Game Favorites '22 - THE FINALS (purple mafia wins!)

[Ratchet]

Indies like serial killer and survivor?

The numbers are from your general mafia experience or this game info?

General/both. Don't see double digit mafia when they have lynch redirection etc.

 

[Fujitora]

JoJo even said that he would rather keep owner alive if she were maf so that purple maf would have to take her out. Nah, lynch owner, and then purple maf have to find another red mafia tonight.

Purpie boys will not take out the other mafia at this stage with the influx of town from Group 1, they still need to thin out the herd.

 

[Ratchet]

My feelings are very hurt rn.

That was for Ekko obviously

 

[Fujitora]

Prof being mean to Waifubro.

Not acceptable.

What are you gonna do about it ? You’re just a puny ghost rn.

 

[青月光]

Sorry lol. I was a little annoyed before entering the thread. This hasn’t helped my mood lol.

I know how you feel. No biggie.

In here our patience runs low xD

 

[Ratchet]

What are you gonna do about it ? You’re just a puny ghost rn.

I will visit his house and play pranks to wake him up at night.

 

[青月光]

It’s day 7 of our game. Why not post some real stuff instead of fluff?

I already said who to off. You guys don't listen.

Should have gone for JW instead of Soul.

 

[Lind]

NFC looks worse imo

Yeah I had NFC as a scum read until he claimed to be connected with Kira who’s a town read for me and vouched for him today.

Him going after Prof with all this just seems so weird to me. If I got NFC’s hints right, him and Kira have known each other or something about each others’ roles since before the merger.

It’s the whole reason I thought his chances of being town now are quite high.

I think he might have pushed a little too far and then just went full overdrive so people would make that exact argument.

Yeah, I wouldn’t mind putting Jojo in the scum reads either. There were posts of his that I didn’t agree with in Group 1 as well.

We’ll analyze him thoroughly once Owner flips.

 

[Juan]

yeah this prof push doesn't really vibe with me in all honesty

 

[DrProfessor83]

I know how you feel. No biggie.

In here our patience runs low xD

I was even kind of mean to my puppy a minute ago lol. I raised my voice at it and felt bad after.

 

[Ekkologix]

different game as ratchet

even if they flip red scum, it doesnt mean anything for him. likewise if drprof flips purple scum, it means nothing for me

ive just played enough 3 faction games (town, double maf and town, mafia, scum) to know that tunneling one team ALWAYS results in the loss for town

if peopel really believe there are fewer red scum, then we should just vig them at night. if the red scum are so obvious, then putting them as talking points for the thread is pretty worthless. we have a huge POE for g2

town loses if u follow g2 power wolfing scum imo

same argument can be said for purple

We also have purple mafia abilities that let them vote secretly in their thread. I just don't like the lynch being used against us and I find it extremely frustrating. It's our best tool, and yet it seems like every day they can do something to fuck us on it. I think g1 had the most success by making everyone an option and it's the route I want to follow here today.

The claims here just don't make sense to me. We also have people in g2 voting owner, like ekko, when he believes there are 1-2 red scum left. If purple mafia is as strong as they seem, then we're just helping them if we go for owner. Stragglers are better off super killed IMO. They tried to kill me last night with other townies and now theyre trying to control our vote and claim credit if she flips scum or give us an "oh well, i guess there was manipulation with my public results"

I've seen enough games go sour because of tunneling the other team while town gets offed at night. Trust me brah. Give me the same confidence you had in shrike the day he lynched Broker. If owner is scum, she can be lynched tomorrow NP, but that's not guaranteed for DrProf who is 100% scum imo

listen prof is not purple. if JW was available for lynch today we wud lynch him

if u wanna second wagon go for didi/hero. u can argue those all u want

JW can be vigged otherwise

ur not pushing purple here. u r opposing a red lynch and pushing town. thats what u r doing

also purple lost 1 at night. think of it as tinky being executed today

 

[Draekke]

Purpie boys will not take out the other mafia at this stage with the influx of town from Group 1, they still need to thin out the herd.

Not sure I agree, but maybe. If I were either mafia I’d be gunning for my biggest threat, which is the other mafia. Group 1 doesn’t have enough knowledge of group 2 to be a big threat, quite honestly lol.

 

[Ratchet]

Yeah I had NFC as a scum read until he claimed to be connected with Kira who’s a town read for me and vouched for him today.

Him going after Prof with all this just seems so weird to me. If I got NFC’s hints right, him and Kira have known each other or something about each others’ roles since before the merger.

It’s the whole reason I thought his chances of being town now are quite high.


Yeah, I wouldn’t mind putting Jojo in the scum reads either. There were posts of his that I didn’t agree with in Group 1 as well.

We’ll analyze him thoroughly once Owner flips.

His vouch of kira was weird, not clearing imo

 

[Mich]

You have a few hours left. Why not place the vote to apply pressure? Just seems like a “oh well, I would vote you but I won’t” in an attempt to gain some cred if he flips, but don’t want to put yourself on the vote in case he flips town.

I don't care about any credit , I want to lynch mafia, not just vote mafia.

If he has a wagon of 3 people when Kvo makes the VC I will join it.

 

[Juan]

i do get the whole "focus on both anti-town factions" thing, since it's how i steamrolled my last multiball, but uh

... yeah idk, feels like too much

 

[Juan]

I was even kind of mean to my puppy a minute ago lol. I raised my voice at it and felt bad after.

nvm maybe i should vote prof

 

[Ratchet]

Yeah I had NFC as a scum read until he claimed to be connected with Kira who’s a town read for me and vouched for him today.

Him going after Prof with all this just seems so weird to me. If I got NFC’s hints right, him and Kira have known each other or something about each others’ roles since before the merger.

It’s the whole reason I thought his chances of being town now are quite high.


Yeah, I wouldn’t mind putting Jojo in the scum reads either. There were posts of his that I didn’t agree with in Group 1 as well.

We’ll analyze him thoroughly once Owner flips.

Also lind kira doesn't vouch for him back. That's important.

 

[Fujitora]

@Owner Of A Lonely Heart what did you do to me btw?

 

[nfcnorth]

NFC looks worse imo

Look Ratchet I know you are capable of being smarter than you are being right now where you are being hard headed. But actually open up to my main message and not be saying stuff that is being said. I think you are seeing the trees and not the forest. Stop being so nice to the people in your game they are straight up using you and you are undestmating them so hard it straight up tilts me.

[vote lynch owner]. I am still very much in the much in the DrProf is full of shit camp but I don't think I am getting anywhere with it so might as well main wagon.

 

[Ratchet]

I was even kind of mean to my puppy a minute ago lol. I raised my voice at it and felt bad after.

If it were a cat, that would be fine. Alas.

Take a breather, you will not be lynched today.

 

[Lind]

I was even kind of mean to my puppy a minute ago lol. I raised my voice at it and felt bad after.

You’re a dog person prof? Haha dogs are the best!

His vouch of kira was weird, not clearing imo

Lol, even Kira didn’t believing it to an extent.

But apparently NFC is dying tonight. At least according to @Kira Yagami

 

[Didi]

I'm like 99% sure Jojo is just town in a retarded tunnel

he gets like this sometimes where he's completely convinced of himself and won't let anyone change his mind

 

[Draekke]

I don't care about any credit , I want to lynch mafia, not just vote mafia.

If he has a wagon of 3 people when Kvo makes the VC I will join it.

All I’m saying, is when someone posts “yeah I’d vote you” and then doesn’t, it’s a weak play because it seems like you’re placing that here to be able to point back and be like “hey look, I ALSO thought he was mafia, so I’m cleared too, right?”

 

[Ratchet]

Stop being so nice to the people in your game they are straight up using you and you are undestmating them so hard it straight up tilts me.

I'm not "nice". I just know the player in question here and what he is and is not capable of as Scum. Nothing more, nothing about personal sentiment or attachment to my game, as if that makes any sense.

 

[Didi]

I don't know where my execute vote is atm

[Vote Execute hammer]

n2 inno result
but they've given up publically so w/e

 

[Juan]

I'm like 99% sure Jojo is just town in a retarded tunnel

he gets like this sometimes where he's completely convinced of himself and won't let anyone change his mind

what if he's actually an indie, DOES think prof is scum

and this is the way to get us to let him survive until the end

 

[Draekke]

what if he's actually an indie, DOES think prof is scum

and this is the way to get us to let him survive until the end

He’s already jokingly claimed Indy and then backtracked.

 

[Alwaysmind]

even if owner flips scum, it doesnt actually prove theyre pro-town

i might vote owner because i want a consolidated vote, but im just trying to convince you guys that drprof is scum

because it's so obvious

I dunno, I need to get coffee. Ol scoliosis being a pain.
All I was saying is that others don’t seem persuaded to go for dr.!last minute. If I got the tally right owner is in the lead like the Blue Jays warmers against the Red Sox last week.

 

[SoulKiller]

 

[Didi]

tho it's real scummy that he just flat out refuses to vote owner and tries to get wagons going against her

 

[Draekke]

tho it's real scummy that he just flat out refuses to vote owner and tries to get wagons going against her

He finally put his vote on owner after I called him out for dropping a vote on you and then dipping lol.

 

[Lind]

Yeah, didn’t like those indie claims from JoJo. He’s done it twice now in this day phase already and backtracked both times.

 

[Kira Yagami]

You’re a dog person prof? Haha dogs are the best!


Lol, even Kira didn’t believing it to an extent.

But apparently NFC is dying tonight. At least according to @Kira Yagami

Check the d2 write up, says hes being superkilled tonight

 

[Mich]

All I’m saying, is when someone posts “yeah I’d vote you” and then doesn’t, it’s a weak play because it seems like you’re placing that here to be able to point back and be like “hey look, I ALSO thought he was mafia, so I’m cleared too, right?”

Please. I am too sleepy at almost midnight to even explain you why one single vote can't change anything when he is pocketing since day 1 everyone in group 2.
I should sleep, the sentence seems broken
Maybe i can wake up for Eod, idk

 

[DrProfessor83]

If it were a cat, that would be fine. Alas.

Take a breather, you will not be lynched today.

It’s participating in the arguments themselves that tilt me lol. Not even worried about him convincing enough people to shift the wagons.

 

[Draekke]

Check the d2 write up, says hes being superkilled tonight

Only if a) he can’t tank them which he has proven to be able to tank regular kills, and b) if nobody visits him to protect him.

 

[Lind]

Check the d2 write up, says hes being superkilled tonight

I actually missed his name there the first time. Thanks.

 

[Hero]

Did you get anything else or anything happen to you?

Nope. I’m basically useless rn. Unless you guys scan me and the last person I targeted we get a result on.

 

[Fujitora]

Shrike wanted Owner Lynched the day before he died and still wanted her gone during the voting process. If he was around she would’ve been the lynch last day phase I reckon.

I too had her in my list with TS and Alibaba+ legend but Ali is good for me now.

Owner claimed watcher too same as Ish and both visited Vanya that night with Hidden/Mango and I forgot who else.

Mango healed Vanya and I assume Hidden did something good too.

That + she was calling me out, when I posited that Flowers mates may have been people trying to divert from discussion once she made her botched claim or straight up ignoring it, by saying something along the lines of why cant it be players who weren’t around too. Felt a bit like TMI to me at the time.

 

[Kira Yagami]

But if he doesnt die tonight there is definitely a discussion to be had there

 

[nfcnorth]

I'm not "nice". I just know the player in question here and what he is and is not capable of as Scum. Nothing more, nothing about personal sentiment or attachment to my game, as if that makes any sense.

Nice as in too much town cred blanketly. Its not something I mean you are being personal about but rather I think you are taking a little to much for granted in game 2 and missing logical thoughts because of it. Even stuff I feel we differ on which I am fine with by the way I still feel like you are coming up short on thinking through going by your own logic atm. And thats what actually tilts me is it feels like you are shackling yourself to ideas that are against solving the game.

 

[Ratchet]

It’s participating in the arguments themselves that tilt me lol. Not even worried about him convincing enough people to shift the wagons.

It was er

It was close to being shifted lol

 

[Fujitora]

Nope. I’m basically useless rn. Unless you guys scan me and the last person I targeted we get a result on.

That you target or get targeted by?

 

[Draekke]

Shrike wanted Owner Lynched the day before he died and still wanted her gone during the voting process. If he was around she would’ve been the lynch last day phase I reckon.

I too had her in my list with TS and Alibaba+ legend but Ali is good for me now.

Owner claimed watcher too same as Ish and both visited Vanya that night with Hidden/Mango and I forgot who else.

Mango healed Vanya and I assume Hidden did something good too.

That + she was calling me out, when I posited that Flowers mates may have been people trying to divert from discussion once she made her botched claim or straight up ignoring it, by saying something along the lines of why cant it be players who weren’t around too. Felt a bit like TMI to me at the time.

Ish also had owner at the top of his scum list, for what it’s worth

 

[Ratchet]

Nice as in too much town cred blanketly. Its not something I mean you are being personal about but rather I think you are taking a little to much for granted in game 2 and missing logical thoughts because of it. Even stuff I feel we differ on which I am fine with by the way I still feel like you are coming up short on thinking through going by your own logic atm. And thats what actually tilts me is it feels like you are shackling yourself to ideas that are against solving the game.

Know that I am doing my diligence here, of that you can be assured.

 

[Ekkologix]

ok lol

are u masons? did u invest him?

imagine accusing me of fishing and then asking this

crazy how owner killed nessos when i super killed him

say sike right now

 

[nfcnorth]

Know that I am doing my diligence here, of that you can be assured.

Show me that don't tell me that

 

[Fujitora]

Ish also had owner at the top of his scum list, for what it’s worth

Yeah they had a huge back and forth whereas Ish accused Owner of being scum that tried to attack Vanya the night he was bleeding. But Owner gave out the same watcher results as Ish so the whole thing was shelved.

 

[SoulKiller]

I don't fucking know I hate this lynchpool mechanic tbh
might be the worst thing about the game

I do feel Owner is probably red scum

but I kinda want to kill these purple bastards first so someone from our group has priority
hang on let me go recheck who can even be lynched from our group today zzzz

The only person from Group 2 I am willing to axe this DP is you.

 

[DrProfessor83]

It was er

It was close to being shifted lol

I think 2nd wagon is as high as I’d have ever gotten lol. Which may have been enough to kill me depending on this this goes lol.

 

[Draekke]

That you target or get targeted by?

When he scans someone, his alignment when scanned can be corrupted if he scanned mafia. So if we scan him, and he comes up mafia, the implication is that the last person who he scanned would be mafia.

 

[Ratchet]

Show me that don't tell me that

I have shown it enough in the Game 2 thread, my word should be enough on this. Do you think I hard vouch for someone for no reason? How likely do you think it is that pure innocent Ratchy gets bamboozled by the mean scum pulling the wool over his naive eyes?

Not very.

 

[Draekke]

Yeah they had a huge back and forth whereas Ish accused Owner of being scum that tried to attack Vanya the night he was bleeding. But Owner gave out the same watcher results as Ish so the whole thing was shelved.

I went through all of his posts, even to the last day he was scum reading owner.

 

[Ekkologix]

yeah ^ (use bro)

im indie and i killed him

i saw it

doesnt prove anything because you werent masons from the beginning

masoning with people in nonconfirmed ways is literally a scummy ability LMAO

WAIT I REALIZED IT

U WERE IN A PM WITH TWO ICS

AND THEY BOTH DIED

AND U HAVE REASONABLE WAY TO SAY U TARGETED THEM TO MASON WITH THEM

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

u both killed them

nice so u just scum

why dont u step aside and let town do the business yeah

 

[Fujitora]

I have shown it enough in the Game 2 thread, my word should be enough on this. Do you think I hard vouch for someone for no reason? How likely do you think it is that pure innocent Ratchy gets bamboozled by the mean scum pulling the wool over his naive eyes?

Not very.

*Looks at Group 2s graveyard*

I mean…

 

[Didi]

The only person from Group 2 I am willing to axe this DP is you.

Since I have an innocent result on you I'm going to ask you nicely: vote me all you like, but please start scumhunting other people instead of literally using all your posts to talk about me

 

[Saturday]

just want to keep track of this (if I made mistake lmk)

Didn't Vote During Day 1
Ekkologix
hammer
Hero
Iwandesu
RevanReborn

Hasn't Voted During Day 2 (Yet)
Hero
Iwandesu
Legend
Nfcnorth
Rej

 

[Didi]

like we get it, you want me lynched. You don't have to repeat it 3 million times. That doesn't add anything

 

[Lind]

Nope. I’m basically useless rn. Unless you guys scan me and the last person I targeted we get a result on.

You didn’t gain an extra life or anything?

 

[Fujitora]

nice so u just scum

why dont u step aside and let town do the business yeah

Ekko chan, I asked you a question earlier but no response.

Thoughts on Legend/TS and Mich?

 

[Ekkologix]

Yesterday we exclusively focused group 2. No one has quit hunting group 2. Owner is caught in a lie. You don’t go for maybe Purple when you have Red on hand.

NFC kekmalding because we were considering kira as an execution target and completely ignoring that top 3 wagons yesterday were all game 2 players

you hate to see it

 

[Fujitora]

You didn’t gain an extra life or anything?

Same question to you Lindie.

 

[Draekke]

*Looks at Group 2s graveyard*

I mean…

We’re all on the same team (well, both towns are on the same team) now, and it’s pretty damn close, so I think it’s time to retire this attitude lol

 

[nfcnorth]

And no I don't expect you to just blindly agree with me either

 

[Ekkologix]

You're retarded. I've been consistent since the beginning of the phase. I know purple is trying to kill me. What overextension is there? Why are you trying to ignore the fact that I've been extremely towny for the majority of my game and this one and suddenly the stronger team wants to kill me. Then as soon as my make my push, some garbage """""""""verified"""""""""" theory is being pushed.

Ekko himself believes that there is 1-2 red mafia left max. It's low IQ play to tunnel red while you have so many purple. Doesn't even think of didi. There is so much dissonant reasoning here between all the owner pushing I'm actually certain you guys peeked her and she is mafia and you are scared of her.

Naturally, it's in my best interest to make you guys less likely to kill me, so I don't mind keeping her alive for a tomorrow lynch or night kills (pref night, red maf is good at dodging) while using POE info on game 2 townies.

You're actually incredibly dense if you think 3 faction games don't come down to town alternating between targets.

i belive in 2 red 4 purple

owner is a red
JW is a purple

1 red 3 purple left

its not rocket science m8

 

[Fujitora]

We’re all on the same team (well, both towns are on the same team) now, and it’s pretty damn close, so I think it’s time to retire this attitude lol

Ratchet is a dear friend of mine, I am just bantering and he knows it.

 

[Ratchet]

*Looks at Group 2s graveyard*

I mean…

How much of that is really on me here? I was unable to influence this game mechanically since night 1. Look at the first serious list of reads I posted - most of scum in my list. I have made a conscious effort to take a backseat here because I was not confident of my read on the game until Sin flipped. And I didn't want to derail the town.

Like I don't think it's fair to claim I've been bamboozled by any scum here at all this game. We spent most of it purging low activity or scummy slots. Every lynch day 3 on was on point.

 

[SoulKiller]

that's fair

@Traveling Swordsman @Rej @Santí @Juan @Alwaysmind @Hidden @Karma @Saturday @Mich @nfcnorth @Ratchet @SoulKiller

If you go through my posts today, I've made my point why the push on owner about her being a liar is sus. Even if she does flip a killer, it doesn't actually give credit to Ekko and his buddy DrProf as anything unless she specifically flips as a double super killer or something to that effect.

G1 has already been powerwolfed hard enough with at least 10ish of you guys being possible town reads and a plethora of claims or clears coming out.

DrProf is the lynch because it opens the gates to figuring out purple scum. We as a town don't actually win by allying with either faction. Weaken them both, make them vested in targeting each other, and keep scum hunting.

But I'm willing to bet my life on this game that DrProf flips scum.

At this point going for anyone who's name is not Didi or Owner is a complete misplay. You gain shit ton of information from either flip. Switching our attention to people outside of these 2 is the less optimal play here. I think this push of yours is stemmed more from ego than anything else, you wanna prove to yourself that you are right, and we can discuss that option in future DP's. But for this DP, it's simply either Owner or Didi for me. So pick your poison.

 

[nfcnorth]

I have shown it enough in the Game 2 thread, my word should be enough on this. Do you think I hard vouch for someone for no reason? How likely do you think it is that pure innocent Ratchy gets bamboozled by the mean scum pulling the wool over his naive eyes?

Not very.

I don't want you to stick to the old game 2 ratchet that is holding you the exact thing I think it holding you back. Don't ignore game 2 ratchet but at the same time be more than game 2 ratchet.

 

[Lind]

Same question to you Lindie.

I got nothing except a message about 5 red mafia remaining and me being vote silenced.

 

[Fujitora]

How much of that is really on me here? I was unable to influence this game mechanically since night 1. Look at the first serious list of reads I posted - most of scum in my list. I have made a conscious effort to take a backseat here because I was not confident of my read on the game until Sin flipped. And I didn't want to derail the town.

Like I don't think it's fair to claim I've been bamboozled by any scum here at all this game. We spent most of it purging low activity or scummy slots. Every lynch day 3 on was on point.

Last day phase was kinda fked up though, but I think you should trust your instincts more mate.

 

[Fujitora]

I got nothing except a message about 5 red mafia remaining and me being vote silenced.

Thats a lot of reds, not sure I believe it with the lynch stops and redirects at play here + needing scum to be on main wagon to even be able to Lynch them.

 

[Ratchet]

I don't want you to stick to the old game 2 ratchet that is holding you the exact thing I think it holding you back. Don't ignore game 2 ratchet but at the same time be more than game 2 ratchet.

I am trying, but bear in mind I have had a very busy week and my brain mentally is not firing on all cylinders, and played a lot of Mafia in a row, especially this last month. I'm doing the best I can with what I have.

Last day phase was kinda fked up though, but I think you should trust your instincts more mate.

Well, probably. I only have the veneer of confidence, no one self doubts themselves more than I do internally (not even you Prof).

 

[Lind]

Thats a lot of reds, not sure I believe it with the lynch stops and redirects at play here + needing scum to be on main wagon to even be able to Lynch them.

Yeah I don’t believe it now either. I did the math and put some reads a few pages back with the numbers Laix and I got.

It just doesn’t work and I disregarded it pretty quickly. It’s better to work with our initial ratios and who we think are scum now.

 

[nfcnorth]

NFC kekmalding because we were considering kira as an execution target and completely ignoring that top 3 wagons yesterday were all game 2 players

you hate to see it

You realize that neither today or yesterday were healthy yes? Focusing on one game completely is silly

 

[Ekkologix]

is there proof that you and ekko can mason people

has anyone else attested to this claim?

i verify it

i was initially in a chat with prof then we joined vanya/nessos after merge

i automatically join all town chats in the game and they all saw my role

idk why nitty dragged prof with me to the chat but it became a 4 player chat. his role was marked as ??? in the chat but i know it from our other chat. it was blue color and i know his flavor name too.

why do u think nessos and prof were saying to heal me yesterday?


this is more stupid than people pushing DDL and vivo

 

[DrProfessor83]

(not even you Prof).

Hey Ratchet, you dropped this

Spoiler:

 

[Draekke]

i verify it

i was initially in a chat with prof then we joined vanya/nessos after merge

i automatically join all town chats in the game and they all saw my role

idk why nitty dragged prof with me to the chat but it became a 4 player chat. his role was marked as ??? in the chat but i know it from our other chat. it was blue color and i know his flavor name too.

why do u think nessos and prof were saying to heal me yesterday?


this is more stupid than people pushing DDL and vivo

This matches with your questioning of the Santi/Fang “neighbour” fiasco, from group 2 thread. Even more proof that DrProf and now you are heavy town reads.

 

[Draekke]

i verify it

i was initially in a chat with prof then we joined vanya/nessos after merge

i automatically join all town chats in the game and they all saw my role

idk why nitty dragged prof with me to the chat but it became a 4 player chat. his role was marked as ??? in the chat but i know it from our other chat. it was blue color and i know his flavor name too.

why do u think nessos and prof were saying to heal me yesterday?


this is more stupid than people pushing DDL and vivo

Though the DDL push was very different, and nobody really pushed vivo. The dude just stopped playing, and was outed as Hades early D2 by Vanya.

 

[Ratchet]

Hey Ratchet, you dropped this

Spoiler:

I think we're very similar in some ways. I just internalise it all. Also why I am hard on myself when I'm wrong.