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Ekkologix said:
we got his role as red color

i still didnt read his full role. i thought fuji was red

he didnt push for them much in thread, he wanted to lynch purple for a big part of it

like we had to lie about owner, then reveal the rest of the team

also red players were kinda obvious we rolecopped 3 of them in one time lol

but town would never believe us if we kept saying red had 4 more members. that ratio + lynch stoppers really tilted me

did fuji kill a single red member? cuz didi fked us hard there killing our strongest vote manupulation role
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fuji had limitation in his role cause he knows who all the members are so he cant directly kill them. He did do some pushing and stuff but he also had to outlive your team. He was making red bleed too much in g1 so he had to refocus back to you in the merge
 
SoulKiller said:
Grichka and Igor Bogdanoff
from real life
durability rating: 4

[Passive - Advanced Cosmetic Surgery] - Grichka and Igor paid the Academy to turn them into cyborgs, protecting them against roleblocks and role crushes.


[Innate - Huge in France] - Grichka and Igor work in media, where they are always being filmed. If another player visits Grichka and Igor, the twins will learn that player's name and the effects of their ability.

[Active - Tactical - Nosy Neighbors] - Grichka and Igor love to get in other peoples' business. During the night Grichka and Igor can watch another player to learn who visits them and the effects of any abilities used on them.

[Conditional Active - Tactical - Keeping Up With the Joneses] - If Grichka and Igor perceive an ability effect with [Huge in France] or [Nosy Neighbors] then they can become jealous and demand the Academy add that effect to their programming, permanently giving them an ability based on that effect. Grichka and Igor can use this ability once per cycle.


[Two Shot Active - Physical - Double Trouble] - Grichka and Igor can split up, enabling them to use [Nosy Neighbors] on 2 players that night. Grichka and Igor don't like to be apart, so they can't use this ability 2 nights in a row. If Grichka and Igor are alive when the two Favorites games are recombined, they will gain 2 more charges of this ability.

[One Shot Active - Tactical - Ladies Luncheon] - Grichka and Igor can gather their teammates at a fundraiser, enabling Grichka and Igor to use [Nosy Neighbors] on all their teammates that night. If Grichka and Igor are alive when the two Favoites games are recombined, they will gain an extra charge of this ability.

[One Shot Active - Tactical - Fame is Our Drug of Choice] - Grichka and Igor can leverage their connections at the Academy to use [Keeping Up With the Joneses] twice that night. If Grichka and Igor are alive when the two Favoites games are recombined, they will gain an extra charge of this ability.
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Gahahaha :hestonpls

Was low-key looking forward to seeing Asuka Ryo though :toppup
 
JoJo said:
cna we fast forward to next favorites

i have players who need kills thrown at them
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I'm sorry Jojo... but you are already dead
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Ekkologix said:
we got his role as red color

i still didnt read his full role. i thought fuji was red

he didnt push for them much in thread, he wanted to lynch purple for a big part of it

like we had to lie about owner, then reveal the rest of the team

also red players were kinda obvious we rolecopped 3 of them in one time lol

but town would never believe us if we kept saying red had 4 more members. that ratio + lynch stoppers really tilted me

did fuji kill a single red member? cuz didi fked us hard there killing our strongest vote manupulation role
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Fuji couldn't kill his teammates, but he guided them toward a lot of misinformation and bad plays, while also feeding @Lind a ton of info about the red team.

You're doing this really annoying thing that everyone does, where they dismiss the problems other sides faced, while really dramatizing the problems their own side faced.

Fuji heavily controlled the entire way the red team thought and how they played the game. Most of them were very upset to learn Fuji was a traitor.

But I have to explain this piece-by-piece now, because you're so worked up about your own perspective, you aren't seeing it from theirs. :mlpshrug And this isn't just you, this is everyone doing this. People are so fixated on the smallest problems they personally encountered, while having no concept of what other people faced this game.
 
DrProfessor83 said:
Usually I fuck it up tinfoiling it the other way lmao. I had to change it up.
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fair enough

i actually think semi logic + semi tinfoil is the best way to win mafia. sometimes u need to think around the box. i’ve played enough games where everyone thinks about possiblities but the exact truth is something else. however if they operate with only “logic” then they’ll never be able to tackle the true reality or events that occur

anyways gg mate
 
JoJo said:
fair enough

i actually think semi logic + semi tinfoil is the best way to win mafia. sometimes u need to think around the box. i’ve played enough games where everyone thinks about possiblities but the exact truth is something else. however if they operate with only “logic” then they’ll never be able to tackle the true reality or events that occur

anyways gg mate
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I’m keeping the Dio avy tho. See you next favs.
 
Ekkologix said:
we got his role as red color

i still didnt read his full role. i thought fuji was red

he didnt push for them much in thread, he wanted to lynch purple for a big part of it

like we had to lie about owner, then reveal the rest of the team

also red players were kinda obvious we rolecopped 3 of them in one time lol

but town would never believe us if we kept saying red had 4 more members. that ratio + lynch stoppers really tilted me

did fuji kill a single red member? cuz didi fked us hard there killing our strongest vote manupulation role
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I KILLED TINKY UDFHDKD
 
Karma said:
Also we cant be shit talked for poor scum reading

Everyone we listed as purp was town convinced ekko was innocent

Even after my own team gave up on it i was 100% still on that ekko is purp train
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btw we redirected TS to legend yes

we knew he had a superkill since luffy/owner had just died and we wanted that to hit legend since we arent poisoning him
 
Karma said:
This was me seeing fuji flip indie after being told there were no bastard mechanics + seeing fuji's introduced as red 3 different times

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I maintain that this wasn't a bastard game, and that I don't host bastard games. Everything written in the OP was upheld as true. I was clear about what kinds of mechanics I wouldn't use, like death millers and jesters, and everything else was fair game. I specifically said that information presented in writeups was always true, and I also specifically never said information in PMs was always true.

I think because this game was more traditional than recent years have been, people actually got a little too comfortable and didn't tinfoil enough. I don't consider this a bastard game because I never contradicted myself, and I left clues everywhere to help you figure things out, right down to making @Karma share a submitter with Fuji's fake role so that attention should have been on Fuji.

In fact, Fuji was put on the spot to come up with a fake role when @JoJo surprised him with a private chat, and I really don't feel Fuji's fake role was convincing, but Jojo didn't even bother reading the role.

There's also a lot of context here. These kinds of mechanics are commonly known and expected. I and other hosts have used fake neighbor roles, as well as secret mafia traitors. Neither of these are new types of mechanics, nor were they even utilized in unusual ways here. I don't blame you for not expecting them, but you also can't blame me for not expecting you to be surprised by them.

I even specifically told you all that your team had a theme of being disorganized, and not working together. This was shown through your lack of a team chat, but I included flavor text about it as well.
 
Badalight said:
@Didi explain that soul wagon.

Pay for ur sins
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if I'd known at that point that JW had also a non-significant amount of votes on him I'd have pivoted there, but I didn't know

and Soul was playing low effort garbage game so yeah, sorry
turns out he was he town and hero who at least tried was mafia
the dichotomy there you cannot blame me

you can only blame me for soul dying over JW, which once again, sorry. Didn't realize JW also had a good wagon on him
 
Ekkologix said:
Mierin is better known as the great and terrible Lanfear. Lanfear appears to be part of the red mafia team, but Lanfear secretly has her own win condition: to be the last member of either mafia team alive


@Shizune fuji had to kill purple too :tiredpepe

no wonder he was trying to lynch into purple PoE
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Why did you tag me like this is news to me?! Lmaooo
 
Didi said:
if I'd known at that point that JW had also a non-significant amount of votes on him I'd have pivoted there, but I didn't know

and Soul was playing low effort garbage game so yeah, sorry
turns out he was he town and hero who at least tried was mafia
the dichotomy there you cannot blame me

you can only blame me for soul dying over JW, which once again, sorry. Didn't realize JW also had a good wagon on him
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My vote was on jw. Like u wanna talk low effort scum game ;(
 
Ekkologix said:
Mierin is better known as the great and terrible Lanfear. Lanfear appears to be part of the red mafia team, but Lanfear secretly has her own win condition: to be the last member of either mafia team alive


@Shizune fuji had to kill purple too :tiredpepe

no wonder he was trying to lynch into purple PoE
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fuji was helping Didi of sorts ahaha
 
Shizune said:
I maintain that this wasn't a bastard game, and that I don't host bastard games. Everything written in the OP was upheld as true. I was clear about what kinds of mechanics I wouldn't use, like death millers and jesters, and everything else was fair game. I specifically said that information presented in writeups was always true, and I also specifically never said information in PMs was always true.

I think because this game was more traditional than recent years have been, people actually got a little too comfortable and didn't tinfoil enough. I don't consider this a bastard game because I never contradicted myself, and I left clues everywhere to help you figure things out, right down to making @Karma share a submitter with Fuji's fake role so that attention should have been on Fuji.

In fact, Fuji was put on the spot to come up with a fake role when @JoJo surprised him with a private chat, and I really don't feel Fuji's fake role was convincing, but Jojo didn't even bother reading the role.

There's also a lot of context here. These kinds of mechanics are commonly known and expected. I and other hosts have used fake neighbor roles, as well as secret mafia traitors. Neither of these are new types of mechanics, nor were they even utilized in unusual ways here. I don't blame you for not expecting them, but you also can't blame me for not expecting you to be surprised by them.

I even specifically told you all that your team had a theme of being disorganized, and not working together. This was shown through your lack of a team chat, but I included flavor text about it as well.
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Ok, but y could Luffy upgrade Fuji's role if he wasnt actually part of our team?
 
JoJo said:
i started pushing soul cuz Mich said soulsomething was scum but i couldnt remember who so i just rolled with the first soul i saw
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So now y'all understand, that when the red team's hopes of figuring out Fuji was a traitor relied on Jojo reading Fuji's entire fake role, it just wasn't gonna work out :skully
 
@DrProfessor83 Really. I asked you several times regarding Ekko. Like it sucks because I caught on to the right answer only for you to insist to me he must be Town.

Thanks for the game @Shizune, I think in terms of being able to play Mafia this was the best Favourites in achieving that. Good game.

But man this is frustrating. I feel like the lesson here for me is that I just can't rely on anyone in these games. Like what. Do I have to just play like a Serial and assume everyone else is incompetent? I tried to cover my blind spots here but trusting in another player who I knew to be Town (Prof) turned out to be the wrong play so do I just not even try to work with anyone? Seems to be the best way honestly, at least then I can direct my frustration towards myself only instead of whatever this is. Just a very frustrating outcome.
 
Shizune said:
So now y'all understand, that when the red team's hopes of figuring out Fuji was a traitor relied on Jojo reading Fuji's entire fake role, it just wasn't gonna work out :skully
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hey i have bad memory

:sadpanda

tbh game 1 should have immediately lynched me when on Day 3 i told a story that made sense and i could refer back to my day 1 actions + day 2 behavior to support it

the real town jojo would have forgotten everything by then
 
Ratchet said:
@DrProfessor83 Really. I asked you several times regarding Ekko. Like it sucks because I caught on to the right answer only for you to insist to me he must be Town.

Thanks for the game @Shizune, I think in terms of being able to play Mafia this was the best Favourites in achieving that. Good game.

But man this is frustrating. I feel like the lesson here for me is that I just can't rely on anyone in these games. Like what. Do I have to just play like a Serial and assume everyone else is incompetent? I tried to cover my blind spots here but trusting in another player who I knew to be Town (Prof) turned out to be the wrong play so do I just not even try to work with anyone? Seems to be the best way honestly, at least then I can direct my frustration towards myself only instead of whatever this is. Just a very frustrating outcome.
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Ratchet I'm sorry but

after I made that big speech before the game about how you're such an upstanding and levelheaded player

And then toward the end of the game you started letting these bitches HAVE it

I was fucking screaming :lmao

I was like WHO is this person who stole Ratchet's account to start flaming everyone :rotfl
 
[Innate - An Unhealthy Obsession] - Lanfear is completely obsessed with one of the members of the town. At the start of the game, Lanfear must choose one player who isn't in her mafia team to become her [Obsession]. Lanfear will learn her Obsession's role, and she will use her magic to redirect all kills away from them to different, randomly-chosen members of the town. If Lanfear's Obsession dies, Lanfear will leave the game. If Lanfear wins the game, her Obsession will win with her.
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why did this redirect our poison on lind @Shizune
the OP says that poisons arent treated as "kills"


[Passive - Anything you can do, I can do better] - Lanfear is a sorceress of unrivaled power. If another player uses a magical ability on Lanfear, she will learn their name and the effect of their ability. If the ability was not protective or helpful to Lanfear, she will reflect it back at its user. If the ability has some helpful parts but other negative or investigative effects, Lanfear will accept only the helpful parts and reflect the unhelpful parts.
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lmao so it was not innate. it was simply fuji immune to crushes i see

shudnt a failed rolecrush on him be downgraded into a roleblock then stop him from reflecting stuff back to soul? aka roleblocks this passive @Shizune

[Active - Magical - Compulsion] - During the night Lanfear can bewitch another player's mind, permanently marking them with [Compulsion].

[Compulsion] - If Lanfear is attacked with a kill, this player will unknowingly redirect the kill to themselves. This mark is consumed when it triggers. While this mark persists, any harmful or investigative abilities its bearer uses on Lanfear will be redirected away from her without their knowledge.
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does this work before rolecrushes/roleblocks

actually nice role. fuji was giving us hard time with these redirects lategame
 
Ekkologix said:
why did this redirect our poison on lind @Shizune
the OP says that poisons arent treated as "kills"



lmao so it was not innate. it was simply fuji immune to crushes i see

shudnt a failed rolecrush on him be downgraded into a roleblock then stop him from reflecting stuff back to soul? aka roleblocks this passive @Shizune


does this work before rolecrushes/roleblocks

actually nice role. fuji was giving us hard time with these redirects lategame
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Usopp I'm going to be honest with you

I do not currently have the energy or time to go line-by-line with you on anything that happened over the past MONTH this game took place

and if I'm being even more honest

I do not foresee myself having that time or that energy

like, ever

LMAO
 
Ekkologix said:
why did this redirect our poison on lind @Shizune
the OP says that poisons arent treated as "kills"



lmao so it was not innate. it was simply fuji immune to crushes i see

shudnt a failed rolecrush on him be downgraded into a roleblock then stop him from reflecting stuff back to soul? aka roleblocks this passive @Shizune


does this work before rolecrushes/roleblocks

actually nice role. fuji was giving us hard time with these redirects lategame
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bro how do u want questions for a game u won already xd
 
Shizune said:
Usopp I'm going to be honest with you

I do not currently have the energy or time to go line-by-line with you on anything that happened over the past MONTH this game took place

and if I'm being even more honest

I do not foresee myself having that time or that energy

like, ever

LMAO
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its whatever u can ignore it

thats for the game lol
 
Ratchet said:
@DrProfessor83 Really. I asked you several times regarding Ekko. Like it sucks because I caught on to the right answer only for you to insist to me he must be Town.
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Ratchet said:
so do I just not even try to work with anyone?
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Just don’t work with me lol. You knew I was shit before you threw your chips in with me.
 
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