lol. Can't blame ya as scum tho.
 
Funny, if my memory serves me right, it's after I mentioned your name, you got defensive and reeked of scumminess. Also, clearly someone is not reading the thread lol. Can't blame ya as scum tho.


what
pretty sure I sussed you and then YOU suddenly started sussing me in return
which yeah I made a big stink about
because it was even more sus to me

anyone apparently you're innocent

but you're still wrong about me


and btw
if you've ever played 1 game with me
you would know that that is indeed what my genuine townie frustration looks like

@JoJo can confirm
 
Hmmm, I do see similarities in our play style, trying to get a reaction out of people and go from there. I also, didn't necessarily scum read you for keeping information to yourself and not claiming everything, because that is something I usually do myself, although I am a bit more extreme on the claiming department.
Fair enough. Also wdym extreme?
Now regarding your question. I feel like you are answering each of my questions too good for my liking and I would usually sus that. But I can't dismiss the fact that I do feel these answers are truly genuine, like they are coming from the heart. Almost feels like a bait to pocket me, and if that's the case then it's a really good bait. But I am inclined to believe the former, at least for this interaction which I do feel give me better understanding about you as a player better. I also liked the fact that you stood up for what you believe for and was willing to die on it if needed, even if you might be wrong. It's something I def do too as well. Beginning of the merger you were null, as the game progressed and especially DP2 beginning, you were being very shaky and scummy. Now I feel better about you after this interaction and think if you are truly scum, then i'll see you at lylo if I make it that far and we will have another round of conversation.
Didn't have much time in the beginning of the merge tbh.

re: being genuine

i guess the ultimate test of this is just consistency. if you ever read through g1 and you see a stark contrast between me now and me in there, then that'd be tell. other than that, probably best to use this interaction as reference going on forward to more properly judge me.

what's lylo btw
 
Fair enough. Also wdym extreme?

Didn't have much time in the beginning of the merge tbh.

re: being genuine

i guess the ultimate test of this is just consistency. if you ever read through g1 and you see a stark contrast between me now and me in there, then that'd be tell. other than that, probably best to use this interaction as reference going on forward to more properly judge me.

what's lylo btw

lynch or lose
it's when you need to lynch a scum, or town loses immediately
 
unironically, i think townie didi would get way more angry

but also you're not active on nf anymore so i cant actually say you would display the same passion now so i cant really make a judgement

fair
I think I mellowed out a bit after being gone for 2 years

hell I was kinda laughing d1 after I almost got d1 lynched cuz it'd be funny memes


but not now though
I've put too much effort now into this game



learned my lesson though
don't tell everyone you are going to shoot a mafia, then shoot that mafia and make sure to tell everyone again that I killed that mafia
because it will make people think you are mafia

because it's !nf (@JoJo do you have the image for me?)
 
anyway
I'm pretty sure I've explained basically my whole role at this point

speaking of getting limited shots back after the thread merge -

@SoulKiller and @Lord Melkor are innocent


though the result on Soulkiller was a bit weird, I first got a message saying his result was delayed by 1 night, then 3 hours later I got a message telling me I received my delayed result ahead of time (along with the actual result)
Can you post again your results?
 
fair
I think I mellowed out a bit after being gone for 2 years

hell I was kinda laughing d1 after I almost got d1 lynched cuz it'd be funny memes


but not now though
I've put too much effort now into this game



learned my lesson though
don't tell everyone you are going to shoot a mafia, then shoot that mafia and make sure to tell everyone again that I killed that mafia
because it will make people think you are mafia

because it's !nf (@JoJo do you have the image for me?)
the image is dead unfortunately
 
Fair enough. Also wdym extreme?

Not big fan of claiming and won't do it unless it's super necessary and won't out information I know. I prefer to play actual mafia than play guessing who used who and what and start theorizing in a role madness game of 70+ players. That's not mafia anymore, to me atleast.

Didn't have much time in the beginning of the merge tbh.

re: being genuine

i guess the ultimate test of this is just consistency. if you ever read through g1 and you see a stark contrast between me now and me in there, then that'd be tell. other than that, probably best to use this interaction as reference going on forward to more properly judge me.

what's lylo btw

You can always brush your tell by 'I was trying to see how he would react' which you did this DP. I will see if I will read G1 although chances of that happening is pretty slim. I'll use best of my abilities to judge a player based of his play in the merger thread where I am actually involved.

As for lylo, basically end game where you either lynch mafia and win or lose. If we ever end up in a situation where it's lylo. Then me and you will have a talk.

Now, with that being said what are your town reads and mafia reads in Group 1 and Group 2 if you have any which I am sure you do.
 
which is different from my other message, which gets PM'd to people who visit someone (last night it was on Hero and at least 1 guy already posted about receiving it)
do you think others would be open about claiming the hero message? because it would imply they visited him and put him in the lynch circle, which is an anti mafia ability and not something someone would want to expose
 
Not big fan of claiming and won't do it unless it's super necessary and won't out information I know. I prefer to play actual mafia than play guessing who used who and what and start theorizing in a role madness game of 70+ players. That's not mafia anymore, to me atleast.
agreed. I think claiming is quite a boring tactic. I'm not even a fan of people doing early ability claims.

You can always brush your tell by 'I was trying to see how he would react' which you did this DP. I will see if I will read G1 although chances of that happening is pretty slim. I'll use best of my abilities to judge a player based of his play in the merger thread where I am actually involved.

As for lylo, basically end game where you either lynch mafia and win or lose. If we ever end up in a situation where it's lylo. Then me and you will have a talk.

Now, with that being said what are your town reads and mafia reads in Group 1 and Group 2 if you have any which I am sure you do.
I can try and find moments where I did that in g1, but im probably too lazy

will definitely consolidate my reads in post as well for you. for now it's 5 am and i kinda cba
 
do you think others would be open about claiming the hero message? because it would imply they visited him and put him in the lynch circle, which is an anti mafia ability and not something someone would want to expose

idk

but I was gonna expose everyone who got it anyway because I can (limited shot) learn who all got that message
but we have to wait for nitty to wake up
 
I don't know if I will ever fix my horrendous sleeping schedule. Sleeping around 4-5 am and getting 4-5 hours of sleep everyday. The waking up part always feels horrible, but I keep doing it again and whenever I try to fix it. Somehow, someway, the old sleeping schedule makes it's way back in. It's a curse I can never escape.

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Go to sleep SK smh
You find us here when you wake up :)
 
agreed. I think claiming is quite a boring tactic. I'm not even a fan of people doing early ability claims.


I can try and find moments where I did that in g1, but im probably too lazy

will definitely consolidate my reads in post as well for you. for now it's 5 am and i kinda cba
Take your time, it's almost 4 am here as well.
 
limited shot vig and almost dead at this point but yeah
oh wait i just thought of something

>didi gets super killed at night
>owner visited him
>owner also allegedly visited nessos who died

do u think owner can kill people twice in a night? it doesnt make sense that u would get super killed but also the other person she allegedly targeted died

this either means she's a double killing mafia (doubt it) or someone saw u lose lives tonight and theyre trying to frame nessos death on a possible vig or killer who might be owner
 

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